Will this ever end!
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After three visits to the ER with horrible pain and three ultrasounds, three CT’s w/ contrast later with no findings!
During my 3rd visit I suggested can this be shingles? I only had a small cluster of tiny blisters that were itchy on my lower back. The doctor then confirmed it. They sent me home with a prescription for acyclovir. A week had passed before properly diagnosed! The pain was just unbearable!!! I was then prescribed gabapentin which is a nerve blocker. That has been my saving grace. I was only on the acyclovir for less than 2 weeks. The doctor stated it would not be beneficial to continue taking it. Five weeks later and a new rash has appeared and the pain has not gone away! I’m so beyond desperate and wondering when will this nightmare end! Help!
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sheila24138 Believe2128
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Believe2128 sheila24138
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sheila24138 Believe2128
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joseph34465 Believe2128
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Believe, I believe you. Sorry your having to go through this. I'm not a doctor but I had Shingles over a year ago and still remember the pain at first. I had it on my forehead and left scalp. Unfortunately I have post nerve pain thats in my eyebrow and scalp that no one is able to help me with. You have to be careful with any depression you might get and if you do you need to take something for it. Hang in there it's only temporary.
Believe2128 joseph34465
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andrea43257 Believe2128
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Believe2128 andrea43257
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Hi Andrea,
Thank you for your advice and so sorry you have been through so much! I'm finding out that some doctors know very little about shingles. I was told once you get shingles you won't get it again???? Confused???? I have began to do my own research and so grateful a friend told me about this forum. Wishing you continued good health!
Be well!
beth97678 Believe2128
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It's the worst pain I've ever had too-and I cannot imagine having it anywhere on the head.My heart goes out to anyone who's had to suffer that.Mine was from rhe spine all the way round to the front mid chest,following the bra line and extending into my L breast.Apart from the exquisite pain of that was the constricting nature of the pain around my chest,as I have COPD and couldn't take a breath .I was in hospital writhing and whimpering because the nurse wouldn't give me my Pregabalin(newer version of Gabapentin) half an hour early.It was like a miracle every time.20 mins after taking it ,the pain was bearable.I am still taking it ,two weeks before christmas,because I'm left with a gnawing and itch that is quite indescribeable,but liveable -with.The dose I reduced from 100mg 3 times a day ,to 50 mg,twice a day,and as the virus finally peters out ,I'll wean myself off the drug slowly.(the virus travelled from the spine and cleared from the spine.The last bit is the bust .I really don't know how you have been working through this.I wouldn't say that anyone could,or should.Rest is so important.I've never nodded off so much.I certainly wouldn't have driven anywhere distant,and I love driving.The L-Lysine is wonderful too,in recuperating.It can fade any irritation within haalf an hour too.I've got a huge bottle online and very glad I did.It's good to read other posts-detailing what other people have found helpful-and other advice-especially the posts written by Merry,who is a nurse practitioner,and has also suffered with this blasted virus.She helped me a lot .I'm grateful to everyone on this forum,as the docs don;t seem to have much idea about the herpes virus in general ,or shingles in particular.Take some time off if you can,Your body needs rest-and teaching is also stressful,which allows this virus to damage your nerves further.Good luck ,and try not to worry .
X Beth
ps: I think Merry syggested Lidocaine with aloe vera
Believe2128 beth97678
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Hi Beth!
I actually took your advice and stay home from work today to REST. I also had the pain radiating from the front of my chest and all the way back by my lower spine. The pain is more like a burning pain right now and so tender to touch. I'm trying to stay positive that this nightmare will end. May first horrible pain started Nov. 9 the and here I am still dealing with it. The pain is now more tolerable. Some days ate better than others. Wishing you the best!
Be well!
babs99203 Believe2128
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I'm so sorry Believe, yours is a common nightmare as there's a lot of misinformation about shingles. I had a similar story (even tho I diagnosed it in my husband and my father). I had the pain in my back and chest area. The virus is re-activated from the chicken pox in a nerve. The pain "generally" follows that path, but as nerves get inflamed the pain can also come from the opposite side or areas near it. I had maybe two tiny spots on my back and two weeks later four tiny spots on my lower left breast. The pain appeared, was miserable for one evening, then disappeared until weeks later. Two weeks after the initial pain is when I found the spots on my breast. I was told as I had no pain now, it couldn't be shingles. I did have some discomfort but attributed it to other things. A week after that, the pain was worse and I got the diagnosis. It was at this point when the pain was unbearable. That was a year ago. I now have PHN, which is pain which lingers due to nerve damage from shingles.
I've learned a lot here, but I also had a background as a medical secretary which has helped me. Here's what I can tell you. The Gab will help, but it needs to be slowly increased to get the optimal effect of pain relief. It's a drug that's also used for seizures so the side effects can be VERY difficult to deal with. You may end up with choosing either them or the pain. HOWEVER, the longer you have severe pain, the higher your risk of developing PHN. Generally, it's found more often in people over 60 (I was 61). So do as much as possible to take care of yourself!
1) Your entire body is dealing with this virus, so you may feel nauseous, have headaches and extreme fatigue.
2) The pain may feel generalized, but depending where the rash was or the most extreme pain, that's the nerve affected. It may help to look at anatomy drawings. Do as much to avoid aggravating that nerve as possible.
Where is your pain? Is it back/chest, down a leg or arm? If back/chest, avoid lifting, leaning, bending etc.
3) Rest, rest, rest. Do NOT try and power thru this. It will likely last 4-8 weeks, as like me, you didn't get the anti-virals. The more you can sleep the better and don't feel guilty for it. It's an invisible condition for people like you and me. Try and distract yourself with anything that helps, watch movies, read, stroke your pet. Anything that can give your mind respite from the worst discomfort. IT WILL GET BETTER!
4) My regimen is, Gabapentin 3 times a day, extra-strength Tylenol 3 times a day, Aspercreme with 4%Lidocaine pain cream (OTC) 3 times a day. a prescription NSAID I've been on for years for another condition. Some research shows using and NSAID in addition to Gab enhances the pain-relieving effect. At my worst, the Tylenol and Aspercreme were 4 times a day, which was pushing it, dosage wise. You can also use the Aspercreme patches, but they're expensive and can only be used for 12 hours. I found the roller-ball works easiest and is most cost-effective as you don't use as much.
Unfortunately, this IS the new normal for you for a while. It can take a bit to accept this, hey I didn't either! It took me three months to realize I had PHN, when I clearly did.
Did you tell your doctor about the new rash? Is it in the same area or a different area? This is very difficult as it could be a new case of shingles or a reaction to something else. If it were me, I'd strongly encourage the doctor to give me the anti-virals. They have to be given in the first 72 hours after the "symptoms". This danged illness has SO many twists and variations to it, that's one reason why there's so little research and so much misunderstanding. I'd err on the side of taking the meds.
Believe2128 babs99203
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Hi babs,
Thank you for all the information! My pain now is more like a burning sensation and very tender to touch. On November 9th four tiny blisters appeared on my lower back and that was it, but the pain was unbearable and radiated to the front right under my rib cage. I get anxiety just thinking about it! Never in my life did I ever experience such terrible pain! I went to the doctors this Tuesday and she said I also had PHN and referred me to a neurologist. I'm presenting still taking gabapetin 300mg 3x a day and the pain is manageable. I'm also concerned about all the side effects. I will also continue to educate myself about this monster! Hoping you are feeding better!
Be well!
Merry19451 Believe2128
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Dear Believe,
I am so sorry you are going through this nightmare!
I would request a different antiviral, Famciclovir 500 mg three times daily for 10 days. It is a newer drug with less resistance and better efficacy to the Varicella virus.
I would also ask for an Opioid analgesic as Shingles is one of the most painful afflictions of mankind. Physicians have stopped prescribing Opioids due to the overdoses, but people who have agonizing pain from Shingles need the Oxycodone during the acute episodes.
I would only rest and sleep during this episode as any activity and work increases the pain.
Please have your Physician check your Vitamin D level. Low levels of Vitamin D play havoc with your immunity and can cause recurrent Herpes Zoster-Shingles.
Also, Google High Lysine Low Arginine Diet and Herpes Zoster-Shingles. Following this diet and being on Vitamin D3 have changed my life.
I am a Nurse Practitioner in the States and have had Herpes Zoster-Shingles in my right ear every three to five weeks for the past twenty-one years and twice in my right eye.
Since following the diet and taking the correct dose of Vitamin D3 for approximately 18 months, I haven't had Herpes Zoster-Shingles for almost one year. My Vitamin D level was 14- very low before.
Best wishes
Merry Juliana
Believe2128 Merry19451
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Hi Merry,
Thank you for all the valuable information! I was just at the doctors this past Tuesday to start weening me off the gabapetin 300mg 3 x a day. I asked my doctor if I can get a reoccurrence of shingles and she responded no. Left me confused??? I'm now experiencing more of a burning pain and very tender to touch. Some days are more manageable then others. She also told me I had PHN since I was still experiencing pain and reffered me to a neurologist.This nightmare began Nov. 9th! I will definitely look into my vitamin D levels because they have been low in the past. I also have asthma and urticaria. Just wondering if there are any connections! My immune system seems to be weak. Not sure what doctor to go see to discuss all these issues. Overwhelmed and just want to feel healthy again. Oh forgot to mention I'm also dealing with a broken toe. Thank you again for the information and so glad you are doing much better!!!
Be well!!!
babs99203 Believe2128
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Wow, you're dealing with a lot, I'm so sorry. Why is she "weaning you off Gab?" You're actually on a fairly low dose. As I said, it takes a bit for the body to adjust to it. My doctor raised mine on a weekly basis. As I said, the side effects can be miserable and you have to taper off it. BUT it is one of the only drugs that can modify the pain of shingles or PHN. Lyrica (pregabapentin) works in a similar way, is she switching you to that? Both have good and bad components. If the gab was helping a bit with the pain, why eliminate it? This is hard. As you know a lot of doctors don't know much about the condition or treating it. If you're lucky enough to find a good one (I did, my GP has had many patients with it), they should know the basics of treatment that you've read here.
Are you using a pain cream or other meds too? Yes, education is very important, but make sure it's good quality. In my research the past year, I found this website to be one of the best, most accurate and most supportive. Did you read the info on here regarding shingles or just come to the forum? I didn't see the info from the doctor posted until months later, unfortunately. Hang in there, we're here for you.
Believe2128 babs99203
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I’m actually new to the forum. A friend recommended it to me just a few days ago. Since my doctor suggested to see a neurologist she kept me on the same gabapentin dose for now. Trying so hard to stay positive but it’s getting harder and harder. You are so right about some doctor having little or incorrect information about shingles. Thanks again for your support!!! It does really helps!
joseph34465 Believe2128
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Believe2128 joseph34465
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I was actually referring to this forum. It’s been so supportive. Thank you!
babs99203 Believe2128
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joseph34465 Believe2128
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Ya I know I'm glad I found it also.
babs99203 joseph34465
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I try and be active here, as I think every post I do pays it forward to those who helped me. My first post ever was at about 2:00 in the morning, after walking the floor, sobbing from the pain, I went online and found this forum. As I've mentioned I have a medical secretary background so it helps me sort thru good and bad info and this website and people like Merry, Charlie etc. are a Godsend.