An Experiment with Borax

Essentially what my husband did was a concentrate - he slowly added borax to water, stirring and dissolving until the borax would no longer disolve. It's called a saturated solution. He did the same with the baking soda. For application purposes he dipped a q-tip into the solution and applied it to the affected area. We read up quite extensively on the subject, and also read that many people are getting borax and boric acid confused (and boron). So people definitely need to make sure they're getting the right thing.

I just bought a kilo of this:    Borax Sodium Tetraborate Decahydrate 99.9%

is it the right stuff?

thanks.....

 

Hi there, I just Googled to make sure and according to the net, it is. There're several different names for borax and this came up as one of them. I doubled checked to make sure it wasn't another name for boric acid which is what you definitely do not want to use and it isn't.

Thank you.   I tried it yesterday and no adverse effects.....  In fact it mixed up much better than the polish one i bought off The auction site.

Not used any steroid cream for three weeks now......  Though i told gynae that i was using bicarbonate of soda and they said......   There is no evidence it would work but they by no means have all the answers....  I didnt brooch the  borax.....   :-(.    

 

Thanks for this question.just bought some on line after reading your question to alistar.xxxxxxxxx

As I tell everyone, remember to take photos! It really helps to actually compare!! And don't give up, things will get better. And you're right, the doctors don't have all the answers. Most of them barely have any of them, and some have absolutely zero. But this site is a great resource, use it. Keep us posted and good luck!!

Hi Alistar, I am still symptom free after almost 2 months, no itching, biting or stinging, So thankful!!! I have been applying the Borax solution twice daily and I have also been placing a cotton ball soaked in the solution on me and

leaving it there for 5-6 minutes or so. I have also been soaking for 10 minutes in a light Borax solution when I can.

My clitoris is still fused and my question is how long does or can it take for the fusion to release? Can I be using the Borax to frequently? Any ideas would be appreciated.

Hi Joanna! So glad to hear you continue to be symptom free. That's awesome. As for the fusing, I  unfortunately  have no answer. That has been another happy side-effect that has come from the use of borax for me and for others. But due to the varying degrees of fusing, it's impossible to say how long it'll take. I feel like one of our contributors mentioned that she noticed some releasing after many many months...but she was quite advanced in her fusing. Mine didn't take long, but I have very very little. Try to let it go, continue with treatment, and hopefully some change will happen with your fusing soon! Thank you for letting us know how things are going! It's super beneficial for all when we share our experiences, it helps encourage others to give it a try!!

Thanks for responding, I will practice patience, I think that maybe my short-suit

I am sharing my success with everyone, I have been SO Blessed by the Borax solution treatment and the Borax soaks!

I’ve read of this method. A paste was made of the borax and baking soda. Applied. No bath. And this person got rid of LS. 

where did you read this? I'd be interested to see. I find that if I make the solution too strong I get sore, so I'm wondering about it neat, but still curious to read about it.

I'm not sure that I believe the LS is gone permanently, but I wouldn't be surprised if what they did helped put it into remission. But like Bridge, I'd like to read about it. This site may not let you post the link to the article, so would you mind sending it in a private message?

Hi Joanna 

Just wondering if you are still having luck with the borax solution and how long it took for unfusing?  

Thank you. 

Hi Susan..I am in remission..

Borax sits baths and homeopathic creams I used until cleared up...

Had biospy and confirmed LS...never fused..so everyone is different...but I am paranoid now..it's been about 6 months now and completely normal...I suffered terribly use to cry...but at this time and place I am normal..

Borax is my friend...used it

Every day..hot as you can stand it about a teaspoon of borax and 1\2 teaspoon of baking soda. For about 15 minutes...worked for me...in remission and very Happy..

Wish you the best Susan...let me know how you are doing

I got mine from Amazon ..went to the reviews first..worked. Out fine...Consider this my friend along with great care I received from my husband...

Please tell me which one on Amazon you bought. They have several. I am having no luck at all and fusing continues

Sodium Bicarbonate from Amazon made by Prescribed for life.  1 teaspoon each borax and baking soda in a hot sitz bath for 20 minutes every single day until it cleared up...finally cleared up.....praise the Lord..

also while doing that mixed Vitamin B and E oil in a bottle and applied this using a q tip..do not rinse... along using the sitz bath.  Vitamin B i believe you can get on Amazon also....Good Luck and hope you get better soon..

Hi Joann 😊

So happy for you!! Another very inspiring testimony of the Borax method.

i just started it a few days so far applying the saturated solution. Haven’t seen any change yet except it looks a bit shriveled. I will do the hot soaking bath along with it. ( I’ve had confirmation through biopsy over a month ago)

I was wondering all theses ladies that apply or soak in Borax but then like you put creams or oils ect on after, won’t that take the Borax solution off rubbing on coconut oil or vit b , e, ? 

Or do you all wait several hours later? 

Thank you ??

Hi there - I'm not sure if I am making the solution correctly. In an 8 ounce glass of water i can only get about a teaspoon of borax to dissolve. Does that sound about right? Also, can I store the solution or so I have to make a fresh batch every day? Thank you so much!!

I only used borax in a sitz bath every day for 20 minutes..does dissolve must use hot water to melt it...helped me so much....used it until I was healed...did come back but used the sitz bath again with hot water and borax...and again. I am healed..no cure ..but borax. Is a lifesaver...try it that way...about 1-2 teaspoons of borax in a sitz bath of hot water every day for about 20 minutes a day...wishing you the best...but you will feel better soon...

Thank you so much. I am so stressed about this and the fusing (minimal but still scary). I hope it all clears up soon. I was using clobetasol for a month and it made everything so much worse and irritated.

New to this board: I found you by looking up urinary problems with LS. I couldn't believe how bad I've gotten in such a short time - I've had LS about 8 years with the anal itching waking me up at night. I have been using tacrolimus ointment 2x day/every other day, with a Yuvafem estrogen vaginal suppository every other day, some testosterone ointment on the tacrolimus off days. Needless to say, I have been steadily going downhill. I'll be responding to another poster on this board about cross-diagnoses - I have some psoraisis on my hands, and the past couple weeks I've been tearing my skin off. So, can you say Stress????? I noticed I've been having to strain when urinating this past week, took a look and almost passed out. It fused over so fast!

THE BORAX. I just can't say enough for the borax experiment. I mixed it up as alistar described. I made sure I used a mirror, drenched the swab and gently applied. It started unfusing a small section right away - right while I was watching! I dried and waited about an hour to make sure I didn't have any terrible unforseen reaction...then proceded to drench a cottonball with the solution, and let it sit for 15 minutes. The difference is amazing. A larger portion has come unfused. I cannot say how long its been this bad, since I only had the urinary problem for about a week. I've applied a good cover of coconut oil and plan on doing the same again tomorrow. I just can't say thank you enough for the information - doctors know NOTHING compared to the ladies here. Thanks from the bottom of my heart!

We. are all stressed believe me..I do know. Borax.helps with LS... Got it from Amazon. "Prescribed for Life" Borax....try a sitz bath with the borax.......warmest water possible.....so soothing ...keep it up until you see results...at least once a day...wishing you the best...

Thanks!

I have an appointment this week with a new Gyn. I plan on telling her about the borax. I have been using coconut oil after each bathroom trip and the itching is practically non-existent.

I was prescribed clobetasol when I was first diagnosed. I used it for two weeks (the recommended time) but it only caused more irritation. When my dermatologist saw the tube (I always bring new meds to my appointments since my skin is so sensitive) and asked me WHERE I was putting it, she was horrified. That's how I ended up seeing her colleague, a cancer specialist who prescribed the Protopic (tacrolimus), Yuvifem estrogen tabs and the testosterone ointment. It just wasn't working anymore. she did say that things like the tacrolimus for auto-immune could stop being effective - it's why it was an on-and-off day type of use.

Does anyone have any recommendations for ointments/creams I should be trying? I'm perfectly happy to stay with just coconut oil - but it does tend to sink in faster than I would like.

Thanks again for all the valuable info here.

Hi Pat...if coconut oil is working for you..why stop it...I use what works ...and the coconut oil is working for you...I will tell you a secret...doctors do not believe in Borax treatments...which works for .most LS patients..no money to be made by the drug companies who want you on steroid medication which in fact never worked for me...if you need to tell him Do so...but my doctor put on the the steroid meds and didn't work for me ..the Borax medication treatments helped me tremendously...but you do what you want...they will probably want to give their own medication..steroids by the way are not good for you over long term.

Wishing you the best....JoAnm

I agree. when I told the specialist that I was using borax she looked shocked and told need to stop and just use the steroid ointment only. of course I ignored her and I use a borax mix everyday twice a day and will not ever stop using it While it works for me!

Yes, the coconut oil is working, but I would like to find another natural ingredient that would make the 'oil slippery' effect last longer for overnight use. This morning I believe things were not quite as loose as they were when I did the second Borax treatment yesterday. The coconut oil just soaks in so fast.....maybe some beeswax mixed in?

I'm telling the Doc (female) no matter what - yes, my first doc put me on clobetesol first and it just made me red and irritated. But maybe she'll end up seeing some poor unfortunate woman, like I was on Saturday, and she'll remember that someone told her about The Borax Experiment, found online. I needed to find a new Gyn anyway, since the guy I had just kinda poo poo'd me, was not very gentle, and p****d me off with his 'oh well, nothing to be done here' attitude. At least his nurse was sympathetic.....(eyeroll) I just want to be sure I dont have signs of any skin cancers there.

thanks again, Pat

I did the two treatments yesterday, then did the soak for the first time this morning - yes, it did feel good! I plan on doing a treatment in a couple hours, then again at night. Treating this disease is surely a full time job!

I'm with you - wild horses couldn't drag me away from this solution!

I know...doctors don't want you to use Borax...which works for almost LS patients...you use what works for you...they the doctors must help support the drug companies which supply the steroids..which can give you Cushings disease after long term use...you are smart not to use the steroid medication...good luck to you...wishing you the best...JoAnn

Hi I know the doctors are opposed to something that works......they don't want to hear it...but for me personally...it took me out of my misery......I know it not a cureall but it WORKS...glad you know better...long term use of the steroid they want to give all of us....can give you Cushings disease...also be careful using Borax ..but use it until you get relief...then lay off for a while ...but use it when the need arises...wishing you the best...right now I feel great...how long...I don't know...know Borax is my friend...JoAnn

Yet another unthinking doctor then. This unsympathetic approach seems to be all too common. Maybe we should all be saying 'Hoe would you like to have a disease that disfigures an intimate part of your anatomy and causes pain and irritation on a daily basis plus the worry of cancer on top of that?' I am sure it is precisely because they know so little about LS and have no cure or answers that they become dismissive, but that is not good professional practice. I also think they should listen alittle more to what we find useful : BORAX.

You are exactly correct...they the doctors are dismissive and treat us as though we are stupid and don't know what we are talking about...my own doctor wants me on the steroid program...no way the only thing that helped me is the Borax...will continue to use it...lets not forget the doctors work with the drug companies...they push the steroids on their patients..I wholly be live they don't know what they are talking about..and they get insulted when we mention Borax as a great treatment....they don't know how to treat LS and the drug companies say it's a steroid treatment...which never helped me...also long term use of this steroid...long term....causes Cushing disease....look it up..wishing all my friends on this site the best of health and keep up the good work.....and spread the word how good Borax is...not a cure ..but keeps LS at bay...we can go on with our lives...

Yes, I figured I'd give it a little rest at the end of this week. I found mixing coconut oil with some beeswax and olive oil makes up a nice paste that melts like the coconut oil, but does not soak in as fast. I think I'll be as aggressive as I can this week, then do just the soak and coconut oil/beeswax mix for the next week.

It's funny how docs get all excited about using borax - which is just a mineral with salts. Baking soda is a cleaner - but it's in every baked good I make. They certainly like to protect the pharma biggies - shame on them. I can tell though that this is a rest-of-my-life process - I'll never be as lax in checking my condition as I was this past year - with dire consequences.

Good care to all.....Pat

Also so surprising - the docs I have been to seem just so UNINTERESTED in finding some solutions for this problem. I guess it just does not affect enough of the women they see. My dermatologist is the only doc that looked for solutions - but they stopped working.

Maybe we would qualify as one of those 'orphan' diseases, that no one wants to cure because there is no money in it. 😉

has anyone here tried borax in water to drink daily ? i have read about it and the dose is small

Dear KC....I don't know...I don't think it can hurt you...but I used it in sitz bath only...and it works..I was so sick...Borax made me so much better...my suggestion to you is do your research before injesting Borax...in this way you will have all the facts in your decision...take care my friend...JoAnn

I ingest Borax everyday and it help me a lot with LS.

Check out the info at earthclinic. com, there are few articles and video about how to make the solution

Never ingested it..just used it in a. sitz bath...take care my friend

can you tell me, please , how much water and borax roughly I need to mix? thanks

hey,

I am just curious how much water you add to this solution. i am new to all this. just recently got diagnosed in Canada. i seen one doc in Nova Scotia and one in Prince Edward Island. the lady in Nova Scotia told me to put a tiny bit of the steroid cream on the effective areas only. the person in Prince Edward Island where I am from told me to put it over my entire vulva to prevent it from turning into the white skin. I am so confused I have completely different information from two doctors.

I had exactly the same experience when I was diagnosed. But I decided to go with the LS expert whose advice was to spread the steroid all over the front and back areas as it grows in figure of 8. She also said that i was using too little of the steroid ointment and I should be using about 2cms over the whole area. Hope this helps.

I only use it in a sit z bath...I usually use about 1/4 cup to the warmest water you can tolerate...for 20 minutes every day until you see results..besides helping it is refreshing....hope I answered your question...20 minutes.. take something to read...JoAnn

In the past year my routine is:

Coconut oil am/pm and extra if needed

Traumeel special compound 2-3 times a week (i wrote a post about it)

Pelvic floor PT at home almost every day for a few minutes

AND I'm not using steroids anymore

My Dr. btw, is always looking for new ways to treat my lichen. He is really one of a kind. He is accepting at Jefferson University Hospital in Philadelphia, PA. DM me if you would like his information. The hospital just launched their new department for Vulvovaginal Health and my Dr. is the head of it! So proud to be his patient of 4 years now 😃

Hi I only use it in a. sit z bath about a 1/4 cup of Borax to a the warmest water you can tolerate..for 20 minutes every day until you see results...sit z. bath you can get in any drug store.....

Hope I've helped you...JoAnn

Hi...I use it the sit z bath only but you can use the tub..sitz bath is the size of a toilet bowl...I fill it with warm. water and about 1/4 cup of Borax for 20 minutes every day until you get results...in the bath I would use. 1/2 cup. of Borax to the warmest water you can tolerate...every day for 20 minutes...wishing you good health...JoAnn

Hi Rose ..I use Borax in the sit z bath or you can use the tub....sit z. bath. I use 1/4 cup of Borax to the warmest water possible for 20. Miniutes every day until you get results....in the tub. I would use at least 1/ 2 cup to the bath water...hopes this helps you...JoAnn

Hi Joann and all you strong women going through this.. Im new to this forum but have been reading everyones experiences.

Yours was inspiring Joann being saved by Borax.

For me, I have no idea how long Ive had LS.

Just about 3 weeks ago I felt some bumps or lesions that were sensitive and itching around my clitoris but I also have BV that has been impossible to get rid of so itching seemed normal.

But concerning the bumps maybe they've been there all along and I just thought they were Herpes ( which I also have)

So Ive come to realize that the symptoms Im having is not herpes or from the BV..

Because Of a small budget I havent been to the gyno to get a diagnosis but after the horror stories Ive heard about how the steroids made things extremely worse.. Well ..!

So I have some adhesions on the right side where the skin between labia majora has attached to the side of labia minora but I have taken my fingers and separated it very slowly and gently and it became very sore.

So I have done all my homework and bought the borax and sitz bath on Amazon. Tonight I had a bad flair up with itching and swelling so I sat in the Sitz bath as hot as I could stand it. It hurt but in a good way.! This was an hour ago. Im sitting on my sofa with all itching and swelling gone. I mixed coconut oil with Vit E and Lavender oil and applied it right after. Right now my Vulva feels so good.!

I feel relief for the first time in about a month.

Im going to keep it up and see if a miracle can happen for me too.! Thank you for being there with your compassion and care..

I'll keep everyone posted.!

Hi Linda,

So sorry you are experiencing this. I am new with this disease as well and this forum was very helpful.

Maybe try using less amount to start and gradually increase. That was an advice i got which helped.

Are you experiencing any white spots or plaque because those areas might be the trigger points to help you determine where the itch is coming from? The fusing might have a streak of white which looks like the labia are stuck or glued together.

give it a couple of days and i hope to hear things are working work better for you!

hi! may i ask what your routine is to main it once the symptoms of burning and itching goes away? how often would you do sitz bath once in remission? is it normal that clitoris can be sensitive when doing the bath? i find it gets raw down there and dry after?

hope to hear from you soon!

how much water? im very new to all this

I've been wondering how much clob to apply and if it can go front and back i have symptoms in the back also. So, 2cm and apply in a figure 8 motion? thank you!

hi how much borax? I'm nervous to use it This is all new to me

I would advise to start small. Borax can be drying and can irritate the skin.. My skin is very sensitive and so I started with 1/2 teaspoon in a sitz bath and have been getting results. So far I have not increased the dose. It is important to moisturise afterwards.

I am in another large online LS group and the standard people use is 1-2 teaspoons up to a Tablespoon. I have never heard of a quarter cup in a sits bath as people are reporting here. To avoid possible irritation and other problems, start small and build up as tolerated.

Are you using HOT water===like hot from a tea kettle hot?

What is "Prescribed for Life" Borax? We all use 20 Mule Team Borax for about $5 a box and get at most grocery stores, Walmart, Kmart, Lowe's, Amazon, Target, etc.

Hi Pat53550, (sorry for the late reply, I just found and joined this site today!),

What I use to maintain slip and that emolient feeling MUCH, MUCH longer than coconut oil are either emu oil, or castor oil. The emu oil is also a carrier oil... so I mix it with the estrace cream that I apply topically (I wouldn't use it with the steroid ointment/Clobetasol however as you don't want to absorb the steroid systemically). But I also use the emu oil several times a day, basically any time I feel I need something to keep the area moistened. Totally safe.

The castor oil I use is cold pressed and preservative free. It is EXTREMELY thick and long lasting, much heavier than the emu oil though, so whatever kind of "feel" I'm looking for at the moment is what I apply. Also, re the castor oil, it is known to be able to undo abdominal adhesions, so if you have fusing I'd think it could be very beneficial and definitely worth a try. Many healthy benefits to using castor oil.

Coconut oil always feels good, but for sure it does not last very long at all! Also, it is antibacterial and therefore it carries a risk of causing a yeast infection. I do use it, but just periodically. The other two oils (especially the emu oil) are my go to's.

I have not tried the Borax yet -- will try it this week. Does anyone know if the "20 Mule Team" brand of Borax is suitable??? I have some that I got on Amazon for my laundry (!! lol) so if it's ok to use that brand I won't have to buy another.

hi sunnydaze

Thank you for sharing! May i ask if you found that castor oil helped with unfusing? i have fusing on the clitoris that borax hasnt helped and has cause extreme skin dryness and irritation. where do you purchase cold press cator oil? I have been using coconut oil and like you said, it doesnt last long enough. Thank you and hope to hear from you soon!

I would like to know if castor oil helps unfuse too. I also use it mixed with turmeric oil but not very often as I find it so heavy. Emuaid is still me best choice. I have yet to find anything that reverses fusing.

Hello,

Is the borax the kind you get in the laundry detergent aisle? Like 20muleteam borax? I've been diagnosed with LS, and I've been using clobetasol ointment for 12 years. I really want to come off of it, but so far it's the only thing that has worked.

Thanks!

Laura

hi Laura74471,

sorry for the late replay, its been so busy for me. yes, that is the borax i use and buy. may i ask if your LS has gotten worse with using the clob for 12 years. what changes has the clob cause your skin in terms of long term? do you frequent flare up?

can you private message me the info link also?

hello Joann

i was windering what homeropathic creams you use? I just started getting LS after i got covid i have no clue why i know its LS though anyways im gnna try the borax amd baking soda but what cream do you suggest if i may ask?

recommendations and a good sitz bath?

what if I dont have a bathtub I have a foot soak container that my bum fits perfectly in, The water covers my vaginal area. how much borax should I use?

Are both baking soda and borax sold on amazon? Prescribed for life is very expensive. does it matter which brand?

thats sooooo encouraging! (and thank God for our helpful considerate spouses!)