BPH, Ejaculation and Prostate Massage Therapy
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Wondering if anyone has had established benefit from Prostate Massage Therapy. My husband has BPH of moderate nature and his PSAs are normal. Married 38 years, after a period of inactivity due to very painful hip problems, I finally am back in the saddle again, ready to re-kindle a very active sex life like we're 20 again. However, husband can't hold an erection hard enough for penetration. He has not ejaculated in a year or so, he says. šI am a medical professional but not in the male urological area. I read much about Prostate Massage Therapy. It is not widely talked about. The aim is the express prostate fluid separate from ejaculation fluid - in order to relieve congestion of the prostate, clear out crystals that may be blocking canals, any build up of minerals and other matter. I am developing a method of Prostate Massage Therapy for my man, which will be mutually beneficial. According to Harvard research, this is scientifically proven to be beneficial. Has anyone followed prostate massage therapy protocols and had success in expressing the seminal fluid followed by successful ejaculation this way?
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uncklefester DrHornyEve
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I've read, I don't if its true, massaging the prostate can spread infection. I'd be interested in what you find out and how it works. How old is your husband? What makes you think prostate massage will help with erections?
hank1953 DrHornyEve
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Has he tried Viagra or Levitra or Cialis ?
DrHornyEve hank1953
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Avoiding drugs. They can play havoc with your blood pressure and heart. Trying more natural routes first. He did try viagra in the past for sex on demand with me, so it is successful. However, he has a prostate issue to, so I would like to address both at the same time.
Thank you for your reply!
derek76 DrHornyEve
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Viagra was developed for the heart but I preferred Cialis due to its longer window and its help in urinating.
Many cardiologists take the daily Cialis for its cardiac benefits.
hank1953 DrHornyEve
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Not sure about Levitra but both Viagra and Cialis have been prescribed daily for prostate issues as well.
derek76 DrHornyEve
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I'm told that is a popular service offered by German sex workers.
DrHornyEve derek76
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The ancient Chinese, Egyptians, etc.
Oh! They prod males' prostates internally for ejaculate in the animal breeding world.
Nothing new.
derek76 DrHornyEve
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Even Frankel ??
MichaelVM7 DrHornyEve
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Did the Harvard research include a controlled study?
I've researched this but found little in the medical literature, mostly anecdotal evidence and sales pitches for male prostate massage devices.
I discussed prostate massage with a world renown surgeon and cancer researcher. He found no benefit from it, but perhaps a homeopathic doctor might disagree.
I did try it but it only raised my PSA.
BPH and meds to treat it will produce both ED and RE
Have him try sitz baths. I am convinced the process of ejaculation does remove toxins that might accumulate in the prostate.
For many reasons my wife and I have had a virtually sexless marriage for 12 years. In that time my prostate has probably quadrupled in size and QoL has suffered
If your husband does benefit from massage please share with us
Wishing him the best,
Michael
DrHornyEve MichaelVM7
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THANK YOU MICHAEL!
Having a healthy relationship for all these years has been wonderful. The sex part, even better. Now with age and age-related issues, sex is still a part of our relationships. I think my husband is embarrassed, so I'm going to try the talk to him first and then set the stage for a sensual but clinical approach. I wrote notes on this thread.
Many men have messaged me saying they have benefitted from it so much (and they are in their 50's and 60's, so I am watching the ages (my husband is 73).
Clinically, he can attain an erection that feels hard enough to continue, but then loses firmness prior to introduction. Could be performance anxiety too. So I will approach it calmly with him and see if he consents.
Let's hope!
derek76 DrHornyEve
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" Clinically, he can attain an erection that feels hard enough to continue, but then loses firmness prior to introduction. Could be performance anxiety too "
Someone posted a similar problem here or on another Forum.
His wife encouraged him to seek medical help and he was sent to an NHS clinic. He had a lot of tests and talked his problems through with a therapist. It was suggested that it was because he no longer found his wife attractive that he was losing his erection and They said they could provide him with a surrogate. Furious he stood up and declared ' I love my wife ' and stormed out.
DrHornyEve derek76
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You made me laugh. š
We discussed the subject of using a penis pump this evening. I didn't check today's mail yet (boxes arrived), but I told him to bring it upstairs to our bedroom and open it for me. That's a good sign.
We've had a very active and wonderful love life to accompany a wonderful marriage. Worth a shot!
derek76 DrHornyEve
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The pump is a better option than poking pills down his penis or needles into it. Though anyone on blood thinners has to be careful of bruising from the band. The NHS used to have an approved pump that it issued but it seems to have gone from the market.
Have fun!
glenn77 derek76
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I think it depends on an individual's situation. I already have the artificial sphincter, which compresses the urethra with a small cuff around the urethra, located in the perineum area. I had tried Viagra (generic) and the stuff head and slight sinus pain was a downer, along with the fact the medicine didn't really do the job. I then tried the pump, and found that the compression band (I have a full set of sizes) was not comfortable. I think maybe the five surgeries I needed after the botched Greenlight TURP affected my sensations. Finally, I tried the injection, found that self injecting was something I could handle, and the result was excellent, even at my age.
derek76 DrHornyEve
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Two other thoughts for you. I went into AF after having my aortic valve replaced.
The second cardioversion worked and I stayed in NSR for 15 months until I had a colonoscopy that stimulated my vagus nerve. Back in sinus rhythm for over a year until I had a DRE . Again my vagus nerve stimulated and back into AF that is now permanent so consider that factor when contemplating prostate massage.
I once asked the practice nurse if Amiodarone or Bisoprolol were the most complained about drugs.
She said no that is Tamsulosin.
I said, Yes, by men
She replied No, by their wives.
DrHornyEve derek76
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Ahhhh...... Cardiology is my specialty!!! LOL It truly is.
My husband does have a problem with vagal nerve stimulation. Most men have that problem, believe it or not. Today's session went well, no problems. I am going to coax him into the knee-chest position for better drainage and see how he feels about direct stimulation. He's been turned off in the past about it (we tried a few decades ago and he was not comfortable). I bought anal beads which are water-proof and activated remotely. Once properly positioned, that should be quite beneficial.
uncklefester DrHornyEve
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I can't wait to hear the After Action Report š
MichaelVM7 derek76
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Derek
Yes, tamsulosin (Flomax) is a bear. I believe the incidences of ED and RE are much higher than the literature suggests.
I'm heavily leaning HoLEP just to get off Flomax for life. Flomax makes you pay a huge price just to be able to pee.
Michael
derek76 DrHornyEve
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Perhaps I should bring my cardiology problems to you š
When it first became a problem I had a terrible time with our local hospital. I sent a letter of complaint to the head of cardiology. He invited me to a meeting and put his hands up to all of my points and said what he was doing to improve things and that in future I would always see him. This was in 2011 and I've only seen him twice since. At my recent appointment I asked the nurse if I was seeing him today. She said No and I said that I have not seen him for six years. Neither have we she responded š He is a professor now and spends time at major London hospitals. He does pop up a lot on the local News demonstrating new procedures.
Not just men with vagal problems. I had a conversation with the ward sister when having my pacemaker fitted. She said that female patients often have a problem after getting up in the night to go to toilet and stagger out.
My pacemaker experience!!
In March 2015 in AF for the third time after two previous
cardioversions and with a seven day ECG monitor also diagnosing tachy
bradycardia with 3 second pauses in my heart rate I was told at the end of May
(2015) that I needed a dual chamber pacemaker as a matter of some urgency. I
had asked the cardiology secretary and also the nurse and doctor at the pre
assessment if I would get an MRI compatible one as I have recently had two MRI
scans and probably need a third one. They said that that was up to the doctor
doing the procedure.
I arrived at the hospital at 8am on Friday (July 5th
2015) rather apprehensive about the procedure although viewing ones on YouTube
it seemed a very straightforward procedure. The letter had said no food after
midnight but that you could drink unlimited black tea, coffee, water or very
diluted fruit squash. I had two mugs of green tea around 6.45 but that seemed
according to the nurse to have been a no, no and I was not allowed any more
water to drink and was getting rather thirsty by the time in went into the Cath
Lab around 10.45.
I had been told that I was the only patient having one on
Friday but another man had been added to the list as an urgent case as he had
been found to have a heart rate in the 20ās. He went in first and I was
relieved when he was wheeled back in after the procedure that he was sitting up
looking well and smiling and that his heart rate was already beating away at a
regular 70 bpm.
When I went in the four staff introduced themselves. The
doctor doing the procedure was a different consultant from the one I had
expected. I asked if I was getting an MRI compatible one. He said that he did
not know but would check and went over to a table where the equipment was set
out and returned with the good news that it would be.
I was given an oxygen mask and a sedative was injected via my cannula and a
green curtain/screen was hung over my head leaving me in a twilight world. He
explained what he was about to do and was soon injecting the local anaesthetic
into my left shoulder area. He had surprised me by saying that I probably would
be able to go home in the evening subject to a satisfactory chest X-Ray and
that the admission letter is just to prepare you in case you need to stay
over. I didnāt feel anything as he cut
into the skin or during the procedure apart from a slight tugging. I did not
actually feel sedated and was carrying a conversation on with him and asking
questions although the nurse later said that I had dropped for a while at off
at one point. I could hear/feel him attaching the leads to the pacemaker and
soon he was stitching me up and checking it.
Back to the ward to compare notes with the earlier patient.
Looking at the monitor I was attached to I was surprised to see that my heart
rate was hovering at around 100 as although I had been back in AF for three
months it had averaged 72 and had only been in the 130ās briefly over a few
days in late March on my BP home readings over that time.
After some very welcome water followed a sandwich and I cup
of tea I initially felt fine but as the afternoon wore on I felt a pain my ribs
on the lower left side. The nurse though it was probably because of pressure
that had been applied to my chest during the procedure. To me it was beginning
to feel like when I have had in the past
broken ribs or when I had fluid on my lung after my heart valve replacement. I
was taken down for my chest X-Ray that showed that there was some air in my
chest wall cavity. When the doctor came round he said that I would need to stay
overnight and that hopefully the air would have gone by morning when I would
have another X-ray and meantime to wear an oxygen mask. Patient No 1 was OK and
happily set of home after a technician had set up his pacemaker and given him
his pacemaker card to carry with him at all times. He then came to set up and
explain mine and give me an appointment for the pacemaker clinic in eight
weeks. I looked at my card to find that I had been fitted with a single chamber
model by Boston Scientific an Essentio MRI SR Pacemaker basic rate 60 Mode
VVIR. He of course did not know why I not been given a dual chamber model. He
said since being fitted I had 13 pauses in my heart rate that had caused the
pacemaker to kick in.
I had chosen chicken casserole for dinner but it was not
quite as I expected and was rather exotic. My head started to sweat and I felt
flushed and suspected that it might have MSG in it. I began to feel light
headed and dizzy and called nurse. She had me lay flat on my bed and checked my
BP that had dropped considerably. She thought that I might be dehydrated and
had me drink some water and injected something into my cannula followed by a
saline solution. My BP gradually start to recover but she kept me laying down
for some time. When I felt better I sat up and had my dessert.:-)
Overnight the chest pain felt worse and I passed that
information on to the nurse. The consultant Dr F who had been supposed to fit
my pacemaker came round with his team on ward rounds. After discussing my
pneumothorax problem I asked why I not been fitted with the expected dual
chamber pacemaker. That was a conversation killer as he had had obviously not
know about it. The rest of his group stood open mouthed with nothing to say. He
could only say that it must have been a decision made by someone after the pre
assessment. I pointed out that my heart rate was now around 30% higher that it
had been in recent weeks. He asked if my AF was usually a problem to me. I said
that the only times in the past that I had been aware of it was when initially
noticing the heart rate increase when suddenly going in to AF. The only other
time Iām aware of it is when laying on my left side. He felt it may not need
treating providing that I was protected by a blood thinner either Warfarin that
I said that I had stopped due to joint pains or his preferred one Rivaroxaban that
I have always said is contra indicated for patients with artificial heart
valves and confirmed to me by the makers. He gave the usual cardiologists
answer that it just has not been trialled on valve replacement patients as they
are small group and that if it caused a brain bleed it would be less
devastating than a stroke caused by a clot! In the end I agreed to try it. A
nurse I had earlier been speaking to later said that I had surprised her by
agreeing so easily.
Another X-Ray was done around lunch time. My bed was
opposite the window to the nurses station. I could see a doctor, the sister and
two nurses with very concerned looks on their faces looking at a monitor. I
thought that must be my results and the doctor (Ukranian)came through to see me
still with the concerned look on her face. I said that I knew it was my results
they were discussing. She said that the pneumothorax had worsened and that she
needed insert a tube to let the air out. She said that it happens to one of
their 30/40 patients a month but a nurse said that it has been happening more
often recently.
I was not too concerned as I had fluid drained from a lung
after my aortic valve replacement that had taken three days to clear. She went
away to get the equipment and then laid this impressive collection. Anyway
after several shots of lidocaine and some morphine she inserted a long needle
and a tube between my ribs. The tube went into a container with sterile
solution and soon bubbles from the air were going through the solution. When
they stopped she asked me to cough to force more out and turn from one side to
the other force more air out. She went off to other things after telling me to
keep active to keep the air flowing. When I stood up the tube filled with blood
so I called for a nurse who was not sure if that should be happening. The
doctor came back and was not too concerned about it but my chest pain was
increasing making it difficult to move or breathe deeply. I was given more
morphine and more oxygen through my mask and told to breathe as strongly as possible to expand my lung.
The doctor decided that little was now coming out and if she removed the drain
the pain would stop.
Back for another X-Ray that showed that most of the air had
been extracted and very little liquid was now in the area. The doctor
confidently expected that all would be well by morning.
During the afternoon I noticed Fridays first patient going
into the main ward with his wife and hoped that he had not developed my
problem. His wife came in to tell me that during the morning he had developed a
chest pain that was going up into his throat and that he was sweating and had a
headache. They did an ECG and checked him over and told him that he had a
virus. Hospital acquired??
I had the X-Ray around 8.30 on Sunday morning and this time
the doctor came back with a smile saying that it was clear and that I could go
home. The consultant and his team came around again. My heart rate was still
hovering at 100bpm and I asked him about another cardioversion or ablation to
rid me of this AF beast. I have over the past few weeks had a numbness or lack
of feeling in my left foot and lower leg that is now also starting to affect
the right foot and have been having tests to find a cause for it. The
consultant said that he would like that to be diagnosed fully before taking
that route and would leave it for six months before seeing me to discuss it and
by that time would know if the single chamber pacemaker was doing its job. I
had also told him that I had inquired at a private hospital about having a left
atrial appendage closure fitted (Watchman device) he said that they fit an
alternative device the Amplatzer Device that we could discuss in the future to
avoid the need for blood thinners.
I was still unhappy to be left with untreated AF and later
spoke to the doctor who had performed the chest drainage. She suggested
Diltiazem MR as an alternative and gave me some plus a prescription. It turned
out to be a calcium antagonist and probably as bad for side effects as
Bisoprolol and is contra indicated for me in some ways.
Write ups on pacemaker procedures seem to vary greatly for
the recovery period. My dressing was removed the next day and I can wash
normally from day five. Some say that the arm must not be raised over shoulder
height my one says head height but Iām playing that one safe. No way do I want
to need to have the wire detach itself.
I do not need any painkillers for the shoulder but Iām aware
of it and it is a bit stiff. My concern is what movements I make when asleep or
when first waking up and stretching without thinking. The wound looks quite
neat with little swelling and Iām not sure if it is a bruise round it or if it
is the antiseptic they splashed all over. I have to take 500mg of penicillin
four times a day for five days. The first nurse gave me two capsules but the
second only gave me one. When I questioned it the first one had obviously got
it wrong. As they keep the drugs locked in your cupboard you are dependent on
them giving them at the correct time. It did not always happen and I only had
three on Saturday and other times the doses were either early or late.
After taking the Diltiazem on Sunday my heart rate dropped
to 61. I wondered if it dropped below that and the pacemaker had kicked in. In
the evening it crept up to 78 and was similar this morning. Today it has been
around 66.
derek76 uncklefester
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Film at eleven ?
derek76 MichaelVM7
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It was causing me to have retro when taking it.
They like Tamsulosin as it is very cheap.