Zeiss AT Lara edof (like Symfoni) implant
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Hi there
Yesterday I had the Zeiss At Lara implanted i my dominant eye, in about 5 weeks the other eye will be done.
I am born with cataracts in both eyes, so I have never had good vision, so my experience might be different than others that chooses this lens.
For me the result is absolutely fantastic!
I am almost embarrassed to tell about it in this forum, because I have seen so many people having big problems with their lenses, and I feel so sorry for those who have these problems, but for me this lens have invited me into a world I have never been in before, I really feel that I have landed on another planet in a science fiction movie.
Everything about my vision have changed so much, almost kind of psychedelic, but in a good way off course.
Contrast is unbelievable, in the sunlight I have never before been able to see what is in the shadows, now I see everything.
Colors are almost exploding, all colors are so bright and deep, even black is more black.
My perception of depth is very different, it feels like I have been living in 2D and now it has become 3D.
I see details I have never seen before, some of them needs a little time to get used to, like grey hair and dust, that suddenly was present after the surgery 😃
Also my hands have become very ugly i think, but off course it is a part of the package.
My distance vision is great, it is very clear 20/25 and still improving by the hour (before it was 20/40 on a good day in the right lighting), reading vision is not quite there being a little blurry, and off course real reading vision is not to be expected from the At Lara, but I can read J3 without glasses, and with cheap reading glasses J1 is razor sharp.
I have never had real reading vision like this before, with or without glasses, all my life I have read papers by making a funnel with my fingers and looking though the hole between the fingers reading one word at a time.
It is not even 24 hours since surgery, so I guess many things might still change.
On pc screen with black background and clear white text (that I have used all my life because of the cataracts) there is a bit of glare around white text, but I see great anyway, and I expect it to go away - but it does not really bother me that much if it stays.
Other than that, I have not noticed any side effects during daylight.
I took a walk yesterday when it was dark, about 8 hours after surgery, so I guess it can change a lot.
Around lights that are near to me there was a little bit of glare, lights that was a bit further away had a little bit of starburst, lights even further away had nothing.
But the glare and starburst are kind of vague, and I can still easily see the lamp that are lighting through the glare/starburst, and none of it is bothersome at all.
Apart from that, night vision is pretty fantastic, I never new that other people can see this much in the dark, I almost felt like they had giving me the eye from a cat or something 😃
With just a little bit of streetlights I could see the entire road and all the details on the road, just like it was not really dark, even that it was, so I will have no trouble at all driving or whatever in the nighttime.
For me this At Lara lens feels like the perfect choice, I feel very lucky, the contrast sensitivity/loss is similar to monofocals, but still it can make up to +2, so you can get by on a daily basis without reading glasses, but I guess if you are a bookworm, and read a lot on a daily basis, you might find the reading ability lacking a little without glasses.
Anyway, that was my store, I really can not wait with the second eye, but Zeiss can not deliver the lens before, it is being made to my measurements, so I guess I just must be patient 😃
Cheers
Christian
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Sue.An2 Guest
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very happy for your results. It must be life changing.
Guest Sue.An2
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Hi Sue
Thanks, and yes it is, it has been a wild ride the last couple of days, nothing is like it was before 😃
When I look through my right eye that still have cataracts, already now I can almost not belive how I have been able to live like that for 45 years 😃
Anyway, I also wanted to thank you for your great advise about having a wait between surgeries, when I had a little bit of doubt about the trifocal and the contrast loss it have.
I talked with the surgeon about it before the first surgery, and he have ordered a Lara lens from Zeiss as well, so he will have both the Lara and Lisa available for my right eye, and then we have booked another date for surgery in 5 weeks from now, and then I can choose lens at the day of the surgery.
But I am now almost sure that I will go for the Lara in the second eye as well, now that I have tried how well it works for me in my dominant eye, so I am very thankful for your advice.
Cheers
Christian
Sue.An2 Guest
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You're welcome Christian. My doctor told me there is an added benefit to having both eyes implanted with 2nd Symfony (we didn't and still don't have atLARA or atLISA here in Canada or I would have opted for LARA. But I did find reading better when 2nd Symfony was implanted. My reading was not even tested after first surgery - just tested but of course tested it myself at home with a printout of snellen chart.
Good you have some time between surgeries to think about it and also to allow time for healing. As the lens settles into place it can change prescription by .25 diopter either way.
I am on holiday in UK but been following progress - very very pleased for you. Although you might wonder why you waited this long it is a good time for this surgery with the lens options there are today.
soks Guest
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hi Danish Viking
how old are you and at what age were you told you wee born with cataracts?
Guest soks
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Hi
I am 45, it was discovered when I started in school age 6.
Back then the cataract surgery was far more brutal than today, so surgeons advised my mother to wait, if it was possible.
And then one year after another passes, you know what you have, you do not know what you are going to get 😃
But with the lenses that are available now, it seemed to be the right time to get it done, presbyopia was starting to have effect as well.
I was just out driving right now in the dark, night vision is incredibel now, it is almost like it is not really dark compared to before.
soks Guest
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normally they take the cataracts out in children to prevent amblyopia. your cataract may not have been in the line of sight and your lens may have been compensating for it.
r u planning to get your other iol a little myopic?
and was this non toric and the other will be toric?
i think the darkness issue is mainly indoors rather than outdoors. for example near reading is difficult for me in lower light than brighter light.
Guest soks
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Well, my cataracts was/is quite severe, and is placed right in the middle of the lens.
Each time I visited a new eye doctor through the years for regular checks, they almost could not believe that I was able to see anything through the lens, but I think the brain has been compensating form the start.
They have never before been able to measure my eyes or take a picture of the retinas because of the cataracts, so surgery would always had been a guessing game, but number 4 private eye clinic I visited this summer could both take measurements and pictures, I guess they must have slightly better hardware than the others.
The eye clinic is a part of a German network, with all the latest gear from Zeiss.
Today they check children for cataracts when they are 5 weeks here in Denmark, even though only 15-20 children are born with cataracts each year, but back then they did not check children for cataracts.
Both my lenses are toric, one of them quite a lot, that is why the lens was not in stock and I have to wait for it.
I have not talked with the surgeon about minimonovision, so I assume he have ordered the lens plano, and that is really what I prefer.
The Lara can make +2, and it seems to be sufficient for me, i read better now than I ever have done before.
I can read enough to get by on a daily basis without glasses, and I think it will even get a little bit better when the second eye is done. I do not have reading vision at all on the eye that still have the natural lens, so I am almost only reading on the one eye with the Lara.
In fact it feels like the reading vision gets better day by day since surgery, and I really feel I have no trouble in low lighting, it was much more difficult before, but I guess everything is relative like Einstein said, I guess I am easy to please 😃
soks Guest
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i am guessing the cataract may not have been significant in the vision system formative years. otherwise it results in amblyopia with nerves not developing. i have a child who is working through this issue.
zeiss iol master is indeed the most accurate for measurements.
your surgeon will order iol with adjacent powers if he is using the ORA. but if you have improved to better than J3 then that may not be necessary.
Guest soks
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Sorry to hear about your child, that must be tuff for all of you.
I know about the issues with cataracts from birth, for the same reason I have always been told, that I would probably never get real good vision, even if I had the surgery done, that is also one the reasons I have waited so many years.
The surgeons words were, that he thought I should get relative good vision on both eyes from surgery, but he could not promise anything, and I took that deal, at least he has faith 😃
I would have loved the ORA, but the use of ORA demand that the eye clinic have a lot of lenses in their own stock, so they can choose the right lens during surgery, and in my case, when the lens is being made to specs with 5 weeks delay, I guess the Ora is not an option for me.
On Zeiss website they say, that with all the variations there are on their lenses, each type of lens can be delivered with 2000 different specs, I guess no eye clinic have these many lenses in stock, so I guess Ora is for people who are more mainstream than me 😃
Gaurav18 Guest
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also, how many glasses you use sir?
Guest Gaurav18
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It is now one week since my surgery, and I have only had to put on reading glasses two times in that week for reading small print, i spend most of the day on the pc without glasses.
I really do not think about glasses at all, I never bring glasses with me when I am out of the office or not at home.
I am sure your vision will clear up, and you will be happy with the Symfony lens, even though I understand your worries, I would be nervous in your situation to.
Outcome like mine, where the vision is almost perfect from start are rare, they were impressed at the eye clinic when I was there for check up the day after surgery, they are not used to see that good vision so early after surgery.
They took an eye test day after surgery, and said "You vision is already improved a lot compared to before the surgery" I guess this means they are used to people sometimes are seeing worse right after surgery, so I do not think your outcome is uncommon - in any case, I think and hope it will turn out great with your Symfony 😃