Can anxiety/depression stop feelings of love?
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Hello
I have been happily married for a long time. We've had our ups and downs, like any normal marriage, but there's always been a lot of love.
We've just come through a horrifically stressful 18 months, mainly due to financial worries. I have felt permanently stressed, worried, very vulnerable and often humiliated (unable to pay for school trips, turning down social invitations etc). My self esteem has taken a battering and some days have been so hard. But, I've soldiered on, kept my chin up and still took a lot of comfort in the fact that, despite everything, we still had each other and we still had a lot of love.
But, these last 6 weeks something has changed. I'm experiencing feelings of anxiety and panic. I can only feel negative about life. All my optimism has gone, and I feel like I have nothing left to fight with anymore.
But, the very worst thing is that I feel like I don't have any love left for my husband anymore. It's all gone. When I look at him, I just feel tense and anxious. Just him being around makes me feel worse, and I have to force myself to be affectionate, and I have to pretend to be my normal myself. I genuinely feel that if I won the Lottery tomorrow I would walk away from him, and never look back. There's been a few rare flashes of the old loving feelings these last few weeks, but that's all.
I feel calmer, more centered when I'm alone, or with our children. The moment my husband walks in from work I tense up, I feel more anxious and I try to avoid him in the house. When only 2-3 months ago, cuddling up on the sofa with him was the best part of my day.
I don't understand what is happening to me? Have I stopped loving him, because I'm depressed/suffering with anxiety? Or, am I suffering with depression/anxiety because I have stopped loving him?
There's no denying that deep down I probably hold him responsibile for our current financial difficulties. He's a very clever man, but he's made a few reckless decisions, and he admits that often he doesn't 'work smart' but busies himself with stuff that interests him, rather than work that would be more financially productive. Added to this, he's admitted he feels very down and withdrawn, and certainly he's not the optimistic, dynamic man I knew and loved only a few months ago. But, he's still affectionate and caring towards me.
I would really appreciate it if anyone could respond and reassure me that something similar has happened to them, and that's it's down to anxiety/depression. Otherwise I can't believe that 20 years of marriage has come to an end.
Thank you.
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ella75953 liz54943
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WinsomeWife ella75953
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Now, you are not married, you have no promises to your boyfriend, nor he to you. Learn your lesson, and let this relationship end. That young man is in no condition to be a good husband to anyone. Don't take it personally. He does not have God's unfailing love to offer you at this time, only a doomed love that likely will cause him to be emotionally abusive & disloyal at least with his mind. Try to get involved with a church youth group, and avoid romance until you are actually prepared to be an awesome wife that would never give up on her husband. Avoid romance until you are able to be financially independent of your parents, not that you have to move out, just that you have to be actually ready for marriage before you start a romance, and get a LOT of advice about a particular guy who would be interested in you for marriage (not merely dating with an unknown outcome - the young man better be asking your father to see you for the purpose of marriage within a year.) Jerks like to date including touching, with no intentions for marriage anytime soon. Beware. They are users, not wonderful husband material. Be patient, or be hurt, again. Let this be the last time you get your heart broken. Let Jesus be the lover of your soul, who will never let you down, never give up on you, always be there for you when your eventualy imperfect husband is unavailable for your heart needs.
Love a big sister in Christ,
Merry Christmas, go to church soon, a Bible believing, love never fails - no divorce kind of church (rare by the way)
stephen22100 liz54943
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Just on a short note, this is what I would do:
1)I used questioned her about her whereabouts, even if she was 15 mins late coming home from work (She said that made her feel guilt)
2)I always used to ask who she was texting(Got her very angry)
3)I used to raise my voice to her in argument, and she would cry
4)I never hit her, but would call her some horrible names when its argument times.
5)I have never cheated
All these are flashbacks, and she says I make her feel tense and hopeless, and that there is no "US" anymore.Then she said after the divorce comes through, may I find a good woman in life.She haven't filed as yet, but she says she will contact her lawyers in March.
Please any advice, I love my kids and my wife.
michelle82267 liz54943
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Although I'm sorry anyone has to feel like this I'm relieved someone else feels/has felt as confused as I feel right now. I feel anxious and detached from reality, not enjoying things I normally would, super low self esteem and just feel so frustrated that I feel like this. My thoughts are so negative, sometimes I can be more logical and see that it's just the way I'm feeling that makes me think like that and other times I just can't see any other version of reality than the negative one. It's hard to tell what's real and what's just in my head. This makes it very hard to reassure my partner that everything is ok and that I still love him, I doubt it myself even though the thought of losing what we have/had breaks my heart and I want so badly to love him like I did.
I've been with my boyfriend for around 4 years but only lived together for the last year. We were doing long distance before that and although we did argue sometimes we were like you said, a little team against the world. The weekends we spent together were the best times, I'd look forward to seeing him so much and leaving at the end of the weekend was the worst. Although there are times when things are like they used to be, there are times when there's a tension and awkwardness between us, especially when he feels I'm not being affectionate and I'm too busy going through the thoughts in my head to be affectionate. Since we moved in together my boyfriend has had set backs at work, stints of being unemployed and obviously feeling low because of it. He used to be more active going climbing or playing sports with his friends. He's now a lot less active and sociable and we don't see his friends that often or even do much together, partly due to lack of money partly due to lack of motivation. This is especially hard as I have moved away from friends and family to be up here so I'm quite dependant on him for a social life, especially as I'm feeling too low to go find friends
I feel like I'm being really shallow, as if I don't fancy him now he's poor but it's more just that it stresses me out that he's struggling and I have to pick up the slack. I hate feeling this way and not being able to reassure him that everything is ok. I wonder if I'm just being a coward and that we're not meant to be and I should be brave and break up with him for both our sake's (forgetting we just got engaged and bought a house together) but then what if it's just down to the way I'm feeling and I end up losing him because of it and being in a worse mess.
I've got an appointment to start counselling next week so hoping this will help. Did things get better for you Liz? Can you shed any light on the situation? Thanks
SSekouB michelle82267
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For Me, at 53, and still having regular menstrual cycles, I realize the frustration of peri-menopause is just kicking into gear. Some days are better than others. I wish I'd understood years ago when I first started experience these strange, seemingly inexplicable "symptoms", that it was just my body changing from childbearing years to post. It might have lessened the anxiety, certainly the confusion. But, when emotions are going haywire, and I'm feeling at my physical and emotional worse, I have to remind myself that I'm not dying (it's taken many, many trips to the ER to finally convince myself of that), and that this will pass. It may pass slowly, but it will pass.
The relationship piece is one of the most difficult, I think. It's hard to sort through what you really feel, because your body is being flooded with feelings and emotions you can't explain or decipher. I always thank my husband for being patient with Me, and remind him that I'm as confused as he is about what washes over Me. We are just both committed to seeing it through to the other side, limping there on memories of "the way it used to be".
Hang in there! It's cliche, I know, but it's the best alternative. Draw on whatever supports you have -- even if it's just forums such as this. There's safety in numbers, but there's also comfort and hope.
Be well.
Me
michelle82267 SSekouB
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All the best x
shyboy liz54943
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chelsea23863 liz54943
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I hope you haven't divorced by now. It would be a shame because the love you have inside is masked with fake emotions of the ego.
I'll try and explain to you what is going on.
First, you are not your brain- I am sure you know this by now. So there is you and there is the brain, or- the ego. We as human beings have three natural states which are love, happiness and peace. Ego on the other side has a whole spectrum of emotions that have polar ends- meaning, you cannot have one without the other.
Any time you seek for something from an outside source, for example if you seek happiness from money, that happiness is conditioned and has a polar end because when money's not there happiness is absent. If you tie "love" to a man, which is more obsession than love, for example when you control him and don't want him be anywhere but with you, you are using him as a source of happiness. Because, if the source is far from you, or if someone is around your source, you start to panic because all of your happiness depends on that source.
On the contrary, when you feel true love, that love generates inside of you and comes from you, unconditioned and pure. It doesn't depend on anything, it is there because you are emiting it.
We can fall in the trap of the ego very easy. Think about anxiety for a second. What is it actually? It is a fear, a tension, but a fear of the unknown. What is fear actually, think about it? Can you sense fear, can you comprehend it? Fear is the absence of love. Or better yet said, fear is what masks love- ego masking your true self, because of silly reasons-like money.
You are currently in an ego state of mind and your ego is vulnerable and blaming him for your problems and for being in this state. And that is how you FEED it. You are feeding your ego with tension and apprehension and sadness. You are producing more and more thoughts that will feed that state od mind and thus you're going in a circle from which you yourself have to get out of, simply by becoming aware of what's going on.
Go back to the beginning, why did you fall in love with this person? Was money of any importance then? Money is such an illusion, the society created it to derive fear. Do not get caught inside this trap. Use the money to live easier but do not use the money to direct your life. Never seek anything from it. Emotions that come and that are connected to money are always egoic emotions that have a polar end.
Now, when two people who live together are both in this state of mind, sad and anxious, thinking about the past-or future, you are emiting your energy. You know that saying "Be responsible for the energy you bring into this space." You feel his energy and he feels yours and you are both feeding each other. What you should do is power up, you are stronger as two, and tell that "anxiety" to go. When you get a sad thought, think of a happy one. When you feel down and don't want to do anything, go running, or go do something. Re-program your mind or you will be in that circle forever.
Important thing is to never judge yourself. If you realize you are currently in an ego state of mind (which is whenever you are NOT in the NOW), be okay with it. The realisation is everything.
The thing is, your husband is affectionate because he is probably not as deep into this state as you are. Women tend to be more emotional and that is what covers up the love, while he can still feel it.
I bet you still love him to death, but you have let your mind control you- because of money? Money is non existent- maybe you can touch it and smell it and feel it, but it is a paper. The value it has, is just as existent as fear.
Fear is always absence of something- like love, peace and happiness. It's like darkness, darkness doesn't exist, it exists only as an absence of light. Therefore, you can't do anything with darkness, you can only turn on the light and work on it to stay on longer. Same with fear and love. You work with love, not fear. Don't go further away from love, by getting divorced because of money.
You know that when you are in love you feel like you're in "7th heaven" because you feel
jackie82937 chelsea23863
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I have a friend who has severe D she flits from knowing if she wants to remain with her husband whom she says she loves one minute and does not know the next to whether she wants to be with the boyfriend who also MH issues who is taking advantage of her vulnerability and using her, one minute she wants the boyfriend the next she can't trust him!
I have lost a lovey husband and seen our family destroyd by depression, my husband either does not want to deal with it or can;t see he has a problem. I had the I love you and then I don't know, he is now with another woman who is an alcoholic and now self medicating with alcohol. This is the messiest divorce ever, I did not want a divorce and have done all I can to help him. His behaviour is totall bizarre doesn't even contact our kids and they have both been in hospital and he is now being very controlling and does not seem to care that once the home is sold I will be homeless.
I know when I was very ill my mind played tricks on me, when you are ill like this you can't even think straight so please don't make any hasty decisions you may regret Liz x
Irelando liz54943
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Anxiety and panic cancels/blocks the feeling of love. You must have time alone and you must have a solution to all the problems you have described. I can confirm for you my anxiety cancels/blocks my feelings of love towards certain people or towards everyone.
You must be alowed time alone without resentment from him AND you must have the solution to all the probems described. Combat the anxiety and feelings of love can return. Combat the anxiety with time alone and problem solving/cooperation with your husband.
Marrage is crushing you. Solve the problems you have described. You have have asked the right questions. I Think you understand the situation, because you have asked the right questions.
Restore the love by busting the anxiety. Restore the marrage to its original function or quit it. You must have his cooperation and you must not place the blame on eachother. Solve the problem.
My anxiety can be cured by massage. Time alone granted to eachother without consequence or blame. And problem solving. Cooperation not blame.
sarah95364 liz54943
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I am about a month into this and trying to work it all out for myself. I want share share some of the things I have found help or not helpful in dealing with this.
1. DON’T waste your time questioning.
Easier said than done, but when I stopped questioning – is this loss of feeling from the depression or do I truly not love this wonderful person – I felt better. I have ‘fallen out of love’ in a normal ‘healthy’ way when I was feeling more myself, and it does not feel the same. If you experienced this feeling after or around an episode of anxiety or depression (at first unrelated to this event) then it is most likely just your brain chemistry playing tricks on you. Just decide that you know deep down you love them, and your goal becomes clear – to get better for yourself–NOT to spend days agonizing over if you love them or not.
2. Now that you have made a decision ACCEPT when you are in the process NOW and don’t be impatient for change. Accept that you will feel fearful thoughts here and there and accept that you will have thoughts that tell you you don’t love them, and it’s not fair to them, and you need to break up with them. DO NOT WISH THESE THOUGHTS AWAY. As much as you can, you must learn to live with them. What you resist persists. Your thoughts are not important, it is the power that you attribute to them that can make them important or unimportant. So when you feel a fearful thought, let it be there, notice it, and say, this is just a thought, it is meaningless, I choose different.
3. Someone mentioned this but ‘mindfullness’ can help you in the moment when you feel anxiety when you are with that person. Mindfulness means being present and not worrying ‘what if this doesn’t work out, what if I can’t get my feelings back’. Try your hardest to just BE (this takes practice but just achieve it as many times, as often as you can).
4. Look for love in other ways. You may not feel the “warm and fuzzies” so say to yourself this is a time where you will learn to love your partner in a different way – in a friendship way. You may not feel the romantic feelings so it gives you an opportunity to re-learn this person on the friendship level.
5. Most important believe that this will pass in the future. When you let your mind go running to the point where you feel hopeless and like you have to end it, you can spiral down. Make yourself believe that there is hope – even if you aren’t there yet
All of these things take constant practice and I have been up and down with them but I am committed to keep striving to get better. In behind all of these things you need to do things that will give you the power to handle all of the above with the mindfulness you need. This means you need an outlet for stress. For me I make sure to take relaxing baths, do cardio exercise (like running, good to release anxiety), Yoga (good for depression) and Meditation (good to attempt to quiet the mind). I wish you all good luck and sorry for the long post but If this helps anyone I really wanted to say it because I wish someone could have told me all of this. Please comment and keep me updated as to if any of this helps J
givemestrength liz54943
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How are you now? Has it passed?
Im still at the above stage 4 months in and its killing the family.
nikki53557 liz54943
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erickorbly liz54943
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I've found that only the people we love in life can bring out awareness of our own darkness, so don't be confusing the messenger with the message. I'd look at this as a chance to deal with your own demons rather than blame this man. I think you should ask yourself why he is to blame for your feelings? Did he do something wrong? I mean really wrong, not some annoying thing that doesn't matter but hurt you by being mean or selfish? Because if he didn't you only have yourself to examine. Don't give away your power to be whole by unjustly blaming others for your feelings.
The other thing I believe in life is the ultimate measure of how to act is to imagine yourself trading spots. When you imagine being in his place think about how you would like to be treated. When you (or anyone) act in ways that wouldn't want to be on the relieving end of those become the acts later to be regretted.
makLee liz54943
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Personally I think one of the symptoms that causes the most damage to a persons life is loss of affection. Once depression has had its claws into us for a while and we are utterly exhausted and sick of the whole thing, a strange thing can happen. Loss of love. We look at our partner and feel nothing. Depression can cause a feeling of ‘deadness’, an inability to feel pleasure in anything (anhedonia) and this can feel scarily like a lack of love.
Our partners are often the most trusted people in our lives, so they are a relatively ‘safe’ person to direct this feeling towards. Sometimes it feels like we need to escape and find a more stimulating life (paradoxically while causing much pain, depression can also create an absence of sensation and life feels hollow) and it is easy and convenient to blame the relationship for not being fulfilling enough.
The temptation to do this may be further fuelled by feelings of guilt for the pressure we have place on our partners and families as a result of our illness. With shoulders already overburdened just trying to get through the next day, hour, minute there is just not enough energy left to deal with that guilt and remorse for the hurt we see in their eyes. For many of us, we are already slogging it away with a counsellor or social worker and are too raw to carry out yet more examinations of ourselves. A lot of what we have already seen is not all that attractive to our hyper sensitive selves.
Courtesy of our lovely friend anhedonia (the inability to feel pleasure or interest in anything) we require an overstimulation of the senses to experience pleasure or fun. Which is why an outing with friends or extended family may feel fantastic and our interactions with our partner feels joyless. Creating a desire to leave and find a more intense and exciting life. It is less likely that our strong parental drive will allow this sensation to be directed toward our children, leaving our partner once again as the most likely recipient of these feelings.
From my own experience I can say that once the illness has run its course, I am able to see the falsehoods that anhedonia had me believing. What I was left with, after I had dealt with my sense of intense remorse for my thoughts and actions, was overwhelming gratitude. And more love and trust for my partner than I had before the whole thing consumed me. I am forever grateful that I didn’t act on the decisions I could have made and some part of me heard the little voice inside that believed in our love even when I couldn’t. I am especially grateful that my partner did the same thing. It would have been sorely tempting for her to cut her loses and escape the constant rejections and coldness aimed squarely at her.
Depression is one of the most selfish illness to afflict mankind. Recovery requires a level of self absorption for reflection, mood management is exhausting and due to its fluctuating nature one often feels a loss of credibility. It is not an environment conducive to making life altering decisions when your safety is not at risk.
jackie82937 makLee
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Thanks for sharing. Sadly I am in the middle of a very messy Divorce, I know it is down to my husband's depression and nothing i have done. We all tried to help him but he was not for being helped he is now in a very dodgy relationship with an alcoholic woman and self medicating with alcohol. I have had no choice around the Divorce he said he wanted a Divorce but I have had to be the one that sorts it as he has now compromised us financially and he is in debt to the tune of well over a £100,000! I am glad you heard that your partner loved you and your relationship survived this awful illness. I know how bad my husband is I've had psychosis, anxiety and D myself but pulled myselfd through it like you have done.