Air con and humidifier for COPD
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Hi, am new to this forum. My husband has COPD. We live in the UK and the humidity is very high at the moment. Can anyone point me in the right direction re air cons/humidifiers. Mick is really suffering with the heat and humidity.
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georgy0 janice95838
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Hello Janice,95838,
It has been awful I will agree with you over that. I live in the UK too, and found the heat unbearable when outside and having to do things inside as well. The only way I could cope was to have cold water to drink, and cold water on a cloth to put on my skin usually my forehead and the back of my neck where my hair drips with sweat. I have humidifiers, air conditioners, dehumidifiers, you name it. They are really only useful to me in the winter, when the doors and windows are closed. But that does not mean they won't work for your husband, as you will soon find out, none of us is the same with this condition. Another little thing that might help is for him to take time out. If it doesn't have to be done urgently, then leave it until the weather is kinder to his breathing tubes. No point in making matters worse if they don't need to be. Family and Friends will of course, struggle with understanding Why your Husband hasn't mowed the lawn and been to do the weekly shop in one go, but you can always tell a little white lie, if you feel they won't understand (like I have to).The carbon footprint, or saving the space, or any such tall-tale is good enough. I've had this for some time now, and am in stage 3, so had time to think up all kinds of excuses! But why not? Patience with himself will be his greatest challenge, of that I am certain, as it really bothered me to begin with. Until I became my own best friend, and started being kind to myself. Take things slow and steady, not rushed. Those are the only 'tips' I can offer, but I hope you and your husband find a way, soon.
janice95838 georgy0
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Thanks Georgo for in depth advice much appreciated.
deanne77778 georgy0
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Hi Janice,
I agree with georgyo, It's a question of concentrating on the essentials and doing things a different way to make life easier for your husband. Everyday tasks take longer but it doesn't matter, you only have yourselves to please. There's no rush and RUSH is out of the question with COPD. Just do what you can when you can and change your mindset. Nothing else is that important. It doesn't matter what other people think, it's your life so enjoy it to suit you.
I'm sure all of us wish you the very best and we are here for you.
janice95838 georgy0
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Forgot to say Georgo Mick doesnt need to take time out he has me to do all chores lol! Not his fault he is stage 4. He manages to prepare meals and drives. He was going to exercise class on a Friday but much too hot these last two weeks. The humidity leaves him just sitting there and struggles to get upstairs. So really don't know what to buy him. He gas been relying on a fan and doesn't go to bed at the mo. he is on oxygen 24/7 and supposed to use BIPAP at night x but been too hot. Am wondering if the smaller units are any good!
janice95838 deanne77778
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Thank you for your kind words Deanne. i know we all have our problems. Ours is we have family all over the country lol!
larry49033 janice95838
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I have COPD and I rely upon a small window AC unit to supplement the HVAC unit that supplies the inside environment most of the time. I use the window unit when the heat exceeds the ability of the HVAC to keep up. without it I would be in serious trouble. I purchased it on sale at a retail store. I could use a humidifier my self, but they are also widely available for reasonable prices.
Back on AC units, window units come in a wide range of cooling capacity as well as price. You most determine the amount of area that the window unit will service and how much you can afford to spend. In addition, many online services now will ship the product to your door in only a few days.
I recommend that you as soon as you can, as trying to breath when the air is too hot is a torture. So shop wisely, but do so quickly. If installation is a concern, get a friend or neighbor to help out.
All the best
janice95838 larry49033
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Larry thank you so much for your advice was very helpful to me.
janice95838 larry49033
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Hi Larry what is a HVAC? I really want to get something as quickly as possible. He really is suffering with the humidity. As I said to Georgo Mick is stage 4 and oxygen 24/7 and is not using us BiPaP nask at the mo .
janice95838 larry49033
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btw LARRY what does a window ibe look like ?
larry49033 janice95838
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I believe that some call an HVAC system a heat pump. It serves both as a AC and a Heating unit. HVACs are electrically powered and are widely used here in America.
A window ibe? Never heard of such a thing. However Air Conditioning units that fit/operate from a window have been sold for decades everywhere.
Additionally, does Mick have an ongoing problem with mucus? If so I recommend an over the counter medicine sold in America called Mucinex. It acts to loosen the mucus and reduce it's production. A generic brand is available called Guaifenesin and can be found online and at retail outlets.
Also, Air Quality is most important, be sure to change / clean air filters on a regular basis. That and the use of non or low scented cleaners in the home help also.
I too struggle each day with my health. I feel your challenges as well, for I also contend with many of the same problems myself.
All the Best
aitarg35939 janice95838
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HVAC is a central heating/cooling device that covers a whole house or building. Window units in the States are mostly a rectangle that fits few windows precisely so it has accordioned "wings" that you pull out and screw into the window frame. They often require a prop to stay in place. You must pay close attention to the square footage-to-btu ratio, and to whether you have an electrical outlet that matches the unit's plug, and to how much electricity they pull as even the smallest can overload the electrics for a given room. They are expensive to operate but sometimes in the States you just have to have them. But: Fans, people! Buy some electric fans or install a ceiling fan. I prefer oscillating fans as i can't stand one blowing continuously, especially at my face. I have ceiling fans where possible -- even in the garage, lol -- & oscillating fans in kitchen & living room. They cist so much less than air conditioners, both in purchase and running costs.
I live in Texas and have lived in the Arizona desert, also. It's humid where i am tho less so than where i grew up on the coast and other places i've lived such as New Orleans. I spent 20+ years with Himself, who did home weatherization & everything to do with that. The ONLY time a humidifier helps in hot weather is out in the desert or when you have low humidity. That is also the only place where certain kinds of air conditioners work, i.e., the kind that cools a room a little but by, hey presto, spitting out water! So if you find something called an air conditioner to buy, make sure it doesn't need water fir operation.
Three of the best ways to cool down are
take a tepid-to-cool shower/bath (or just a rinse) and drip dry. Even better if you can drip dry under or in front of a fan on low. Or just go rinse your head off in not-hot water & let that drip dry. Toweling off wastes most of the effect.
Sponge a bit of rubbing alcohol here & there. This has long-term bad effects if you're doing the whole body so try to resist. Strategic points: behind ears, back of neck, inside elbows , underneath breasts, across tummy. white vinegar has the same effect but the fumes are hard to take.
Soak your feet in cool water
aitarg35939
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There are a few more tricks from my un-airconditioned childhood:
2.Stop drinking hot drinks. Seriously. Chill your tea and coffee, just til the weather breaks.
3.Cook indoors as little as possible except in a microwave. Eat yogurt, popsicles and ice cream, and hold the cold stuff in your mouth as long as possible.
Wear only loose natural fibers when you must cover up. Get high count cotton sheets, or satin ones. Sleep nude.
Dusting powder helps keep one comfortable when you must get dressed. This was the southern woman's secret to survival before A.C. Sad to say, all our talc in the States seems to have asbestos so i'm trying not to use it. We used to lightly dust everything that would be covered by clothes before we got dressed, then dress carefully so not to smear away onto the outside of your clothes.
Leave the house & go to a refrigerated building as much as possible. Of course I don't know how many of those there are in the UK, but grocery stores & movie theaters are usually cooler than the streets.
aitarg35939 larry49033
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Larry, guafenisen has been around as formulated drug in the States since the '30s, FDA approved in '52. It was a cheap, effective OTC med looooong before pure mean greed came up with a new name -- Mucinex -- and a very expensive price. If you think my words harsh, you should hear one of my pharmacists. Big tough college football player, he tears up at how capitalism figures out ways to make cheap non-RX meds expensive here, on top of the criminal mess that is our prescription drug boondoggle.
Please do not refer to guafenisen as a generic of Mucinex as that is 100% incorrect. "Mucinex" is not the name of the drug; it is guafenisen. It's also an insult to the Native Americans who used the natural ingredients from a tree before Europeans arrived here.
larry49033 aitarg35939
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Altarg.
Your knowledge is most informative, but like the chicken or the egg and what came first, getting out the information to help others is far more important than which came first. I bow to your knowledge on the subject, but getting out a message that can benefit others is more important to me than being perfectly correct.
This discussion is centered upon Air Conditioners and Humidifiers. I'm far from being an expert, but if my experience or limited knowledge can help another, then that someone else benefited is reward enough. For me controlling my environments heat/cooling has a direct impact upon how my breathing is. Too hot or too cold and my breathing suffers. As for humidity it is more of a problem in the winter months when levels are lower. I have been saving my coins though and may be ready to shop for a home humidifier by November.
All the Best
larry49033 janice95838
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Janice,
Where you live in Great Britain is very different from where I live in Virginia, USA. We use different names for the same things. We live differently as our locations have conditioned us to. Here open windows are rare and only in the spring or fall when the weather is perfect. Otherwise, our windows remain closed as we control our Temperature and Humidity. Yes, we do open our windows as needed to vent unwanted Kitchen heat or odors. Also there are the family gatherings where the patio door is more open than closed.
Closing your windows may seen odd for you, but gaining control of the breathing environment for Mick would seen more of a priority. If your home is large, you may require more than one Air Conditioner to properly do the job. Consult with your local retail sales expert and others as necessary to learn more. Additionally, the internet may help you to learn more about Air Conditioners.
All the Best
janice95838 larry49033
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Thsnks Larry