Back pain and IBS

just adding to the previous - does anyone feel that weight or level of fitness is a contributing factor ?

I have asked on different site, but do you ice cream sarnie know anything about Serrapeptase ? I have purchased them but dubious of taking them, heard few things about them ! Or anybody else if you know or have taken them.

Hi bigbloke. No I haven't had any dizziness or notice my stomach feeling hot but I do get fevers like everyday. Stress makes it way worse for me also. And exercise is supposedly good for it with some people. So I've been trying that out and eating a lot of fiber. (Metamucil)

**Rosie123 I have heard of Serrapeptase. It is a proteolytic enzyme which like other enzymes digest proteins. Papain (papaya) and bromelain (pineapple) are proteolytic enzymes found in fruits which have anti inflamatory effects by interrupting signalling proteins. They also are used in cooking for tenderising meat (proteins).

Serrapeptase is another similar type of enzyme linked to reducing inflammation and possibly reducing scar tissue/ dead cells of proteinaceous material. This I believe how it has got linked to reducing inflammation for back pain. This is how maggots clear dead tissue by using these proteins! Your body is full of these enzymes naturally.

Clinical randomised, controlled trials are apparently are few and far between in western medicine and show neither positive or negative results except in reducing mucus production, as in nasal infections or cystic fibrosis. Most of these studies are on Rats and I am not a rat! Bloody scientists!

However, this product in its many forms has been sold worldwide for two decades under strict licencing with no reported deaths or serious interactions, ever. Note. "Serrapeptase might decrease blood clotting. Therefore, taking serrapeptase along with medications that also slow clotting might increase the chances of bruising and bleeding."

You should take all medicines with caution but on the whole digestive enzymes arent at all dangerous in these doses. As fair number report benefits and there is no interest in the pharmaceutical industry from monetising natural plant medicines (cant patent them) you have to use your judgement in ascertaining safety. At worst you will turn into a moth or butterfly....lol

Maybe Serrapeptase and Bromelain could help IBS symptoms together but without a known cause its difficult to see the processes involved and how exactly it will help. What is causing the inflammation?

My other concern with supplements is quality of the source. Greed overtakes all other forms of ethical practices so you have to be sure that the ingredients are pure and not contain toxic substances, even if the medical studies points to it worth taking. Just check the source who makes it.

**Bigbloke. Most symptoms of ibs correlates to some anxiety symptons during bouts. Sweating, fever symptoms, dizzyness foggy thoughts and visual distress. Anxiety causes more adrenaline to be produced and with possibly addition of shallow breathing under pain, you may get these symptoms. I dont believe it causes back problems. I think here the nerve network in the gut is close enough to the back to cause sensitivity around the surrounding organs and spine. Also the trapped wind and bloating causes pressure internally. Its nothing to worry about generally, all part of ibs. i.e. you dont get foot ache do you!

Is ibs gut related and causes anxiety type of distress thus those symptons or is it anxiety related that causes the gut symptoms? What really is in our food and water anyway?

I have tried eliminating food sources individually and it doesnt have any effect at all. During a heightened episode even tap water gave me cramps.

Anyway, I have just installed a water filtration system at home that remove or reduce pathogenic cysts, parasites, harmful or unwanted chemicals such as herbicides and pesticides, VOCs, detergents, organic solvents, trihalomethanes, cloudiness, silt, sediment, nitrates, nitrites, heavy metals, flouride, chlorine, foul tastes and odours. Trace minerals are kept. I shall let you all know how I get on!

Thanks for your reply, I appreciate your advice, don't think I will start them yet, thanks again did make me giggle.

Hello there i'm new to this discussion but here goes.

Firstly i have lower left abdominal pain (tearing pain) stabbing pain under left lower rib and i also suffer from lower back pain.I find this all very tiring and hardd to concentrate at times but hey ho, i am now going to try the probiotic capsules combined with drinking dandelion coffee as somebody has previously suggested will let you know how i get on in due cause.Thought i had cracked it a few months ago by simply chewing my food more and drinking plenty of water and taking gentle exercise, well the relief lasted for a few weeks now im back to square one.

Anybody else have any tips?

start eating more fiber, I take the "off brand" of Metamucil. and talk to your doctor, they put me on med that slows down bowel movements and helps with anxiety really well, and its working pretty well so far.

Digestion is governed by nerves which come from the spinal cord. The sympathetic nervous system (which emerges from the spine from between the shoulder blades down to the waist) slows down the digestive process and the parasympathetic nervous system (which comes from the top and the very bottom of the spine) speeds up digestion to return it to normal levels. If the spine is restricted in movement in any area this can affect the nerves emerging at that level and can result in impaired digestion.

Whilst there are no clinical trials to demonstrate the effect of manual therapy (such as osteopathy or chiropractic) on IBS, there are many supportive case studies. I would say that if you are looking for a natural approach, then I would say it is worth giving osteopathy or chiropractic a go. Look for a chiropractor or osteopath who is registered with either the general chiropractic council or the general osteopathic council. Some chiropractors and osteopaths offer free appointments to discuss whether they can help you.

After the first treatment, you can feel some discomfort the next day (usually muscle soreness like after going for a workout in the gym) but stay with it for a few sessions. Usually you should have noticed some improvement in your back pain and possibly the IBS symptoms within about 4 sessions.

I have a couple of friends who have really benefitted from this type of treatment.

I have suffering from IBS for bout 3 years and having trying all sorts of medications and diets but to no avail . This time I have finally got cured in merely a span of bout 1 month...

dere888 how did you cure your I.B.S ?

I took Unani medicine, they are herbal medications which fixed my GI disorder and its related symptoms once and for all. I was quite surprised by the speed of recovery I had from these medications, although I had to follow a strick diet for that. I am still taking the medications but 90 percent of the symptoms are eradicated and I am absolutely certain that there won't be any relapse.

suffering from this condition about 10 years ago

always have upper abdominal pain especially my right side plus horrible back pain especially right side too

tried a lot of medication with no use of it ... until I tried SULPIRIDE and MEBEVERINE they make small improvement ... then I decided to drink more water this make more small improvement

get into this forum see some ppl written about "aloe vera" then tried it >>> really makes the big improvement

advice ppl with IBS to give it a try ... wont loss any thing

I have severe lower back pain. my stools are never normal, either diarrhea or constipation and stool is always small and divided. can it be IBS? i am afraid its not colon cancer. The pain only goes when i pass full stool, else it remains.

Sarah,

For a quick fix Meberevine 135 can help. Its trade name is Colofac and sold in chemists.

Sounds like IBS but of course get the doc to run some tests / examination to rule out anything serious.

I have tried oats, glutamine, probiotic and digestive enzymes supplements with some improvement.

Small meals but regular intervals which doesnt stress gut motability and avoids cramps.

Usually bowel movements actually stop the pain as you have found.