Asked to speak to rude "counselor" on the side today....

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vicky and Kelly...lol...pay to come to my meetings.  There are people in there that cover their face when I open my mouth...lol.

One person approached me and said you don't have a problem speaking your mind and they loved it.

Anyway...I thought to be an ADULT...I would grab her before her one hour participation in the meeting....and ask if we could talk (BECAUSE she told me that we are not doing counseling right now because these counsleors are there to help us during this outpatient).

She tried to cut me off..said she was heading into the group and she would talk to me after group.  I said NO! This will only take one second.  I said if you don't listen to me there will probably be a scene - she said "ARE YOU THREATENING ME?"  I said AM I THREATENING YOU?  lol...I was stunned a minute..and then I said no...I'm warning you that I may have an outburst if you don't listen to me for one minute.  So she did...and then said....do you see what just happened?  

I said WHAT?  She said I told you after...and you intruded anyway.  I said yea, I see that ..but you told me that you were available and I still want to talk to you after.

So she said, OK...you think about what I said and I will think about what you said.  We agreed.

She goes in...and starts digressing...and I'm thinking you didn't have a minute for ME...but your OFF topic now...but I didn't say that UNTIL after the meeting. 

I have to continue what happened after later..cause I have to run to Dr. with b/f. smile

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    Am I missing something? That didn't make any sense to me? Sorry.
    • Posted

      no..read my other post below (if you want)...I was all over the place in the first one sad
  • Posted

    Missy, you sure sound agitated and angry, but I'm not sure what has happened
    • Posted

      I was super agitated and angry...but if you want read the full post below the first one was erratic.
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    Correct me if I'm wrong Missy.  I believe this all happened at outpatient counseling.
    • Posted

      Yes Kelly, the Outpatient.....the lady is not compassionate at all...lol
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    I am lost, Missy, but I gather it hasn't been an easy day.  I hope you will tell us more when you have time.

    You are so brave, I have never been able to stick up for myself, but it sounds as though you are more than capable of that.  I admire you.

    Sending hugs,

    Pat.

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      Sorry patricia...I was erratic when I posted that....look below for full story...I'm not mad at this woman anymore...I feel like a mature adult...defending the way we ALL should be treated in that group.

      There are 3 counselors...she is the most "harsh"

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    Wow everyone is right..I will start over ..my mind was super distrated during that post...on Thursday....I had raised my HAND to ask a question in group...and she called on me..and I was making a GOOD point (which I won't go into)...and she didn't listen to my COMPLETE thought...and cut me off in the middle and I was P*SSED.  We argued a bit..and she kept cutting me off!

    So today I wanted to approach her personally and tell her that her technique of cutting me off before I finished my point was not supportive of my recovery or anyone elses.  

    I thought to be an ADULT...I would grab her before her one hour participation in the meeting....and ask if we could talk (BECAUSE she told me that we are not doing counseling right now because these counsleors are there to help us during this outpatient).

    She tried to cut me off..said she was heading into the group and she would talk to me after group.  I said NO! This will only take one second.  I said if you don't listen to me there will probably be a scene - she said "ARE YOU THREATENING ME?"  I said AM I THREATENING YOU?  lol...I was stunned a minute..and then I said no...I'm warning you that I may have an outburst if you don't listen to me for one minute.  So she did...and then said....do you see what just happened?  

    I said WHAT?  She said I told you after the meeting I would talk to you...and you intruded anyway.  I said yea, I DO see that ..but you told me that you were available and I still want to talk to you after.

    So she said, OK...you think about what I said and I will think about what you said.  We agreed.

    She goes in...and starts digressing (instead of starting the meeting as she had told me the reason why she couldn't talk to me!)...and I'm thinking WELL, WELL, you didn't have a minute for ME...but your OFF topic now...but I didn't say that I waited UNTIL after the meeting. 

    After the meeting....I calmly told her that i wish she would take the constructive critisim and take accountability for shutting me off before i finished my thought yesterday. And I told her that I DID think about what I did by cutting her off as she was on the way in to teach the class...and then pointed out with a BUT...you then didn't start the class..so that actually made me feel like you just didn't want to HELP me.

    I did apologize for jumping her on the way into the meeting.  And I did tell her that if she is going to tell people like me that she is available for breif counseling moments...that she has to be specific with times...Like "I will set 5 minutes before and after a meeting or something".  I said you told me I could talk to you....I tried and you pushed me away and that reaction only upset and confused me more.

    We both agreed we had points..and ended on a good note.

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      Well done, Misssy, you dealt with this perfectly, you have my admiration.

      Pat.

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      Misssy, you crack me up. I think we are sisters under the skin. I have exactly the same kinds of problems in meetings.

      Am sending you a case of virtual malt loaves.

      When I've stopped laughing.....................

    • Posted

      hahaha...I don't think I would like malt loafs...I like bread...but what I read yesterday (other ingredients), which I don't recall...I wasn't excited.

       

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    Well done Missy.  We don't respond to challenges rationally when we're in a drinking frame of mind so your reasoned response to her shows to me that you're acting as a sober person. You're controlling events rather than letting them control you.  I wish I could do the same.  

    I don't post on here but I do like to look around. You seem like a very warm and kind person and I hope you carry on as you're going and don't slip back to the bad old ways.    

    Not much to say other than that, so best wishes.  

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      Thank you for  your sweet response....I had a handicapped sister growing up and I was her advocate...anytime I see someone getting treated as what I feel is improperly...I step in...by nature.

      I don't however do this very well when it comes to myself.  This whole event was about the woman dismissing another persons feelings about his situation in the group. I was watching him...and seeing the pain he felt...and I had to step in...and I knew I had to step in somewhat professionally and control my vocabulary without swearing..it was hard...lol

      Since I didn't do so well at controlling my behavior when she was shutting me down....I decided to address it 1 on 1....so she would LISTEN and not think it was an ACT put on for the group purpose.

      Her actions and dismal of this persons problems...really made me angry...and she had been dismissing others very quickly with their concerns for days prior to this incident.  

      i asked her after our (after group) conversation if she was willing to at least think about my comment about changing her style and trying to let someone finish a thought before budding in.....she did say she appreciated the feedback...but did not agree to stop doing it...LOL.

      But, I do know for a fact...when she does it again (its her nature)....she may realize now that she is doing it...and eventually someday curtail it.

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