zopiclone addiction

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Hi, I am glad to have found this group!

I started taking Zopiclone over 3 years ago, initially as I travelled quite a bit and found it difficult to sleep often. Then in Jan 2011 I was in the US for a week, and took a 7.5mg tab every night. I can remember feeling much more calm and relaxed; when I returned I did not take any for a few weeks but then had some more travel lined up. Foolishly instead of going to my GP I found a place on the internet where you coould buy them - and that's how it got started. After a while I found I needed one during the day to 'calm me down', now after 3 years I take about 4-5 7.5mg tabs a day; usually after 6 hours I'm craving another.

I saw my GP about it a while back but he just suggested trying to switch gradually to half strength ones, but the sleeplessness and anxiety meant I couldn't seem to do that.

Today I learned that Zopiclone is to be come scheduled on 10th June and my supplier won't sell it in the UK any more. I guess its the kick I need to give up this horrid drug - I hate the side effects it has - so have booked in to see the GP soon. I am so nervous about withdrawal though.

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    Hi Keith ,sorry to hear you are having problems with zopiclone.I was addicted to this drug for over 5 years and became very ill on it resulting in going into tolerance withdrawal when i wasnt even withdrawing.I had terrible withdrawel symtoms and o ly thing that helped was to take more zopiclone.Anyway to cut a long story short i didcome off them in the end but only with the help of an organisation that deals with tranquil addiction.I had to withdrdraw by switching over to diazepam and cutting slowly.I could not have done this without the telephone advice and support of this voluntary organisation.Its been 3 years since i came off this drug but never thought i would.If you want any more advice on this feel free to contact me.Regards Anita
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      Hi Anita, thanks for your reply. I've booked to see the doctor on Monday but I'd be interested in any details of what organisation helped you. If you can PM me the details I would appreciate it. This last week has been really tough - little sleep in the night despite the Z's, and I have been travelling for work so have felt tired all the time. I really want my life back and never want to touch this stuff again... Thanks, Keith
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      Hi Keith org i was telling you about is CITA Councel for involuntary tranquiliser addiction , if you speak to them they will tell you exactly the path to take, docs will just probably just pass you off with something just as bad as zopiclone so might be an idea to speak to them first so you can tell the doc exactly what they advise.When you ring you usually get answerphone but they will ring you straight back
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      Their number is 015329320102 or 01514749626.Good luck let me know how you get on, Anita
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      Hi Anita--CITA sounds like a godsend.  As far as i can tell, its only in the UK, not sure if i can call their number from the US, i will try.  I was on 27mg a night of zolpidem and 7.5mg a night of zopiclone. i tapered off the zopiclone, it took me about two months, it was prettty easy  becaue i was still taking plenty of zolpidem.  Took my last zopiclone dose on February 26.  I recently heard from a medical social worker that zopiclone may be taken off the market in the US because of research showing that they cause serious bizarre side effects including hallucinations.  I believe these research findings probably also explain why new restrictions are starting to be implemented in the UK.  Meanwhile, i still need to get off the zolpidem.  I went to a doctor who is an addiction medicine specialist. He advised me to switch my 27mg zolpidem for 10mg diazapam, so i did what he said, just stopped the zolpidem and started the diazapam.  The diazapam was much better--instead of having to take it 2X per night becuase so short acting, with diazapam i would just take it once an sleep through the night. But the price i had to pay for that was a terrible all day long hangover.  I was eager to taper off the diazapam. Under doctor's supervision, i cut from 10mg to 9mg and then from 9mg to 8mg. Every 4 days, except the first which was 7 days.  I would have difficulty sleeping the first night after cutting down but then things would settle and i would sleep OK and without the big hangover. But when i went to 7mg, i was not able to get to sleep after 3 days, the diazapam wasn't working, i was taking some zolpidem to get some sleep. i talked to the doctor and went back up to 8mg diazapam. So that's where i am now, it's working fine.  But i really need to get off of diazapam, it has an extremely long half life and is accumulating in my body faster than i can eliminate it.  I am tempted to go off it cold turkey and just ride out the withdrawals.  I wish i could call CITA and get some advice from them. I will try that.  i don't think i've ever placed an overseas call before but it's worth a try.  How long did it take you to get off diazapam?  What dosage did you start at when you began tapering?   How much zopiclone were you taaking?  Big congratulations that you got off it.  
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      Hi jaw444, Sorry when i gave you number thought you were in UK but sure you can ring them from US i remember the lady at CITA that was helping me saying she had call from Japan .If you find out how you dial them from US ,if you cant get back to me and see if i can .When i stopped the zopiclone i just abruptly stopped and straight on to diaz i had been taking zop 7.5 at night and had started taking in day so i knew wasnt right and had to stop this ,when zop started to wear off was horrendous .Anyway i cannot remember what the equivilant dose of diaz 
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      was but i remember that was advised to cut only half mg every two weeks i know this doesnt sound a lot but was told this cut was right for me .Everyone is different and i dont know what they will advise you but looking at how much you are cutting i would say that is too much at a time.That is how people end up increasing doses as often doing to quickly dosent work.I hope you can get through to CITA as i know they will help you.Good luck get back to me if i can help more.There is also the Ashdown Manuel Supplment you can look up and download sure this will help too.Regards Anita
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      Anita--thanks for the info, i will report back on efforts to reach CITA.  I did the same thing with the zolpidem--i just stopped taking it overnight and started taking 10mg diazapam.  While compared to the 27mg zolpidem i was taking, 10mg diazapam was not equivalent, diazapam was just strong for me, it hit me really strong and knocked me out, for the whole night, i never woke up to pee or anything. So different from zolpidem with its 2 or 3 hour half life.  Do you remember if you had much difficulty tapering down and off the diazapam?  Do you remember about how long it took?   
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      Jaw 444, when i first stopped zop it wasnt easy for first few weeks as body has to adjust to change.I remember i kept ringing CITA as was so hard at times but i just perservered as i knew i had no choice if i wanted to get life back.I think i maybe did go on too low a dose of diaz when switched thats why struggled.I was determined though and was angry at myself for getting addicted to these pills in the first place i did not realise the damage they do.They were given to me by GP on repeat prescription for 5 years which should never have happened. Be strong you will do and the difference you will feel off these will be tremendous
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      Hi Anita, thank you so much. I will give them a call on Monday morning. I'm a bit worried that my doctor will not be very helpful - I don't know if he will prescribe me e.g. diazepam to cross over to or anything else for that matter. It's only a village practise so I doubt he's had any experience of this before. Oh well, more fool me for getting into this mess in the first place.
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    Hi Keith.  I had been taking Zopiclone for about 15 years, then my gp called me in for a review and said i cant have any more. When i said i was anxious about giving them up, she put me on Mitrazapine, an anti-depressant.  They are difinitely tightening up on the Zops, probably because they now realize that  poeople like us have been using them inappropriately.  I dont think incould nhave taken them during the day. Your gp will probably ofer you a similar drug to come off them. The Mitrazapine make me feel drowsy during the day and dont always work at night to put me to sleep, but better than nothing.  Hope you get on ok.
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      Hi Vivien, I've only been taking them for about 3 years, but made the mstake of thinking they were like painkillers. They defintely are not. I'll see what the doc says. I've heard of mitrazapine, I wonder if it would work for me. Others say transfer to diazepam and slowly lower the dose of that as its much longer active (I really hate the withdrawal feelings you get on Z's after a few hours). I'm not so worried about not sleeping, compared to feeling generally twitchy/panicky/horrid when the effects of the Z's wear off.
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    Hi Keith

    I suspect at least one reason this drug will unavailable is because it's been found to be carcinogenic. This is from the wikipedia article on zopiclone:

    "...Carcinogenicity[edit]

    A recent analysis of both U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) data and clinical trial data shows that nonbenzodiazepine Z-drugs at prescribed doses cause an increased risk of developing cancer in humans. There have been 15 epidemiological studies, which have shown that hypnotic drugs cause increased mortality, mainly due to increased cancer deaths. The cancers included those of the brain, lung, bowel, breast, and bladder. One possible explanation for the increased cancer deaths is that the Z-drugs have an adverse effect on the immune system. The fact that clinical trial subjects taking other Z-drugs (zolpidem, zaleplon and eszopiclone) had an increased rate of infections seems to support this theory. Benzodiazepine hypnotic agents are also associated with an increased risk of cancer in humans, namely ovarian cancer. Development of malignancy has been associated with zolpidem usage, but the incidence of neoplasm in zolpidem users is as yet unknown.[49]

    Indiplon, another nonbenzodiazepine drug has also shown an increased rate of cancers in clinical trials. The review author concluded by saying: "The likelihood of cancer causation is sufficiently strong now that physicians and patients should be warned that hypnotics possibly place patients at higher risk for cancer".[49]

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      Hi Jaw444,

      Yes, I read the Wiki article and that's what me so scared in the first place and motivated me to give up. Hope you succeed to.

      The side effects from Zopiclone/Zimovane/Imovane are fairly horrid too, including:

      - metallic taste in your mouth

      - dry mouth / eyes while (trying to) sleep at night

      - messes up your bowel movement times

      - short term memory loss

      - weight gain

      - mood changes esp. depression

      As you say the Z's are poison. I think they should be banned completely, they just are not safe.

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    To follow up on what Anita said -- i started taking zolpidem (Ambien, Stillnox) 20 years ago for sleep. In recent years, especially 2012, i started getting increasing tolerance and i had to take more, it wasn't working as good.  That was when i added in zopiclone, 7.5mg a night along with zolpidem.  Over the year of 2013, i continued the zopiclone, and gradually increased the zolpidem.  Taking the two together was bringing on new symptoms, which i think were caused by the zolpidem, brain symptoms. i knew this was really bad for me, and i finally got the courage to start tapering off the zopiclone, 1/4 pill starting in early January of this year.  After about 4 weeks, i cut another 1/4, so i was taking 1/2 pill, and then two weeks later i cut another 1/4 and was taking 1/4 pill, and a week later i stopped. This was much easier to do because iw as still taking the zolpidem which got me to sleep. i was very happy to get off the zopiclone, and eager to get off the zolpidem as well.  Both those drugs are short acting and that's why you will have withdrawal symptoms fairly often during the day.  Zolpidem is the most short acting, half of it is out of your blood stream in about 3 hours.  That's why i got so much tolerance to it.  I would take it at bedtime--i was stking 17mg at bedtime--and i was only sleeping about an hour and a half. Then, i would wait til about 4am and i would take another 10mg to get some more sleep. So i was up to 27mg a night. I wanted to taper off but it seemed so hard because of the frequent withdrawal symptoms and because i was taking it twice--i couldn't imagine how i could still get any sleep. i went to an addictiion doctor who speicalizes in that and he adviseed me to switch off the zolpidem onto diazapam and then taper off the diazapam. He said that would be much easier because that is a much longer acting medication, like it can be as much as 100 hours for half of it to leave your blood stream. i had misgivings, but i did it. He said to just stop the zolpidem and start 10mg of Valium, not tapering off the zolpidem but just switching, just like that, overnight, and i did and i didnt' feel anythign from stopping the zolpidem. The diazapam was stronger and for the first time in years, i slept right through the night, not waking at all, or if i did wake, then going right back to sleep. I did have a strong hangover the next day from it. I did that for about 7 days and then met with the doctor again (who also wanted me to call him and tell him what was happening). When i met with him, he said to start tapering, he was surprised at how bad my hangover was, i was not functional during the day. So, i cut down to 9mg, and i was continuing to have some hang over though not as and it got a little harder to sleep.  Then he said i could cut the diazapam 1mg every 4 days.  So, i went to 8mg, and that went fine, the first day, i had trouble sleeping but the next three, i slept well, all night, and wasn't getting the hangover though i wasn't as energetic as i'd been on the zolpidem, in spite of not sleeping much on it.  Two nights ago i cut to 7mg diazapam and i did not sleep all night,  but there was another reason for that, a worry i had, a fear of going to sleep, long story, won't go into it now, related to low blood sugar on waking and apparently going into a coma, i live alone so i don't fully know, but serious impairment on waking, which then eventually went away enough that i could move around--at first i couldn't get up, off my back, so i was scared to go to sleep, and i cut the diazapam anyway because i want to get off all these drugs ASAP, i suspect they have caused the low blood sugar problem i'm having,, my brain is not getting enough glucose.  Anyway, after no sleep at all night before last, i was tired last night and slept pretty fine on 7mg diazapam.  A couple more nights and i will go to 6mg.  This is a common approach to helping people get off short acting drugs like zopiclone and zolpidem. At least one other member here, Dave, used this method in some form.  

    Good luck with getting off, these drugs are poison, seriously, i'm not being overdramatic, they are toxic, poison, dangerous, as you know from experience.  Keep in touch, it sounds like your doctor is supportive. You can google ways of getting off the zop and see what various people do. We have two people here who have used phenergan, an antihistamine, to get off, Christian and Matrix. i don't remember how high of a dose they were at.  Others, like Vivien, have used mirtazapine, one guy was Dean, haven't seen him around in a while.  

     

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