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gary12925
gary12925

Stopped taking bisoprolol 4 days ago because of the mountain of side effects started taking nebivolol at night feel ill on off though out the day ... change it taken it this morning and 2 hours later feel lightheaded brain fog and tired ....  can it really start that quick 

Had enough of all this 

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  • julie62748
    julie62748 gary12925

    Posted

    I am amazed at the number of complaints for this drug and yet it is still being prescribed. I take metropolol as a beta blocker  and have no side effects.  My cardiologist says it is very safe. In our country (Australia) bisoprolol does not appear to be used much at all . Apparently it is also a very expensive drug. 
    • gary12925
      gary12925 julie62748

      Posted

      Hi thanks for your reply in the uk biso  the cheapest that's why they give it out first that what I have been told .... and yes a lot of people r asking why bisoprolol is continued 

      Thanks 

    • harriet67221
      harriet67221 julie62748

      Posted

      Hi There are loads of drugs that are dangerous, have serious side effects being prescribed all the time. You are lucky. What dose of metoprolol have u been taking if you don't mind my asking?

      What is it prescribed for? 

      Thanks.

    • julie62748
      julie62748 harriet67221

      Posted

      to slow heart rate down it runs at about 90 it used to be 50 before I had ablations.  I'm not sure why it has sped up but Ive got used to it. My cardiologist thought the increased rate might cause AF hence the Metropolol but I only take a small dose 25 mg once a day. I will stop that soon too.

  • elizabeth_12
    elizabeth_12 gary12925

    Posted

    Honestly I know how you’re suffering. It’s so hard to withdraw from this medication. Try to be brave...you can do it, but you’ve got to get through this horrible stage. It’ll will get better, but the withdrawal symptoms will come and go less frequently. Keep remembering how awful those side effects were whilst taking the betablocker! 

       I’m still angry that I was put on this med, no acceptance of my concerns of side effects...for so many years. I’m so pleased that you have recognised the cause of you’re side effects and are taking steps to eliminate these. 

       You can do it. 

  • harriet67221
    harriet67221 gary12925

    Posted

    Hi again The short answer is yes it can. I would discuss this with your dr. He may be able to suggest an alternative treatment. I am unsure why the beta blocker was prescribed but there is often an alternative, take care.
    • gary12925
      gary12925 harriet67221

      Posted

      Thanks once again  and put on biso hi blood pressure and fast pulse rate 
    • harriet67221
      harriet67221 gary12925

      Posted

      There are other treatments available which may be more suitable. If you discuss any alternatives with your dr. Sometimes raised blood pressure can be controlled by weight loss, diet, exercise. Take care.
  • denise41938
    denise41938 gary12925

    Posted

    Hi Gary, I don't know anything about this Nebivolol, but just had a brief look on line.  Have you read your leaflet to see about contra-indications?  I confess I am guilty in not reading (in the past), but do now.  I don't know if you are in the US, but if not certainly in the UK the pharmacies are open in the supermarkets.  It'll do no harm to go and ask them .... they are usually very good.  The Bisoprolol does that to me and that's the reason I am now struggling as I reduced my dose by half to 1.25 mg.  I know everyone says you shouldn't mess with your medicines, but no one was listening - there's simply no one there I find, so I took it upon myself.  I wouldn't recommend anyone else doing what I've done, but I've reached the stage whereby I either have some sort of a life - brain-wise/no fog, being able to think and function.  It's horrid to feel like that - I sympathise with you 100%!  Pop along tomorrow - or should that be later today as it's gone midnight!  Let us know what they said?  Thanks.

    Kind Regards

    Denise

    • harriet67221
      harriet67221 denise41938

      Posted

      Hi I think the info is also available online.  From what I can gather there is no safe beta blocker.

      Also there is a group called bisoprolol buddies.

    • elizabeth_12
      elizabeth_12 denise41938

      Posted

      I decide to do exactly what you are now doing. I couldn’t get anyone to listen either. It’s a scary thing to do without docs approval and a tough decision to make. I’m not advocating that people should taper or stop taking the Meds,  us like you I wanted to feel...that I had my life back. 

         As I said earlier...withdrawal was very difficult...I’d been on betablockers for 6 years. I persevered..cutting the tablets little at a time. I’m now free of those awful withdrawal effects and beta blocker side effects. 

        Keep us updated on how you’re doing. I’m with you 100%.

    • gary12925
      gary12925 denise41938

      Posted

      Hi thanks for the info will go tomorrow as I am in the uk and see what they say

      Thanks again 

    • denise41938
      denise41938 elizabeth_12

      Posted

      I'm glad you're fine Elizabeth.  No side effects to endure, but how's the heart if you don't mind me asking?  Mine is far from good and the arrhythmias continue +++.  I noticed last April when the Paramedics came out and left me my ECG strips, that it said I had had an Apical Infarct (Heart Attack).  I eventually went to see the GP, but couldn't get an appointment so left it with the Receptionist.  A recent Echo reveals changes to the apex in the heart, which rightly or wrongly tells me that the ECG must have been right, but the Consultant is going to ignore that result as he says the MRI was fine.  All that said, thankfully my brain is functioning to a huge degree, but I feel I daren't stop it altogether.  Anyway, that aside it would be interesting to know what your heart is doing now ...... I imagine it must be fine, but please let me know?  Thanks.

    • elizabeth_12
      elizabeth_12 denise41938

      Posted

      Honestly..I’ve no idea how my heart is functioning except that I have a fib permanently. I put up with the anxious feeling , and occasionally check my blood pressure and pulse. I’ve never been informed of any of my ecg readings or 24 hour monitor. None of my doctors or cardiologists have discussed this with me. Writing this post I feel foolish not to have persisted with my questions. Reflecting on this,I can see that in my case it wasn’t a case of enlightenment but rather one of them making decisions without any input from me. Unbelievable...but true. I was trusting of their knowledge and expertise. I regret this now,but I’m now burying my head in the sand except that I do not take any betablockers. 

       I recently had a yearly check up..practice nurse. I’ve not had any results and trying to get an appointment...well!  I have very little trust in my surgery.. now depleted to 2 doctors and not 5! 

         I’ll keep a check on...BP and heart rate . My biggest problem is backache. I’ve never had trouble before I was put on rampril, beta blocker and rivaroxiban. The cause maybe weight gain,sitting too much and bad posture... result of taking bisoprolol for years.

        You are so well informed and rightly so. Also you must have doctors that inform you. My practice is in a disadvantaged area,so I’m wondering if our doctors think that they are in control...nanny state comes to mind. 

    • harriet67221
      harriet67221 elizabeth_12

      Posted

      Hi Do you think codeine and beta blockers are contra indicated and/or exacerbate the side effects of bisop?
    • elizabeth_12
      elizabeth_12 harriet67221

      Posted

      I’ve no idea on this one! I never have taken codeine and very rarely do I take paracetamol. I put up with the backache...just keep sitting down. Before I retired I had a job ...ie teaching...and was on my feet all day. The backache started when I was put on bisoprolol. I then had shaky legs, couldn’t stand,walking as if I was in treacle and backache. I was still teaching but had to keep sitting down. So now...thinking about it..as I do.. the backache May be due to bad posture...trying to compensate for the wobbly legs etc! Who knows! I know I’m better without the betablockers and thankfully I found this site. A Godsend for me. 
    • harriet67221
      harriet67221 elizabeth_12

      Posted

      Hi Thanks for your reply Elizabeth. I asked about codeine because it was the start of major problems after it was prescribed for a dislocated shoulder following a seizure. I only took 2 tablets a day then got down to 3 to 4 a week, yes a WEEK. I severe migraine with pain in my right eye for five months together with severe anxiety, depression ,  agoraphobic one day, afraid of being alone even when someone in the house but in another room the next day. I went to A and E as I thought I was having abreakdown. The A and E dr said no I had pleurisy and prescribed 3 different types of antibiotics. 5 days later I woke up with very heavy legs, back pain. Never recovered since then, that was the start of the neuropathy.

      Fast fwd five months, I had the sense to go privately only to be told that the codeine was responsible even at the very low dose of 3 to 4 a week, I felt gobsmacked. The neurologist said he meets hundreds of people with a similar history and that I have analgesia induced chronic migraine. He said codeine makes the brain and eye swell, suppresses the endorphins and also causes dry eye syndrome, eye concretions.

      10 days after stopping this poison the headaches subsided considerably and my eyes started to  recover, the psychological effects remain however and the thought of going through all that is just too daunting for words.

      I was already taking cardicor 1.25 mgms a day but wonder if the combination of all these drugs has caused the severe reactions to other drugs> ?

      ?Codeine is a vile drug and I was very careful using it. The neurologist said that it is an opiate and should not have been prescribed for headaches . ( I was told to take it for headaches as the shoulder pain was getting better).

      ?Needless to say I would never touch codeine or any opiate ever again. Sorry for the long post.

    • denise41938
      denise41938 harriet67221

      Posted

      Hi Harriet, I have no idea if you are in the UK or not, but either way I think it is best to check with your Pharmacist.  I've had a brief look ..... contraindications after say 5 days may take effect.  This was just by googling it, but of course the Americans are the first to give you first hand information, unlike here in the UK.  I switched to UK and it became a joke.  Better be safe Harriet  ..... do let us know.  (You may wish to use Google, rather than take it from me?)

    • denise41938
      denise41938 harriet67221

      Posted

      Hi Harriet, I have no idea if you are in the UK or not, but either way I think it is best to check with your Pharmacist.  I've had a brief look ..... contraindications after say 5 days may take effect.  This was just by googling it, but of course the Americans are the first to give you first hand information, unlike here in the UK.  I switched to UK and it became a joke.  Better be safe Harriet  ..... do let us know.  (You may wish to use Google, rather than take it from me?)

    • harriet67221
      harriet67221 denise41938

      Posted

      Thanks Denise. Could you please PM the link to me.  I am unsure what you mean by after 5 days etc. Sorry. Could u elaborate. Thank you
    • denise41938
      denise41938 elizabeth_12

      Posted

      Hi Elizabeth, is that Atrial Fibrillation that you have?  That rivaroxiban was most dreadful for me - it made me so ill I took myself off it.  That was only last summer/autumn time and I only endured it for about 6-8 weeks.  I was told I had some Atrial Fib. which is why I was put on it and was also scheduled for ablation.  Without boring you stiff, I was introduced to another hospital to have it done, but the new consultant decided he wasn't convinced.  After the rivaroxiban I was put on something else and that was dreadful too.  I've never taken any medication all my life, till the heart issues back in March 2012.  I'm at the stage Elizabeth whereby if I can't have a brain and function, then life isn't worth living. 

      The doctors don't want to talk to us Elizabeth and I think they think the less they impart, the less work they have to do and we just accept it.  Unfortunately or perhaps fortunately for me, I used to be a Staff Nurse and they hate having to deal with me.  I'm time consuming because I want to know and they know I can check things, but that doesn't mean I get any care.  It is lacking enormously.  Tonight I was talking to my brother when suddenly I felt I was going to pass out - it was the most dreadful experience.  There's no one here and that's really hard for me.  I used my ECG machine, could see the strip and used my Linq Reveal scanner  - (for want of a better word) and downloaded it to the hospital.  I'm feeling alright now, but I must admit I was frightened, really frightened and there's nothing you can do when it's your heart, is there? 

      I'm going to have a little dig about backache and your meds ..... last year I came across the BNF Website (British National Formulary) - the Regulators for want of a better word for medicines and in there you will find more info, than you do on the leaflets in our little packets. 

      Catch you tomorrow, hopefully.

    • david57715
      david57715 elizabeth_12

      Posted

      Dear Liz, I too had af, but was put on bp pills because of it, amlodipine, bad reaction, perindopril, bad reaction, bisoprolol, because it contained my af and helped bp. Have since discovered my af and bp was down to gluten intolerence! Drs did not agree and now have to deal with biso withdrawal but I know that's the problem, but the withdrawal is awful even after just 2 weeks. What a horrible poison and they keep telling me I need drugs or risk death!

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