An Experiment with Borax

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So, I've been in Vietnam now for just over a month. Haven't had any itching, but the white plaque has expanded and looked like a bit more fusing had occured. Panic set in and of course I was trying not to. However, now that we're here, my husband has been able to start doing more research to help me. And he came across some stuff about borax. So we started an experiment 6 days ago. Not using any steroids, but instead each morning and night he's applying to one side a saturated borax solution and the other side a saturated baking soda solution (as we'd read that some people found baking soda helpful). We've been taking photos in order to compare as we progress. As mentioned, we are on day 6 and there is honestly some change! My clitoris which was quite white has returned to pink. And while the whole area still has some white, the pink is really starting to move in more. The biggest changes are on the side with the borax, with some change on the side with the baking soda (but since some of the borax can get rubbed off on that baking soda side we can't say for certain that the baking soda is having a major effect). We are feeling optimistic about this and I will keep everyone posted. During the day I do continue to add vitamin E oil to keep moisturized.

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    What is your solution of borax? I read that it's comparably alkaline to baking soda. We've had a couple of mishaps here from people assuming more would be better. Both are very strong and abrasive full strength. There's also discussion online of the frequent confusion of natural borax powder with the pesticide borid acid and also boron.
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      Essentially what my husband did was a concentrate - he slowly added borax to water, stirring and dissolving until the borax would no longer disolve. It's called a saturated solution. He did the same with the baking soda. For application purposes he dipped a q-tip into the solution and applied it to the affected area. We read up quite extensively on the subject, and also read that many people are getting borax and boric acid confused (and boron). So people definitely need to make sure they're getting the right thing.
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      I just bought a kilo of this:    Borax Sodium Tetraborate Decahydrate 99.9%

      is it the right stuff?

      thanks.....

       

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      Hi there, I just Googled to make sure and according to the net, it is. There're several different names for borax and this came up as one of them. I doubled checked to make sure it wasn't another name for boric acid which is what you definitely do not want to use and it isn't.

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      Thank you.   I tried it yesterday and no adverse effects.....  In fact it mixed up much better than the polish one i bought off The auction site.

      Not used any steroid cream for three weeks now......  Though i told gynae that i was using bicarbonate of soda and they said......   There is no evidence it would work but they by no means have all the answers....  I didnt brooch the  borax.....   :-(.    

       

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      As I tell everyone, remember to take photos! It really helps to actually compare!! And don't give up, things will get better. And you're right, the doctors don't have all the answers. Most of them barely have any of them, and some have absolutely zero. But this site is a great resource, use it. Keep us posted and good luck!!

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      Hi Alistar, I am still symptom free after almost 2 months, no itching, biting or stinging, So thankful!!! I have been applying the Borax solution twice daily and I have also been placing a cotton ball soaked in the solution on me and

      leaving it there for 5-6 minutes or so. I have also been soaking for 10 minutes in a light Borax solution when I can.

      My clitoris is still fused and my question is how long does or can it take for the fusion to release? Can I be using the Borax to frequently? Any ideas would be appreciated.

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      Hi Joanna! So glad to hear you continue to be symptom free. That's awesome. As for the fusing, I  unfortunately  have no answer. That has been another happy side-effect that has come from the use of borax for me and for others. But due to the varying degrees of fusing, it's impossible to say how long it'll take. I feel like one of our contributors mentioned that she noticed some releasing after many many months...but she was quite advanced in her fusing. Mine didn't take long, but I have very very little. Try to let it go, continue with treatment, and hopefully some change will happen with your fusing soon! Thank you for letting us know how things are going! It's super beneficial for all when we share our experiences, it helps encourage others to give it a try!!

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      Thanks for responding, I will practice patience, I think that maybe my short-suit wink

      I am sharing my success with everyone, I have been SO Blessed by the Borax solution treatment and the Borax soaks!

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      I’ve read of this method. A paste was made of the borax and baking soda. Applied. No bath. And this person got rid of LS. 
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      where did you read this? I'd be interested to see. I find that if I make the solution too strong I get sore, so I'm wondering about it neat, but still curious to read about it.

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      I'm not sure that I believe the LS is gone permanently, but I wouldn't be surprised if what they did helped put it into remission. But like Bridge, I'd like to read about it. This site may not let you post the link to the article, so would you mind sending it in a private message?

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      Hi Joanna 

      Just wondering if you are still having luck with the borax solution and how long it took for unfusing?  

      Thank you. 

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      Hi Susan..I am in remission..

      Borax sits baths and homeopathic creams I used until cleared up...

      Had biospy and confirmed LS...never fused..so everyone is different...but I am paranoid now..it's been about 6 months now and completely normal...I suffered terribly use to cry...but at this time and place I am normal..

      Borax is my friend...used it

      Every day..hot as you can stand it about a teaspoon of borax and 1\2 teaspoon of baking soda. For about 15 minutes...worked for me...in remission and very Happy..

      Wish you the best Susan...let me know how you are doing

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      I got mine from Amazon ..went to the reviews first..worked. Out fine...Consider this my friend along with great care I received from my husband...

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      Sodium Bicarbonate from Amazon made by Prescribed for life.  1 teaspoon each borax and baking soda in a hot sitz bath for 20 minutes every single day until it cleared up...finally cleared up.....praise the Lord..

      also while doing that mixed Vitamin B and E oil in a bottle and applied this using a q tip..do not rinse... along using the sitz bath.  Vitamin B i believe you can get on Amazon also....Good Luck and hope you get better soon..

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      Hi Joann 😊

      So happy for you!! Another very inspiring testimony of the Borax method.

      i just started it a few days so far applying the saturated solution. Haven’t seen any change yet except it looks a bit shriveled. I will do the hot soaking bath along with it. ( I’ve had confirmation through biopsy over a month ago)

      I was wondering all theses ladies that apply or soak in Borax but then like you put creams or oils ect on after, won’t that take the Borax solution off rubbing on coconut oil or vit b , e, ? 

      Or do you all wait several hours later? 

      Thank you ??

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      Hi there - I'm not sure if I am making the solution correctly. In an 8 ounce glass of water i can only get about a teaspoon of borax to dissolve. Does that sound about right? Also, can I store the solution or so I have to make a fresh batch every day? Thank you so much!!

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      I only used borax in a sitz bath every day for 20 minutes..does dissolve must use hot water to melt it...helped me so much....used it until I was healed...did come back but used the sitz bath again with hot water and borax...and again. I am healed..no cure ..but borax. Is a lifesaver...try it that way...about 1-2 teaspoons of borax in a sitz bath of hot water every day for about 20 minutes a day...wishing you the best...but you will feel better soon...
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      Thank you so much. I am so stressed about this and the fusing (minimal but still scary). I hope it all clears up soon. I was using clobetasol for a month and it made everything so much worse and irritated.
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      New to this board: I found you by looking up urinary problems with LS. I couldn't believe how bad I've gotten in such a short time - I've had LS about 8 years with the anal itching waking me up at night. I have been using tacrolimus ointment 2x day/every other day, with a Yuvafem estrogen vaginal suppository every other day, some testosterone ointment on the tacrolimus off days. Needless to say, I have been steadily going downhill. I'll be responding to another poster on this board about cross-diagnoses - I have some psoraisis on my hands, and the past couple weeks I've been tearing my skin off. So, can you say Stress????? I noticed I've been having to strain when urinating this past week, took a look and almost passed out. It fused over so fast!

      THE BORAX. I just can't say enough for the borax experiment. I mixed it up as alistar described. I made sure I used a mirror, drenched the swab and gently applied. It started unfusing a small section right away - right while I was watching! I dried and waited about an hour to make sure I didn't have any terrible unforseen reaction...then proceded to drench a cottonball with the solution, and let it sit for 15 minutes. The difference is amazing. A larger portion has come unfused. I cannot say how long its been this bad, since I only had the urinary problem for about a week. I've applied a good cover of coconut oil and plan on doing the same again tomorrow. I just can't say thank you enough for the information - doctors know NOTHING compared to the ladies here. Thanks from the bottom of my heart!

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      We. are all stressed believe me..I do know. Borax.helps with LS... Got it from Amazon. "Prescribed for Life" Borax....try a sitz bath with the borax.......warmest water possible.....so soothing ...keep it up until you see results...at least once a day...wishing you the best...

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      Thanks!

      I have an appointment this week with a new Gyn. I plan on telling her about the borax. I have been using coconut oil after each bathroom trip and the itching is practically non-existent.

      I was prescribed clobetasol when I was first diagnosed. I used it for two weeks (the recommended time) but it only caused more irritation. When my dermatologist saw the tube (I always bring new meds to my appointments since my skin is so sensitive) and asked me WHERE I was putting it, she was horrified. That's how I ended up seeing her colleague, a cancer specialist who prescribed the Protopic (tacrolimus), Yuvifem estrogen tabs and the testosterone ointment. It just wasn't working anymore. she did say that things like the tacrolimus for auto-immune could stop being effective - it's why it was an on-and-off day type of use.

      Does anyone have any recommendations for ointments/creams I should be trying? I'm perfectly happy to stay with just coconut oil - but it does tend to sink in faster than I would like.

      Thanks again for all the valuable info here.

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      Hi Pat...if coconut oil is working for you..why stop it...I use what works ...and the coconut oil is working for you...I will tell you a secret...doctors do not believe in Borax treatments...which works for .most LS patients..no money to be made by the drug companies who want you on steroid medication which in fact never worked for me...if you need to tell him Do so...but my doctor put on the the steroid meds and didn't work for me ..the Borax medication treatments helped me tremendously...but you do what you want...they will probably want to give their own medication..steroids by the way are not good for you over long term.

      Wishing you the best....JoAnm

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      I agree. when I told the specialist that I was using borax she looked shocked and told need to stop and just use the steroid ointment only. of course I ignored her and I use a borax mix everyday twice a day and will not ever stop using it While it works for me!

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      Yes, the coconut oil is working, but I would like to find another natural ingredient that would make the 'oil slippery' effect last longer for overnight use. This morning I believe things were not quite as loose as they were when I did the second Borax treatment yesterday. The coconut oil just soaks in so fast.....maybe some beeswax mixed in?

      I'm telling the Doc (female) no matter what - yes, my first doc put me on clobetesol first and it just made me red and irritated. But maybe she'll end up seeing some poor unfortunate woman, like I was on Saturday, and she'll remember that someone told her about The Borax Experiment, found online. I needed to find a new Gyn anyway, since the guy I had just kinda poo poo'd me, was not very gentle, and p****d me off with his 'oh well, nothing to be done here' attitude. At least his nurse was sympathetic.....(eyeroll) I just want to be sure I dont have signs of any skin cancers there.

      thanks again, Pat

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      I did the two treatments yesterday, then did the soak for the first time this morning - yes, it did feel good! I plan on doing a treatment in a couple hours, then again at night. Treating this disease is surely a full time job!

      I'm with you - wild horses couldn't drag me away from this solution!

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      I know...doctors don't want you to use Borax...which works for almost LS patients...you use what works for you...they the doctors must help support the drug companies which supply the steroids..which can give you Cushings disease after long term use...you are smart not to use the steroid medication...good luck to you...wishing you the best...JoAnn

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      Hi I know the doctors are opposed to something that works......they don't want to hear it...but for me personally...it took me out of my misery......I know it not a cureall but it WORKS...glad you know better...long term use of the steroid they want to give all of us....can give you Cushings disease...also be careful using Borax ..but use it until you get relief...then lay off for a while ...but use it when the need arises...wishing you the best...right now I feel great...how long...I don't know...know Borax is my friend...JoAnn

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      Yet another unthinking doctor then. This unsympathetic approach seems to be all too common. Maybe we should all be saying 'Hoe would you like to have a disease that disfigures an intimate part of your anatomy and causes pain and irritation on a daily basis plus the worry of cancer on top of that?' I am sure it is precisely because they know so little about LS and have no cure or answers that they become dismissive, but that is not good professional practice. I also think they should listen alittle more to what we find useful : BORAX.

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      You are exactly correct...they the doctors are dismissive and treat us as though we are stupid and don't know what we are talking about...my own doctor wants me on the steroid program...no way the only thing that helped me is the Borax...will continue to use it...lets not forget the doctors work with the drug companies...they push the steroids on their patients..I wholly be live they don't know what they are talking about..and they get insulted when we mention Borax as a great treatment....they don't know how to treat LS and the drug companies say it's a steroid treatment...which never helped me...also long term use of this steroid...long term....causes Cushing disease....look it up..wishing all my friends on this site the best of health and keep up the good work.....and spread the word how good Borax is...not a cure ..but keeps LS at bay...we can go on with our lives...

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      Yes, I figured I'd give it a little rest at the end of this week. I found mixing coconut oil with some beeswax and olive oil makes up a nice paste that melts like the coconut oil, but does not soak in as fast. I think I'll be as aggressive as I can this week, then do just the soak and coconut oil/beeswax mix for the next week.

      It's funny how docs get all excited about using borax - which is just a mineral with salts. Baking soda is a cleaner - but it's in every baked good I make. They certainly like to protect the pharma biggies - shame on them. I can tell though that this is a rest-of-my-life process - I'll never be as lax in checking my condition as I was this past year - with dire consequences.

      Good care to all.....Pat

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      Also so surprising - the docs I have been to seem just so UNINTERESTED in finding some solutions for this problem. I guess it just does not affect enough of the women they see. My dermatologist is the only doc that looked for solutions - but they stopped working.

      Maybe we would qualify as one of those 'orphan' diseases, that no one wants to cure because there is no money in it. 😉

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      Dear KC....I don't know...I don't think it can hurt you...but I used it in sitz bath only...and it works..I was so sick...Borax made me so much better...my suggestion to you is do your research before injesting Borax...in this way you will have all the facts in your decision...take care my friend...JoAnn

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