What's your Pancreatitis / Pancreas pain like?
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For those of you that have Chronic Pancreatitis (or a strong suspicion that you do) , did/do you notice that your symptoms were any better or worse when:
- You first woke up in the morning?
- Directly after you ate (if so, how long did it take for the pain to start, on first bite or after awhile)?
- Position that you were sitting (straight up vs reclining)?
- Sitting vs laying down?
- Driving?
- Laying on your left side?
- Movement or exercise - did it make it better or worse? When you are moving around, do you notice the pain less?
I'm suspicious I may have early/mild chronic pancreatitis. I have persistent upper left quadrant pain (3/10), and pain in the back almost at the same position as the front. I have a history of slightly elevated lipase, but no doctors want to diagnose anything with the pancreas because ultrasounds & CT scans have been clear. Any answers to the above questions you could give would help me out a lot.
Here are my answers:
You first woke up in the morning?
It's always better for me in the morning. It takes 10-30 minutes to really kick in.
Directly after you ate (if so, how long did it take for the pain to start, on first bite or after awhile)?
For me, it seems to get worse pretty fast after I start eating, and escalating slightly after that.
Position that you were sitting (straight up vs reclining)?
I generally feel much better reclining, and much worse (the worst) sitting straight up or standing straight up.
Sitting vs laying down?
Laying/lying down is better for me.
Driving?
Driving tends to aggravate my pain in the left upper quadrant / abdominal area.
Laying on your left side?
Laying on the left side at night seems to be tender, feels like there is pressure and mild pain all over that side.
Movement or exercise - did it make it better or worse? When you are moving around, do you notice the pain less?
I usually feel pretty good when I am moving or exercising, not sure if that's because my mind is off the pain or because of the movement itself.
Thanks in advance for your help.... Wishing you all the best as you try to find answers and heal!
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Dreckshage John-1
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i wish this was panic and stress I am so sick of being dealt with as a hypochondriac or crazy person. The last 2 months have been bad but the last 2 weeks are getting to be unbearable. I get up feeling a little better but as the day goes by it goes downhill . I am at my wits end!
ashtnren Dreckshage
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i know how you feel the anxiety from this is taking over my life . I have seen two different gastrologist my primary care physician and now a liver/pancreas specialist.my family tells me I need to go to a counselor because I’m obsessive and they think this is in my head. This all started after my son was born so many of my complaints for chalked up to postpartum crazines as much as I want to believe this is gallbladder related my guy keeps telling me it’s my pancreas it is maddening.
John-1 ashtnren
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Have you been checked for any type of internal hernia? How is your stool? Do you have nausea or vomiting?
ashtnren John-1
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No vomitting a little nausea. Would a CT have shown a hernia? My most recent CT was clear (other than showing moderate stool impactation). For the most part my stool is solid (im typically constipated) and when i do go it occasionally floats or is yellow. the weird thing is my abdomen is ALWAYS tender on the right side directly under my rib, the tenderness has recently moved to the left.
ashtnren John-1
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Hi John,
You are basically describing my symptoms over the past 18months. Like you, i have had countless scans/bloodwork all coming back normal. My most recent scan was a CT with/without contrast. I even had a liver/pancreas specialist who works in one of Dallas' most prominent Oncology centers look at the ct and he assured me i had nothing to worry about when it comes to my pancreas (im still skeptical as ive heard CTs can miss early pancreatits). He has scheduled me for a HIDA scan and thinks i have a failing Galbladder. Apparently it can occasionally cause left sided referring pain ? Have you talked to someone about your gallbladder? you said your stool often has bubbles, that could be due to excess gas which can also cause stool to float.
Dreckshage ashtnren
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So there is 3 of us in the same situation. I have been searching for answers for 14 months. I dont have my gall bladder though!
ashtnren Dreckshage
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have you looked into sphincter of oddi dysfunction? I have heard this is a common complication after gallbladder removal.
NixKiwiWolf Dreckshage
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if you've had these symptoms for 14 months then you certainly don't have pancreatic cancer. So that's something. Frankly, you'd be seriously ill or dead.
Dreckshage NixKiwiWolf
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From what I understand, it can take a long time to diagnose. Everything I have experienced started out mild and would get better for awhile. Each time it would flare up it would be worse. At this point, there is no better. For the past 3 weeks things have worsened and are persistent. I have not had a normal bowel movement in 3 weeks, constant indigestion, bloating and gas. When I eat I don't even have a few bites in me when the full feeling under my rib starts, then the pain all the way around to my back. I am seriously to the point where I can't take it anymore. My tests may be normal but this sure isn't. I have an appointment tomorrow with my gastro dr.'s physician assistant because the dr has already written me off after a normal mri/mrcp. If she can't help me I don't know what I will do.
John-1 Dreckshage
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Have you tried any over the counter remedies like probiotics or digestive enzymes to see if that helps your bowel movements?
Have you considered switching doctors (ideally to a teaching hospital or referral center that deals with more complicated cases) for a 2nd opinion, going to Mayo Clinic or something like that?
Dreckshage John-1
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Yes, tried them all. I have seen 2 gastro doctors among many other.
NixKiwiWolf Dreckshage
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Yes, PC can take a while to diagnose but not 2 years! You may well have developed something recently but I would be very surprised if its PC, particularly as your tests have all been clear and you've been seen so many times. Have you been tested for H.pylori or SIBO? Both of which ate easily treated and can cause a lot of gastric issues. I think you need to speak to a professional counsellor as well, even if you are physically ill, as you seem to be in a vicious circle that has taken over your life. Excessive worrying won't change whether you get a serious illness or not, it'll just make your life miserable and you sound like you need the mental tools to help you deal with your issues, both physical and mental. I don't think forums like these do you any good, just feed your anxiety.
John-1 Dreckshage
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Have you been tested for SIBO (Small Intestinal Bacterial Overgrowth)?
Have you had a regular Endoscopy (EGD) or Colonoscopy?
Have you had a barium swallow test? Have you had chest x-rays?
Have you had a pH monitor to test esophageal pH?
Dreckshage NixKiwiWolf
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i have a counselor and a pshychiatrist. Believe me when I say I have tried everything. It hasn't been 2 years, it has been 14 months. My family has witnessed all of this. My symptoms unfortunately are very real.
NixKiwiWolf Dreckshage
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Then I have no mote suggestions. 14 months of symptoms would make it extremely unlikely to be PC as once the symptoms are regular like you say they are, it has a good grip on you and would be obvious in tests. I'm sure your symptoms are real and very distressing for you but if your doctors can't find anything physically wrong with you then you're going to have to explore other avenues. Have you tried cannabis oil? That would relax you and probably help with pain as well.
Dreckshage NixKiwiWolf
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No, I haven't. I have been looking into it. I had a shot from pain management today. I feel like I am running in circles.
I really appreciate all the ideas and input you have helped me with.
John-1 Dreckshage
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What kind of shot did you have? What were they trying to accomplish?
Dreckshage John-1
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I think they call it a trigger injection. Supposedly, this is supposed to help the rib pain that they are saying is muscularskeletal. Saw the second gastro Dr. again today and after a year she is blaming IBS. I did have a ca19-9 , it was normal at 9.
John-1 Dreckshage
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Were they able to localize the pain to a single point before doing the injection? When they pushed on that point did it reproduce your pain?
Dreckshage John-1
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They use ultrasound to make sure they place the injection and med in the right place. When the meds were injected it went into the area but tonight I have been miserable. hope it works!
John-1 Dreckshage
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How's it working out for you?
Dreckshage John-1
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Knock on wood, it has been better today. I pray that the pain is gone for at least a little while. started new stomach medicine and hope I will see improvement with it. I am always afraid to get my hopes up.
John-1 Dreckshage
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That's great! Did you know that a lot of abdominal pain that people go to GI docs for is really from the abdominal wall? I've read that something like 30% of visits to GI docs can be for this.
What probiotic are you taking (if any)? If this injection fixes the pain, you might need something to normalize any GI upset you might have.
ashtnren Dreckshage
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Just an update. My HIDA Scan showed gallbladder borderline so doc doesnt think thats it. They scheduled an EUS at my urging. Should finally figure out if this is CP or not within the next 2wks!
John-1 ashtnren
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@ashtnren Have you had a colonoscopy?
cheryl1955 Dreckshage
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you might have a stone or something wrong with your bile duct. Did you say you had your gallbladder out?