AutoImmune Anti-Inflammatory Diet for PMR
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Hey everyone! Curious about thoughts or experiences on anyone who has or is practicing an AutoImmune protocol and if you think it has helped? Also looking for tips on how NOT to gain weight with steroid therapy😳😳...thank you in advance!
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Nefret muddyooch
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There are a few members who have begun strict diet protocols and I'm sure there will be one of those along soon.
I stick to a mainly Mediterranean diet and cut carbs where I can. I lost the first 2 stones of the 3 I picked up fairly quickly but the last stone is still there.
To put this into perspective, I have been on steroids for 16 years in varying doses and I think that last stone is a lost cause!
muddyooch Nefret
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EileenH muddyooch
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Avoiding carbs as much as possible has helped a lot of people on all the forums avoid/minimise weight gain and even lose weight while still on pred.
I gained a lot of weight due to PMR itself - 5 years of restricted activity and comfort eating towards the end of those years when I was practically housebound due to pain and having been told not to drive for another reason. With the pred it rearranged itself to the usual places and with a different steroid I gained more weight in about 5 months. On being switched to yet another form of steroid and starting a strict low carb diet I lost weight steadily, albeit slowly, and finally had lost 36lbs, all the pred weight and more.
Like Nefret, there is a stubborn 5kg I'd like to lose that won't go - but hey ho, that's life. I've had PMR for 13 years and been on pred for 8 - but I have weighed more than I do now whilst NOT on pred. I also use a Mediterranean low carb approach.
Many people have omitted/added foods to their diet - and the low carb approach is one version. Sugar is very pro-inflammatory so cutting it and simple carbs makes a lot of sense anyway. It also helps avoid developing steroid-induced diabetes and the weight gain - I posted a long explanation on one of the recent threads.
Depending on what other medication you are on, turmeric, ginger and garlic are available as supplements and are probably useful in cooking for anyone as anti-inflammatory substances. Oily fish is also beneficial. One lady on the forum used them and swears she could tell the difference when she missed them for any reason.
One lady did try the AIM (I think) diet and found it helped - but found it too restricting to be able to manage it long term so I would count that as a fail overall! That is the main point - it HAS to be an approach you personally can stick to for more than a few weeks. In fact this lady is now on different medication - and I suspect the jury is out as to whether it was PMR she had or not.
muddyooch EileenH
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Thank you Eileen! Super helpful information...I'm still in the "pre-diagnosis" phase...getting worse by the day...praying for a definitive dx soon...the more I research and inform myself the more convinced I am it isPMR that I am suffering from...I want to do as much as I can to help my body get through this naturally and with a good diet!
Anhaga muddyooch
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My approach is kind of ad hoc. Not following any precribed regimen. But owing to risk of diabetes I cut out virtually all refined carbs, especially wheat, and sugar and still eat very little althoug pred dose now very low. I had for years had a tbsp of food grade h*** oil every morning and continue this. I now also have a cup of ginger tea (fresh grated ginger) every evening, have been taking a kelp supplement and recently discovered the aloe which is occasionally recommended as an inflammatory. I'm a vegetarian. Would eat more fish but it now seems impossible where I live, ironically on the Atlantic coast, to find anything (other than smoked mackeral) which isn't either open pen farmed or a product of China or caught unsustainably.
muddyooch Anhaga
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Hi Anhaga! Ugh on the finding good clean fish...I just became educated on the farming issues...and I love fish!! I'm terrified of having blood sugar issues since Diabetes is in the family so I'm trying to wrap my head around reducing Carbs...I have been following a very strict AutoImmune Paleo so now I need to just zero in on the carbs...reading labels labels labels😩
Thank you for your input!
Anhaga muddyooch
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EileenH Anhaga
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Is there ANYTHING that isn't a product of China? It is rather nice here - there seems to be a movement to support home industry - loads of foods have labels saying "Italian"
That doesn't include salmon unfortunately...
Michdonn Anhaga
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Anhaga Michdonn
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It's the wild caught Pacific salmon which has suddenly become a "product of China". Presumably it's caught in the same place, off the coast of BC or Alaska, but is now processed in China and shipped back to Canada for consumption. That waste of fossil fuels is enough to stop me buying it.
Anhaga EileenH
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Eileen there is a movement to have landbased fish farimgin which would prevent the horrendous pollution problems associated with open pen. But that doesn't really solve the problem that fish farming, at least salmon, is unsustainable, because the fish have to be fed on ocean biomass anyway, so it's not reducing pressure on the ocean at all, nor, apparently, doing anything to improve prospects for the small remaining wild stock.
Michdonn muddyooch
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Hi muddyooh, I am probably going to sound like s wacko, but here goes.
My wife had been suffering from migraines for over 13 years, had to take
the hospital numerous times, they would give her meds intravenously to
Stop the attack. She was visiting a friend, who lent her a book to read, she
read some of the book and to me and said this guy thinks he can stop my
migraines. Some of what he is saying is way out there, what do you think?
Easy, I will start the diet with you stay on it as long as it does not affect my
sugar readings. I have a diabetes for 55 years this July, that I know of. First
diet and exercise, now for a longtime time oral meds. The BS readings have
been adversely effected. Removed all dairy, eggs, grain, meat. Added fruits,
vegetables mostly green leafy, wild caught fish. Guess what my SR went
down, how could this be I was eating sugar, I don't understand this at all. As
My wife read more she discovered that with some additional supplements
the diet could also address autoimmune problems. I am currently using
that diet. I am currently on 30 mg of Prednisone a day, SR are high, but not
as high as last year. My wife's migraines, not one in 49 days. She cannot
believe it and neither can I. I don't think I can say more than that on the
Forum. Good Luck!
muddyooch Michdonn
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Hi Michdonn!! That's fantastic news for you and your wife!! It's all about the food...and your story proves it! Best of luck to you in the future
donna25417 muddyooch
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alcohol it is a cleansing diet also and to see if it helped with my PMR lost 15 pounds , well I must say I felt so much better almost no pain at all. So April ate normal except no longer ate bread or drank soft drinks and although not a lot of pain there was some that returned , am now on Day 2 for another 30 days see how that goes .
muddyooch donna25417
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Hi Donna! Wow that is amazing...I know which foods are my triggers so it's just a matter of will power and making the choice not to eat the crap...but knowing something as simple as what we put in our mouth makes such a difference should make the choice easy...ugh
Best of luck to you!
donna25417 muddyooch
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muddyooch donna25417
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Donna-if you don't mind me asking-what is a sample menu for a day look like for you? I do miss eggs but I just cannot...dairy not good for me...
Michdonn donna25417
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donna25417 muddyooch
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Hi. I can eat eggs on this program so that is usually my breakfast with some fruit a banana or orange . For lunch I would eat a salad with just tomatoes and cucumbers maybe chicken if I have some leftover with vinegarette dressing. Can eat all meats except processed ones so lots of chicken, ground beef, ground chicken or turkey which is my dinners I eat potatoes , carrots, cauliflower can't have any legumes . I bought Natual spices one for chicken and an Italian one they are real good cook in a bit of broth so makes a nice juice with spices . Can't eat butter so use either coconut oil or ghee which is clarified butter tastes good on the veggies. I don't drink coffee or tea but found a nice juice that is made with natural sugars . And make smoothies from fruit and coconut milk pretty yummy. Eat a lot of red or green grapes that is now my snack instead of chips and chocolate i will message you the name of the program just google it lots of recipes on Pinterest also for it. It really makes me feel so good the first week was the hardest trying to figure out what I could eat but when I saw and felt the difference it was so worth it. Take care and keep us posted on your progress I love this forum so nice to share with others our journey
EileenH donna25417
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"Can't eat butter so use either coconut oil or ghee which is clarified butter"
How come you can use ghee but not butter?
Anhaga EileenH
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EileenH Anhaga
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donna25417 EileenH
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Michdonn EileenH
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