Both shoulders

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Hi everyone, 

I've just developed FS in my second shoulder, and knowing what I went through with the first one, I'm really dreading it. That was 5 years ago (at age 37), shortly after giving birth, and it's still not completely better. So far, the second shoulder is following a different path of onset than the first- onset is far more prolonged and missing the severe spasms. The first time was absolutely unbearable pain and this one is just more annoying and not so bad.  Do you think I just had an extreme case last time? Or is there such a thing as a mild case of FS?

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    Some very interesting reply’s .. 

    I’ve had 2 steroid injections , both last approx 10 days .. I am now waiting for an arthroscopic capsular release in 2 weeks time .

    I’ve had FS since last June .. mild /moderate symptons for 2 months then severe ..

    Without any history of trauma or previous shoulder procedures the main reason for this condition seems hormonal or secondary to diabetes ..

    I am a health care professional myself , but still struggle to relate to this awful condition ...

    Good luck guys xx

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    I had frozen shoulder. It was 9 months of endless pain. Then I got it in the other shoulder. After a night of not sleeping a minute I went to the doctor for drugs, which he gave me but he also suggested I see a physical medicine doctor who does hydroplasty. Since I would have done almost anything to get out of the pain I went.

     

    This dr suggested hydroplasty. First he injected the shoulder with lidocaine and another “caine”. No pain! I couldn’t move my arm but at least I was out of pain.  Then I came back 10 days later and he injected saline into my shoulder. A physical therapist was outside the room pacing the hall. The doctor turned me over to the therapist   who began and pushing my arm up. I had told both of them they could do whatever they needed to to get me out of this. And within a month or so I was almost back to normal.

    When  fs came around the second time I read virtually everything about how to treat it but never came across hydroplasty. 

    If if you are in this pain run to your dr for HYDROPLASTY. It saved me months of agony. 

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      It would seem that "hydroplasty" is another name for hydrodilatation - also known as hydrographic distention (and a few other similar names).  Basically, trying to release the frozen shoulder adhesions with saline - and usually the addition of cortisone.  I've never heard of it being done quite the way you describe - but the basic idea and results seem the same.

      My hydrodilatation was done in one treatment.  An anaesthetic injection was followed immediately by the injection of saline and cortisone, under pressure, to try to release the adhesions.   Physio was not advised immediately but a course of gentle physiotherapy started a few days later.  This worked for well  me! 

      Whichever way it is done, it seems a good way of treating frozen shoulders for many people.  Glad to hear this worked well for you!

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      Hi Maria

       I have been in absolute agony for the last week with what I suspect is a frozen shoulder, I have absolutely all the right symptoms and both my mum & aunt had one at my age, kind of been expecting it... Googling around I came across you and I have to say you have given me faith in the middle of the night. I am female 48 and live in London btw. Anyway I have found a place that offers the injection in Wimbledon ''Specialist Shoulder Injections (FROZEN SHOULDER Hydrodilatation'' and i am going on Thursday. Will report back. If I just suffer this heinous condition for one week or so I will be the luckiest frozen shoulder sufferer alive. I dislocated the shoulder when I was 15 and it has caused me minor trouble all my life, but have never been to a doctor. I almost never go to doctors if I can possibly help it. Its my right arm and I am right handed and as you know it is so debilitating. Anyway the injection is performed by a Dr  who is a Radiotherapist and costs £325 in total. Which is a bargain compared to other places. I will let you know how it goes, I sincerely hope he is a miracle worker and can help others here. 

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    I wonder when this treatment began. Twenty years ago I had never heard of it and no doctor mentioned it. It sounds like a good option. Waiting three years for a thaw was not great for me.
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    I think your second shoulder may be how both my shoulders started. One started earlier but both arrived at Frozen Shoulder status about the same time

    From looking on line it looks like Frozen Shoulder covers a range of symptoms and differing stages or events to get to that point. Both my shoulders were diagnosed as Bursitis to start but then graduated to Frozen Shoulder over 2-3 weeks. Restriction on movement had not been as severe up to this point. Now both shoulders ache. Can only lift arms a little(tricky getting deodorant on) and nothing behind back. Fell over getting off couch 2 weeks ago and put arms out to catch me. Almost passed out I think. Screaming and swearing helps. Problem is doing things without thinking.eg throwing umbrella in car quickly to get out of rain. 3-4 minutes of screaming later lift my head up from seat. In between these events pain not severe and not on any medication. Waiting to hear back from specialist. Looking at key hole surgery. Think it is called arthoscopic capsule release.

    Wondered what you did to treat your first shoulder.

    Hope to do right one first.

    Currently on restraint of trade leave from moving jobs until May 7. Was planning to paint house, fish and do some running. Can't do any of these things. Can't sleep as get back pain sleeping on back and can't sleep on side.

    Probably not much help to you but thanks for letting me unload. Quite helpful to write it down and also to see there are other people out there with similar issues.

    Terry

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      I'm sorry to hear.  An update to this is that the 2nd shoulder did eventually become as agonizingly painful as the first- it just maybe took a little longer to get there.  Or maybe I was just more aware from the start.  I got hydrodilation done within 3 weeks of the severe pain starting, and now it has gone away completely.  I'm not sure if this will be permanent or not though- the disease process may still be trying to take hold.  I'm considering actually getting this done on my first shoulder, which although it was 5 years ago has never really healed properly.  I did nothing to treat my first shoulder, just cortisone injections for the pain, and waiting it out for the thawing. 

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      I found this totally depressing that you've done nothing to the left and even after five years it's still there. I'm currently treating my two frozen shoulders with the "do nothing" option, and to hear of someone who has done that, and failed, is extremely depressing. Sigh. I hate this disease. 

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    Well, it is now 4 months since my OAT, recovery has been long and at times I really wondered if I had wasted money. But, I am pleased to say the freezing has eased and the only thing preventing full range of motion is my torn rotator cuff. Actually I have torn rotator cuff in both shoulders. But, exercising of the non-frozen side equally with the previously frozen side has so far prevented it also to become frozen.

    I saw an ortho surgeon May 17th and was sent for bilateral ultrasound. The day following the ultrasound, the surgons office called me to schedule a follow up appointment. So I guess I will know what the damage is when I see him. At my first appointment, my shoulder had been injected with cortisone a month prior and I was able to demonstrate good range of movement (95%) . Now this is 11 weeks since the cortisone and my range has dropped back to 85%.

    So, my concern is if I do need surgery, can it be delayed and when it will be scheduled for. I really need my shoulder in action for a trip to Florida in November (for the whole month) after that, let him do what he will smile 

    My understanding is that this surgeon in the best arthroscopic surgeon around, so I don't want to go against his recommendations.

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