What should men eat ??? Prostate cancer

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For years my wife and I avoided eggs due to their bad rep of raising cholesterol. We were so happy when eggs were exonerated last year of the bad rep so we embarked on 'an egg a day program'. We love eggs because they taste good, easy to prepare, and are full of nutrients. We were even happier when our blood test results this year showed that our bad LDL cholesterol and triglycerides went down and our good HDL cholesterol went up significantly. What a vindication. Then darn it, I ran across an article associating egg consumption with prostate cancer.

As I continued my search of wisdom, articles after articles mentioning that not just eggs, chicken (our daily consumption), turkey, red meat (of course, no surprise here), and even fish (OMG), and what else ... increase risk of prostate cancer.

I feel a sense of profound unfairness here. What can men eat then? We men practically can not eat anything other than a vegetarian diet. Just because of an organ that some of us may not even want ? smile What should we do ? Ignore the warnings and eat what we want, knowing that we all eventually get prostate cancer anyway ? Or avoid all organ foods and go on a more costly vegetarian diet, risking some possible nutrient deficiencies ? Or just go ahead and remove the prostate ? Or the testicles ? Would the removal guarantee no future prostate cancer ?

Also, should we believe the accuracies of those studies ? Anyone with a personal story that would confirm or disavow them ? Would this thread change what you eat ?

Hank

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    Google Dr Jane Plant and see what she had to say on the subject of diet and PCa and Breast Cancer.

    I know many men who are living with PCa who may have been dead years ago if they'd not followed her advice.

    The bottom line is remove all dairy products from your diet along with, red meat and processed meats.

    The alternatives i.e. soya milk, soya spreads, white meat and fish are part of my diet and have been for over 11 years and my Gleason 6 PCa just sits there doing nothing.  I have no wish to disturb its slumbers by returning to a diet full of growth hormones.

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      " I know many men who are living with PCa who may have been dead years ago if they'd not followed her advice"

      How many do you know? What figures do you have to prove it ?

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      I'm not an academic researcher, all I do is share my own personal experiences on here.

      I have been a member of the PCUK forum since late 2005 and until a few years ago I used to attend a yearly gathering of up to 40 members and their partners and during this ostensibly social gathering we would share our experiences of treatment regimes and dietary/lifestyle changes made following diagnosis and the overwhelming consensus was that these changes could change the prognosis of an individuals condition.  Of course various types of treatment would be undertaken by many of these men and some would opt for AS but one thing that was apparent was that those men that relied on treatment alone and remained overweight, stuck to any unhealthy diet and took little or no exercise would eventually be missing from our yearly gatherings because they had died whereas, those that saw the benefits of making lifestyle changes continued to attend.  I'm not saying that no one who made these changes died but if I were to put a figure on it I would say 1 in 6 would eventually sucumb but not for want of trying to beat the odds and many would easily double or treble the initial prognosis timescale they were given at diagnosis.

      Many of us chose to adapt the Jane Plant diet to suit our individual circumstances and some followed it religiously and when we had the pleasure of meeting Jane at one of our gatherings some years ago we discussed this with her and she was of the opinion that if we followed the basic tenet of her diet i.e. non-dairy and no red meat we would still be greatly improving our chances long term survival.

      Sorry I can't give you exact figures for how many I now and even if I did how would I prove it, not by naming them that's for sure.

      Anyway, that's my experience and you can either accept it as being the truth or not but bear in mind I only come on here to let others now of my experiences not offer advice and it is up to the individual reader to decide on what they do with the information I provide.  No one is forcing them to follow it and I would hope they thoroughly research the issue of diet and PCa via the many learned papers that have been written on the subject before embarking on anything that could affect the outcome of their own PCa prognosis.

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    Did you find the link to milk?

     

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      Do you mean Dr Plant theory of dairy products causing lots of cancer ? Yes, I looked it up. There are many disputes though. It is why personal account like rogcal is important. Hank
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      Doctor Plant? Is his name for real?

      It was first written on in a Canadian medical journal  many years ago. It was resurrected again recently and featured in the UK press.

       

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      I did and googling her name came up with a lot including the first one a Youtube video headed.

       Do women in China not get cancer and is a non-dairy diet a cure for it?

      It's an old story apparently making new rounds on Facebook and elsewhere: an article titled "Why Women in China Don't Get Breast Cancer".

      It tells the story of British geochemist Dr. Jane Plant, who battled - and purportedly defeated - cancer eight times. So the story goes, Plant discovered and claimed that women in China don't contract breast cancer, and that her success overcoming the disease was because she eliminated dairy products from her diet.

      Whether Plant meant to imply that there is literally no incidents of breast cancer among women in China or not isn't clear. But we consulted a few well-known resources, starting with the Susan G. Komen website, which indicates that approximately 18 of every 100,000 in "Eastern Asia" contract breast cancer, compared to roughly 92 of 100,000 in North America. 

      By those statistics the proportion is a lopsided five-to-one difference, but clearly indicates incidents of breast cancer in eastern Asia, although it goes short of specifying how many occur in China. 

      Another source is the U.S. National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health. Its statistics, dating from 2008, indicate an approximate two-to-one ratio of breast cancer frequency comparing China to the United States, respectively, but like the Susan G. Komen statistics, don't suggest a non-existence of breast cancer in China.

      Therefore, we verify the claim that women in China don't get breast cancer to be false.

      Regarding the claim that eliminating dairy products can prevent or cure breast cancer, there are ongoing debates about the role of diet and specific foods in the rate of various illnesses and diseases. First Coast News consulted Dr. Shahla Masood, Medical Director at University of Florida Health Breast Center.

      "Even though there are anecdotal incidents here and there, there is no scientific evidence, to date, to try to really associate the use of dairy products to development of breast cancer," Masood began, "or, for that matter, shrinking the breast cancer."  Masood insists there are too many variables, including genetics and socioeconomics, to simply point to one factor. 

      "It is not possible to try to just find one element to be responsible for development of breast cancer," she said.

       

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      Thanks Derek for chiming in the other side of the story. Personally, I avoid dairy products due to the gas issues they gave me, which is bad for BPH. A slice of cheese and a little creamer to go with my coffee now and then is all I can take. Hank
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      Why is gas bad for BPH? My GP is against milk as he says that it makes the stomach more acid. If my wife wakens up with heartburn she drinks some milk.
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      Released gas is OK but trapped gas, which occurs often with constipation, is bad. It takes up space in the colon cavity and can push onto the prostate and the urethra, causing BPH symptoms of low flow, urgenncy, and even retention. Milk is very acidic. Hank

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