Angelic not working for me, post-menopausal

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I am 56 and post-menopausal, I have had really bad symptoms for the last year but, have been experiencing them for at least the last 5-7. I had really bad acne and heavy periods so my doctor put me on Dianette, I have since found out I should only have been on it for 3 years max but, I was on it for 17! It was fab, no spots, great hair and periods were more contained. I started to get really bad migraine/ withdrawal symptoms when I took a break to try and come off and experienced clots, I bled for 2 weeks every month, flooded, it was difficult as still working. about a year ago my doc put me on the mini pill, he said I should not be on Dianette. no more periods but, on the downside my acne came back and my hair started fulling out. I have read forums on Dianette and this is ccommon, I have now controlled it by taking hair supplements and whilst it is thin, it is better to a degree. my main problem is that since I came off Dianette I stopped sleeping so I tried everything possible, herbal to start with, worked for a few days, then sleeping pills but, didn't make me feel great the next day, groggy, headaches, depression. I then tried Melotonin, didn't work at all. I walk 4kms every day by the sea and I workout regularly, I thought I was doing everything right. before I go on, I am going to tell you that I lost my mother to cancer 4 years ago, still find it hard to accept to be honest, she had breast cancer and then pancreatic cancer and Osteoporosis, I am sharing this so you get the full picture. So I am on the mini pill and trying different drops to make me sleep. Here the docs tried to put me on anti-depressants to help with the menopause but, I am not depressed, just tired and maybe a little down from not sleeping but, I am lucky enough to have the most amazing and supportive husband in the world.  I decided to go to a GN and go on HRT, I went for all the tests and found I had Osteopina (just out of normal) and high chlorestorol. I have been taking Menopace night which stopped the hot flushes but, didn't help with the not sleeping. The GN gave me the full examination and told me my uterus had shrunk. I went on Angeluq just 10 days ago, I worry if all my medications mix. So I take an Omega 3 tablet, a hair vitamin tablet, a calcium tablet, a chlorestorol tablet, Angeliq, Menopace night and sleeping drops, sounds a lot but, the doc says ok as mainly vitamins. The symptoms I get hit a high yesterday, I woke up feeling like I wanted to be sick but, was ok once I had breakfast, I had a runny nose which I put down to an allergy as it came on so quickly but, this is a known side effect. I experienced bad abdominal pains straight away, after 3 days I got an infection and then a bladder infection along with a yeast infection, I have sore breasts, red eyes and generally feel unwell. I didn't take one yesterday. I have now decided to try some natural patches to see if they help but, have to order online from the UK so will take a couple of weeks to get. I tried not taking the drops but, just laid there, I don't think they suit me anymore, they were ok to start with so I am going to take Sleepeze for now but, if anyway can suggest a natural sleep agent that works that would be fab. Obviously my body is yearning progesterone and oestrogen, I am not sure whether I should try another HRT tablet but, in the back of mind, I feel uneasy because of my mother. she had an hysterectomy at 32 and went straight onto HRT it was the thing everyone did in those days, she got breast cancer late 60's and died 79 years. Any advise will be gratefully accepted, thanks 😓 Nobody discusses the menopause here, ladies fight their symptoms in private, I am open, in the south they are terrified of HRT and avoid it but, I want quality of life, in the north, they are more educated on the whole menopause thing so will talk about it and take HRT.

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    Sorry your going thru all this , yes I have a great pill it's called theanine my holistic dr . Recommended anyways I love it ! I didn't want to take addicting sleeping pills, but had to take something because of you don't get good quality sleep everything intensifies due to anxiety , which is one of main problems, anyways , it's an herbal pill but my dr , also at hospital and sees lots of patients and told me she takes morning and 2 in evening hrs but I just take it at night and what a difference, sometimes ill take it during if its around the time I'm ovulating cause I become nuts , also herbal pills and acupuncture has helped tons!
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      Hi Becky you may want to try progressive muscle relaxation to help you sleep. I am sleeping much better since I am doing it. I try twice a day.

      I hope you will feel better soon.

      Magda

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    Hi Beckyboop

    I am terified of a lot of medications myself, I am terrified of Progesterone pill after only taking for two nights. 

    On Tuesday night I took it the next day I was feeling weak, not myself, had a headach all day, felt anxiety ridden all day jumpy, then on Wednesday night when I took it i was jumpy felt like I couldn't breath, then at 2:30 in the morning woke up my legs felt weak heart was racing fast calmed down after a while then took my thyroid after 4 in the morning was lying down I became really dizzy it really scared me. 

    Before going on HRT read up on it because HRT can make you bleed, yes it can raise your heart rate yes it can make you anxious it can raise your blood pressure too, it can make you have acne, it can make your hair fall out and skin discoloration is a side effect. 

    Think about it before you go on HRTs if you already suffer from anxieties and depression I would not advise going on an HRT because it will make it worse. '

    If you suffer from high blood pressure I do not advise you to be on HRT 

    If you have diabetes or a thyroid problem I would advise you do not use HRT. 

    If you had trouble with one HRT please do not go back on it this is what I advise talk to your doctor about SSRTs for your depression 

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      Hello Susan, thanks for responding. I feel great today, I have to say it! I didn't take the HRT tablet last night and already feel better so it obviously didn't suit me at all.. I am going to try some natural hormonal cream and the pill that Terri advised for sleeping. Sending grateful hugs and hope that you manage to find something that helps with your symptoms xx
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      Thats like me did not take my HRT and i feel better than I did Wednesday and Thursday . HRT is not recomended for relaxing to me it did the oppsite and yes it scared me my boyfriend could tell that my actions were slow like my talking, and just feeling of the anxieties there. I don't want to go through that again and my legs feeling weak and the feeling of me going to fall and being unstable can't deal with that. 
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      I don't think I am going to do HRT due to my high levels of anxieties, and having blood pressure problems and diabetes its under control and a throid problem. I think I am going to look up a place where I can do yaga and acupucture to help with things. Medication is not the answer to everything sometimes.

       

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    Beckyboop - Sorry Sweetheart, but you've floored me:  I have very little  to offer you luvsad, other than my complete sympathy and the reassurance that you're not alone.  I know they'll be someone on this wonderful forum who will offer up some great advice.  I love to read all the posts.

    I don't sleep well, haven't for ages. Generally because I'm up Peeing all bloody night - 4 times last nightfrown!!!  Also find I can't sleep when I have things on my mind/stressed = got that coming any day soon with legal work associated with property sales etc, etc.  Ain't looking forward to that at all, but a necessary evil.

    What I do and have found useful when I wake, fret, and can't get back to sleep, is keep a pen/notepad by the bed.

    I write down what's bothering me (usually some ol' cr*p I look at in the morning and think "Christ!  THAT kept me awake??!!").  I'd say most of the time it works, but not always.  Might that help?

    With regards the bellyache: I had some of that myself this week.  All I could think of was "Chocolate would make this pain go away"(!) but I persevered and off it went. Could that and all your other symptoms relate to your bladder infection: sound classic UTI symptoms.  I Pee that often (during the night mainly) that I don't think I'd know if I was going more often than usual.  After reading lots of threads, the UTIs seem to come hand-in-glove with so many of our other symptoms, that I'm waiting for mine to come any time soon! 

    Sorry, only think I've had one UTI in my life, so my only suggestion, aside from the antibiotics you'll probably need, is good ol' cranberry juice - oh, and some live, natural yogurt works wonders when you put it inside your Do-Dah (on a tampon for ease) for your yeast infection.....which will probably get worse with the anti-Bs (maybe some acidophillus for that?)

    Chin Up Kiddo.  Hope you get a really helpful response to your woes. smile

    Sx 

     

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      Hello Shaznay, I know how you feel with the peeing all night, I joked to my husband about getting a bucket! I find the 'not sleeping' a huge problem, one of my biggest, I have managed to control the other symptoms but, not this one. I actually do have a pad beside my bed Lol The cramps I think were associated with the HRT, I haven't had them today. I was only on it for 10 days so surprised the symptoms came so quickly and hopefully will clear up as quick. I really appreciate you ladies taking the time to respond and hopefully I will sort myself out soon 😘
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      Why can't we just have a toilet in our bedroom near the bed. Its really bad being up and down all night peeing. Been through it many time. Then once you think your are done peeing you have to get up again and go. 

       

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    Hi, just to say i had acne really bad on HRT i tried two, the tablet and patch,i looked like i had chicken pox and one time i was on holiday,lucky enough i only had 2 days lef. I ended up on antibiotics for 2 months,they have healed but i still got them in my head,i think this is due to sweating at night ,I dont no how to get rid of them but its embarrising.My hair started falling out too, but this is ok because i don't have to face my hairdresser.Trouble is im off to florida and scared they will come back so now im looking for suncream that wont clogg me up.Its never ending,but one thing im so much better with out the HRT,my body rejected it so now im on menopace and black cohosh,i feel so much better.
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      Hello Trudy, poor you, I know how you feel, my acne cleared up after anti-biotics, I hope they don't come back. I use Boots soltan sun cream with the insect repellant and have never had a problem with clogging and as I live in a hot climate I use it for a few months. Lucky you, have a lovely time in Florida, sending support 🌸 I am not going to try HRT again, had a terrible night last night x
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      thank you, i used to use that, but went on to piz buin. i go buy some try befor i go. Every time i took the HRT it scared me especially if i was on a flight,my mind would work overtime and i couldnt relax thinking i was going to get dvt.I said to my dr that i think my body was rejecting it,maybe i didn't need it after all, she agreed. like i say im so much better off, but the hot sweats do my head in especialy when i feel like im suffocating.
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      Menopace night darling xx ✌️ My mind worked overtime as I lost my mother to Cancer so maybe this scare was my guardian angel trying to tell me something! I guess I am just too vain, I could see I was ageing and my daughter is getting married in August, I will just have to wear plenty of make-up Lol
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      That is a side effect of the HRT, acne and hair thinning out. 

      May I ask what is menopace and is that over the counter or through a priscription and what is black cohosh and what do they do for you may I ask. 

      Are they both through a prescription from a doctor

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      I didnt no this was aside effect, thats why my hair is sorting its self out and my acne has almost gone.

      The menopace is at supermarkets i  bought my black cohosh from simply supplements, but you can get them in health food shops

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      menopace is nutritional supplement it has 22 suplements to help with menopause,it  Menopace also provides vitamin B12 and thiamin (vitamin B1), which contribute to the normal functioning of the nervous system .It does loads.Where are you from because i think its only in the uk.You can google it and it will tell you everythig.

      The cohosh is for hot sweats,but when i get hot flush i also get palpatations.Also try cutting out caffine,sweets and refined sugar this all helps.

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