zopiclone addiction

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Hi, I am glad to have found this group!

I started taking Zopiclone over 3 years ago, initially as I travelled quite a bit and found it difficult to sleep often. Then in Jan 2011 I was in the US for a week, and took a 7.5mg tab every night. I can remember feeling much more calm and relaxed; when I returned I did not take any for a few weeks but then had some more travel lined up. Foolishly instead of going to my GP I found a place on the internet where you coould buy them - and that's how it got started. After a while I found I needed one during the day to 'calm me down', now after 3 years I take about 4-5 7.5mg tabs a day; usually after 6 hours I'm craving another.

I saw my GP about it a while back but he just suggested trying to switch gradually to half strength ones, but the sleeplessness and anxiety meant I couldn't seem to do that.

Today I learned that Zopiclone is to be come scheduled on 10th June and my supplier won't sell it in the UK any more. I guess its the kick I need to give up this horrid drug - I hate the side effects it has - so have booked in to see the GP soon. I am so nervous about withdrawal though.

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    Keith, Anita, can Keith contact CITA for help interfacting with GP?  I can understand some GPs not wanting to just go on a patient's say so to prescribe an addictive medication like diazapam--as addictive as zop is, diazapam is more addictive in certain ways because it is also anti-anxiety and muscle relaxant and anti-convulsive, and going off it affects not just the sedative dependence but dependence in these other neurotransmitter processes. Not only that but diazapam is so long lasting that it builds up in your tissue while you're taking it and the elimnation half life is much longer than zopiclone so that it takes a long time to be eliminated from plasma circulation, and how long is unpredictable, related to individual conditions such as age, liver function and many others. Zop is quickly eliminated from circulation, so that it doesn't build up in tissue as much as diazapam does. Diazapam can't be eliminated very quickly, so every time a new dose is taken, some of it accumulates in the body, and i don't thnk this is well understood medically, just speculated about.  Diazapam, clinically, has a good track record for helping people who are dependent on the shorter acting medications because it takes so long to be eliminated, tapering off it can be easier and smoother than with the shorter acting meds. But this does involve experience and expertise of the doctor, monitoring and encouraging the tapering process.  I can understand a GP not having confidence in their experience in managing withdrawal from meds. Some GPs are more willing to work with the patient and learn knew things than others. That's why i wonder if the involvement of CITA would help--if they might contact teh GP by phone to provide contact info where the GP can consult while managing withdrawal (from diazapam), or with a letter that the GP can place in the patient's chart which provides him with a kind of coverage, showing that he is consulting with experts during the process.  I think if i had ready access to CITA, i would seek out their help with my dependence. My GP is clearly not experienced, nor am i, in using the diazapam crossover method, that's why i sought out a specialist in addictioin medicine, but in retrospect, i didn't find his communication to be adequate for my needs, and maybe the options just aren't that many--i went off zolpidem onto diazapam but then found that i was so hung over from diazapam, it ruined the quality of my daily life in a way that zolpidem did not, so now i'm using the zolpidem to help me taper off the diazapam.  My case is more complex because i recently learned i have an insulinoma which is a rare condition, a non-malignant tumor that is very tiny on the pancreas that secrets insulin into the blood stream, which removes glucose from your blood, causing you to be very hypoglycemic, which makes me very tired and lacking energy that glucose normally gives, so it's too hard for me to tell what is caused by diazapam and what's caused by the insulinoma, insulinoma is curable by surgery and i'm in the process of trying to get that scheduled, and then i can get back to the project of getting off my Z drugs, but it wasn't until my addiction meds doctor took my insulinoma evidence seriously that he got on the same page with me about getting off the sleep meds, we are waiting until the insulinoma is gone. I think CITA is a very good support option that can probably make a positive difference in most peoeple's withdrawal efforts.  
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      Hi jaw,

      its interesting what you say about diazepam and how that may not be the best route. I am really wondering if I should just stop the zops and put up with the withdrawal effects as it seems there is no help available. I don't think the doc would listen to CITA, I just don't think he really can be bothered to put his neck out and help, sad to say. All my life I've thought the NHS was a wonderful thing, but when I finally need its help,I find that is's just a lottery.

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      Hi Jaw

      In response to your question about CITA they are listed  by the Department of Health as a source of information and help to GPs ,nurses and other health professionals.It is true that a lot of GPs are not experienced in benzodiaxepine addiction and withdrawl .Although zopiclone like the otherZ drugs is not a benzo it effects on the brain are very similiar.Diazapan is as you say a long acting drug ,zopiclone short acting and because of this CITA believe that conversion to diazapine followed by slow withdrawal is the best way to come off the Z drugs.Diazepan is as addictive as the Z s but not more addictive.I hope this as helped a little i am not qualified on the drugs but learnt a lot from CITA about these drugs during my addictionSome are lucky to be able just to cut their dosage little by little to withdraw but for many like myself this way is just to painful with horrendous withdrawal symtoms that can occur.CITA are the best people to talk to and their are other similiar organisations but these were the ones that helped me.I have never looked back and at one time i never thought i would be the person i used to be because of my addiction.Its been over 3 years for me now and my life is as it was before i started taking this sleeping tablet.Reason for starting was at the time i was going through a very stressful divorce and was not sleeping.At the time i thought its just a sleeping tablet will stop when i feel better which as you know is not so straight forward.

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      Sorry about spelling mistakes , rushing to reply as cant always get back straightaway, work etc
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      Sorry again but also meant to say that CITA offer a Benzodiazepine Withdrawal Protocol , this letter of protocol introduces CITA and includes a tranquilliser reduction/ wirhdrawal programme that can be shown to your GP , i had one myself but didnt produce to GP as they agreed with my plan of action from the start
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    Hi I told you a few months ago I was giving them up well I failed  I am back on them , and the price has gone up shame united pharm stopped them .
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      Hi Bren.  I also tried giving them up but not out of choice, my gp stopped them.  After one month of hardly any sleep i decided to get some of the internet. A UK company. I know american companys cant ship them anymore. When i received them they dont look like the ones you get that are prescribed over here and i dont think they are as effective. Sometimes i get to sleep, and sometimes i dont. What are your experiences of internet Zopiclone. Have you tried any others yet. Do you think the quality is the same.
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      As you no longer get them from UP where else? I have been using UP for over 4 years and it's like hell now. I've searched online, most just look like scams
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      I dont think any of the internet suppliers sell the real deal.  My gp prescribed some and i thought "oh great" a good nights kip at last". Took the prescription to Asda chemist and when i got them, theyb were exactly the same as the internet ones, which quite frankly are not the same. I am very annoyed as i had at last managed to get some legitimately. Has anyone else had this experience.
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    Hi Keith,

     

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      Hi Geri. Hows it going with you.  I am waiting to see if i can get repeat prescription on Wednesday for another months supply of Zopiclone.  I am so nervous that i will get a phone call to come in and see doctor to discuss it. I just put repeats in and hope for the best. Fingers crossed. 
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    Hi Keith,

    I am Geri I have been on Zopiclone now must be for about ten years after a very good friend of mine killed her self my G-P started me on one Zopiclone but it only worked for a while I am now on two Zopiclone now and addicted to them,

    I have become medically dependent on them

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      Hi Geri. Is that a problem for you being dependent on them. I have been taking them for at least fifteen years now. Are you having a problem getting them, as quite a few people on this site are, including myself at times. I tried to give them up but realised i was better of mentally and physically taking one a night. Are you looking to try and give them up. There is lots of advice here if you do decide to do that.
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      I am not going to give up, I work 12hr shifts and need my sleep
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    Hi Keith

    I want to update on my own efforts to come off 11 mg Zopiclone ( on it for 13 years and was adding to my own low prescription using Internet provided Z's). I stopped taking Zopiclone 9 weeks ago after looking at the CITA website and advice and crossed over to 9  mg Diazepam nightly. My GP was very supportive on this.  I hoped to reduce quickly and am now on 6 mg but feeling a bit scared to drop lower. I feel very different with Diazepam - not sleeping quickly or well, but I do get some sleep. I am more emotional and feel I have lost some kind of 'security' that I felt with Zopiclone (misplaced, I think, since I didnt sleep that well with it and felt pretty hungover in the day time). But on the other hand, I'm off it, and the Diazepam dose is relatively low - and also, I think I've lost my fear of not sleeping. I've realised I can get a few hours and still live my life ok.  I'm hoping to drop another mg this week, when I have a quiet time coming up. I feel I'm doing well, but it's also hard and its a very big deal. That's my experience so far!

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      Hi Jaygee, I'm glad you got support of your GP and are crossing over. Are they OK with you extending the timescales a bit? I don't have any fear of sleeping... but I do have anxiety during the day (and sometimes the night) . Anyhow am glad you seem to be so close to kicking them ... dont give up, be strong! You can do it!
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      Hi Jaygee , just read your post and just felt i had to comment and say well done you must be very proud of yourself coming off zopiclone.I too was addicted to this and managed to come off over 3 years ago now by the same method as you and advice from CITA.It can be difficult at times in the beginning but the key thing is to withdraw very slowly i withdrew only half a mg every two weeks.Sometimes if try to cut too much can end up going back on due to withdrrawel symtoms.You are have done so well so keep going and be positive.When i was withdrawing i always used to look to the future and tell myself that i would eventually be free of these drugs and back to the old me that was, and looked to my family having me back.If you can find a focus to look forward to that can teally help.Take care

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