Chronic Prostatitis
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I am 36. I have chronic prostatits for 18 years, that's half my life. My experience in the disease and treatment follows:
The pain is intense and cripling. I have to be in bed all the time. Intense spasms. Symptoms move from urethra to prostate, back,ass, testicles so when you feel you finished with a symptom there starts another. I also may have difficulty urinating and some time ejaculating. This condition has remained iddle for a total of 6 years out of 18 and whenever I feel it is gone I have a really good flare up the very next day. Idle means I am not in pain but I get to wet my pants after urinating.. That is the closest I can have to normal life. My sex life is not good because I get erectile dysfunction when chronic prostatits is active. When it moves to being idle there is a tendency for restoration of erectile capacity however it is clear to me that I do not respond to visual stimuli any more . Reason for ED is venous leakage. Location of pain is as such that I frequently check both my urinary system and intestines.
Findings: High bladder neck, non typical inflammation of colon, prostate has no infection
Medical checks so far: Urethroscopy, Colonoscopy. prostate, testical, bladder, kidney ultrasounds. urine and prostate fluid cultures.
All cultures have come back negative. Bladder ultrasound shows some urine remaining after fully urinating.
Experience with medication: I have used antibiotics, a-blockers, mesalazine for my intestines and cortizone (budecole). For ED I have used Viagra and Cialis.
When I have flare ups NO medication works to control the pain. Or it may work for some weeks and then all of a suddent stop working. Medication for ED seems to be effective provided my symptoms are either gone or are not too intense. Symptoms come and go and it seems I cannot really control them.
Psychological impact: I am desperate and seriously considering suicide when I have flare ups
Social impact: No friends left. I do not have the energy to move out of bed
Fertility: Thankfully no problems whatsoever. However I am extremely worried whether my offspring will have the same problems as I do.
That's all
Got to go to the toilet again...
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Have had very similar for 25 years (I'm 45) have had all the tests and treatments you describe, and also considered ending it all especialy during bad periods. Anyway don't want to get you down. I am presently receiving treatment called cystistat on trial in some areas by the NHS.
It is substance which is injected via a cathiter into the bladder which is supposed to stimmulate the bladder lining to heal its self. I get this done aprox once every month and have had 10 treatments. I can't speek for anyone else but it has so far it has reduced the attack frequency of my problems by 70% which is increadable, and has given me back a good chunk of life again. It might not be for you but it is certainly worth asking your GP or urologist about.
Google it for more info its not like the rest of the herbal/ mirical cure rubish we've probabley both ordered and taken out of desparetion.
Best of Luck
Kevin
davidnedcub
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The pain is intense and cripling. I have to be in bed all the time. Intense spasms. Symptoms move from urethra to prostate, back,ass, testicles so when you feel you finished with a symptom there starts another. I also may have difficulty urinating and some time ejaculating. This condition has remained iddle for a total of 6 years out of 18 and whenever I feel it is gone I have a really good flare up the very next day. Idle means I am not in pain but I get to wet my pants after urinating.. That is the closest I can have to normal life. My sex life is not good because I get erectile dysfunction when chronic prostatits is active. When it moves to being idle there is a tendency for restoration of erectile capacity however it is clear to me that I do not respond to visual stimuli any more . Reason for ED is venous leakage. Location of pain is as such that I frequently check both my urinary system and intestines.
Findings: High bladder neck, non typical inflammation of colon, prostate has no infection
Medical checks so far: Urethroscopy, Colonoscopy. prostate, testical, bladder, kidney ultrasounds. urine and prostate fluid cultures.
All cultures have come back negative. Bladder ultrasound shows some urine remaining after fully urinating.
Experience with medication: I have used antibiotics, a-blockers, mesalazine for my intestines and cortizone (budecole). For ED I have used Viagra and Cialis.
When I have flare ups NO medication works to control the pain. Or it may work for some weeks and then all of a suddent stop working. Medication for ED seems to be effective provided my symptoms are either gone or are not too intense. Symptoms come and go and it seems I cannot really control them.
Psychological impact: I am desperate and seriously considering suicide when I have flare ups
Social impact: No friends left. I do not have the energy to move out of bed
Fertility: Thankfully no problems whatsoever. However I am extremely worried whether my offspring will have the same problems as I do.
That's all
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I have suffered with prostatitis for some years - especially bad two and half years ago around the time my wife died, (so I think stress can have a big influence). I had unrelenting pelvic pain which referred to my genitals and legs. No pain killers helped. I was eventually prescribed Lymecycline - this helped, but I believe that long term use caused (or maybe exacerbated latent) reflux throat problems, (so I stopped it). Meanwhile I tried Saw Palmetto and Quercetin. This combination got things under control. A few months ago I tried stopping Saw Palmetto - the symptoms returned within a week. More recently I had to change from 600 mg capsules of Quercetin to 2 x 250 mg because H & B stopped selling the 600 mg version. Within a few days my symptoms - having been absent for months - reappeared. Luckily, I have found an alternative source of Quercetin (650 mg capsules) and these have put me right again within 5 days. This all shows what a fine balance it can be. I would recommend anyone with chronic prostatitis to try 320 mg Saw Palmetto with 650 mg Quercetin daily - possibly needing to persist for 4 - 6 weeks before seeing the benefit.
mal23592 davidnedcub
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daniel96751 mal23592
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mal23592 daniel96751
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Not sure if you'll get to see my response, or if I should continue to post here, since you are not allowed to post links or even suggest Google search terms.
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Floyd3 Guest
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mark88328 Floyd3
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You can probably guess at the desperation and finding others seems to be the only avenue of hope because I read about different methods people try to get a handle on it. I chose you only because you're the most recent discussion and would like to know the truth about what I'm headed for since my doctor is really cold-eyed now.
Have you discovered anything?
mal23592 mark88328
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Inquisitive Guest
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mal23592 Guest
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CraigB47 Guest
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As your Urologist or GP to consider the cause not the symptoms. Good luck.
dean06582 Guest
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It took the medical prfessionals 1 1/2 years to make a diagnosis on my condition. My current medication is pregabalin 150mg three times a day, anti-depressants, tablets for my urination and high blood pressure tablets. For my pain I have a morphine patch, liquid morphine, codeine or tramadol. At the moment I have left leg numbness and my left arm feels like it has been scoulded, this is also the same for my leg when the numbness wears off. Due to the depression I am putting weight on.
My life outlook is very poor. I do not feel as if I could start another relationship as its not fair on the other partner. At 40 this disease is a life sentence, all I need to know is when will it end? My life not the disease.
lowreen Guest
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The worse attack was probably in 2005, when the pain came back suddenly during heavy lifting of weights. It took me 6 months to recover after cocktail of antibiotics and painkillers.
Finally in 2011, I visited another Urologist who suggested semen culture. The culture came back with Strep B in prostate and I was precribed Amoxiclav for 14 days. The pain subsided very slowly but I was eventually symptom-free for 2 years. But symptoms returned a few times from 2013 onwards. The first time it returned, I took another semen culture test, which came back negative and I was given painkillers for 14 days and the pain went away. 6 months later, it returned and I was given Urispas - a type of muscle relaxant and the pain went away again.
I notice that prostatitis is somehow associated with heavy lifting while on a full bladder, the backflow of urine into the prostate/epidermis causes inflammation that becomes very hard to subside. In May this year, after rigorous training for 5 years, my symptoms suddenly returned. It started with a high fever and cough and after recovery, my left epidermis began to sting and the pain esclated to my scrotum. I took a course of Amoxiclav again for 14 days but the pain didn't go away so I went back to my Urologist who gave me painkillers and again the pain didn't subside. During my next visit, I was prescibed alpha-blockers Hytrin (Doxacine). Didn't help much either.
I have scoured the internet and it seems alot of the information given are recycled from the main websites - mayo, webmd, maryland. But talk about non-bacterial prostatitis and nobody has a clue. Many of those holistic websites and forum look suspicious to me with people claiming to be cured by ridiculous methods like not using toothpast with Triclosan, learning karate, or stuffing garlic in the rectum.
Right now, I am experimenting with Quercetin + Bromelian 1000mg daily, Vitamin C 1000mg daily, saw palmetto 320mg daily, magnesium glycinate 500mg at night before bedtime. I am also taking Oil of oregano (hailed as a elixir for almost everything - anitibiotic, antifungal, immune booster) with Echinacea Goldenseal to boose my immune system and eradicate Candida Albicans (in case the prostatitis is caused by fungus) In whatever case, the pain has waxed and waned since I started Quercetin. The saw palmetto improved urine flow but didn't remove the pain. I am not sure if oil of oregano is effective in treating fungal prostatitis but it has certainly cured me of flu and cough.
lowreen
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There is still left pelvic pain along the testicle nerves but its bearable. I believe Quercetin + bromelain and saw plametto works to eliminate the inflammation and the Vitamin C heals the damage.
Michele123 lowreen
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Michele123 lowreen
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sven77777 Michele123
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Blood or urine test won't show nothing!
Tip: don't let any doctor fool you, by telling you a urine test will show the same results as a semen test because the urine goes throu the prostate. Its not true!
If you can get a culture of the prostatic fluid ( fluid without the semen) its even better.
So not masturbating, but after prostatic massage they can catch a couple of drops of prostate fluid coming out of your penis, these need to be tested! I am sure they will find something there that they haven't found before.
After that, they test wich antbiotics it is not resistant to and you can start your treatment. ☺
Michele123 sven77777
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sven77777 Michele123
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Wich is wrong!
Just because they are incapable of doing the right test to really find the bacteria causing all the harm...
Don't be easy on the doctors its your life they are talking about...
Michele123 sven77777
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Michele123
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sven77777 Michele123
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Cypro will only help for urine infections, or infection from urethra, penis, testicles...
From the moment the infection get into your prostate, cypro will not help anymore, because of the simple fact that cypro can't penetrate into prostate wich is a muscle that is very hard for medicines to penetrate.
So if you discover your prostatis within the first week and you treat it rightaway with cypro for at least 30days, you have a chance to succeed BUT from the moment it is there for more than 1month it is impossible to treat it with oralmedicines, you can only threat it with direct injections in the prostate.
SO: you need to get the same antibiotics you have been given oral, have them injected in the prostate: it can be cypro or ceftriaxone, azetromicine.... there are a couple they can choose from...
I have had prostatitis for 2,5 years...
Don't loose hope, there is a solution!!!
Michele123 sven77777
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sven77777 Michele123
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How ever when you already have prostatitis, your prostate is weak SO a virus can do you harm... BUT for people who has never had prostatitis, people who has a healthy prostate will not be affected by virus...
So: you are only sensetive to virus after already having a bacterial prostatitis.
FIRST THING to do is to TREAT the BACTERIAL infection...
Herbs, massage, sit in hot water, drink lots of water will HELP to relieve pain but will NEVER HEAL you...
Michele123
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.and dosage of levothyroxine increased .I've noticed difference already. Penis pain reduced to level before.I fully believe prayers initiated the great penis pain etc.If.not for that i would.have never suspected connection as I was focused on other causes related to pain. Just thought..I'd throw that out there.Do not give up hope for relief..I mean as my penis kept shrinking with the greater and greater ED...I had actually contacted Dr's who perform penile implants.
Michele123 sven77777
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Thank you again for your wise and knowledgeable replies.
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Michele123 sven77777
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Thanks again.
sven77777 Michele123
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Prostatitis is the mean source of all your symptoms!
I had: burning sensation from the urethra to the top of my penis; lots of urgency ( having to urinate every 15min); heavy pelvic pain; sensation like I had a tenis ball in my ass...
I know people who has also lower back pain, swollen bladder, heavy testicle pain and lower abdomen pain...
I lost lots of time in research of pelvic pain disorder. Then when I started the treatment I quickly felt that nothing changed, even started to get worse.
Doctors push you in the wrong directions ONLY because they suck at testing, with all their test showing to be negative...
I can't recomend you any treatment as I dont know what bacteria you problably have...
Dont think about treatment, FIRST concentrate on going through proper testing...
Michele123 sven77777
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Michele123 sven77777
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The cystoscopy I had last week horribly irritated all the pain and symptoms unfortunately. Everything you say rings very true.I'm gonna push my present urologist to.he said he would. To test prostate fluid...I wish there was a place in USA that did something as complex. Though thereally are a couple drs. Who put antibiotics directly into prostate in Usa.
mal23592 Michele123
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figth4thecure Michele123
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For that, i consider that you should have a semen culture as a most important examen (in my case the urine culture was negattive and the semen culture was possitive for the bacteria). ist important that the semen culture its backed up whit the MIC antibiogram, my lab didnt do that and know i have a prescription of an antibiotic that seems to be helping but its like shooting blind. Its important to repeat the culture 15 days from the end of the medication to see if the bacteria was killed or if it created resistance. Another issue that i consider important its to manage stress and depression for that i woudnt suggest psychiatric medications as they have side effects, (im just recovering from some of them that cause me terrible nightmares and other issues when you try to left these medications). Im just replacing them whit homepotahy and acpuncture sessions, these last is was worked the best.