come of statins my dairy the effects/// week 2

where do want to start ///back ache,neck ach painful right arm elbow pain left foot that i couldnt stand on shooting pains in various parts of my body, concentration bad and eye sight not great and feeling i had been beaten by mick tyson  i also noticed now that i ve come of statin that i havent got these side effects only  bad pins and needles in left foot and left hand which is very strange and i can not tollerate stupid people  and seem to be more snappy 

That all sounds "normal" for statin side effects.  I loved the last bit!  I've found in the past both with myself and other people, that chronic pain does make people impatient and snappy ..... maybe that's why there supposedly so many grumpy old men and women around?  Too many on statins?

You are very correct spoken to awful lot of people and its freightening everyone seems to spaced out like zombies ..THE LIVING dead age of flunkys spaced out on stats and not the 60s 70s hippies ...hopefully i will make 10 or more years and see this lot in court for a massive payout from these drug companies.. 

It is scary, isn't it?  It's also true some people have absolutely NO side effects at all from them, I know a few people who've been taking them for years with no problems.

It wd be good if some research could be done into why they affect some of us so badly and others not at all.

Have you heard anything about legal action against the statins manufacturers, because I haven't?   It 'd be difficult to sue for side effects which vanish when we stop taking the drug, but the people with long term permanent damage would be due big payouts.  The only problem is that I'll bet the companies would do what James Hardie did over the asbestos, pull every legal trick in the book in the hope the claimants would die before it got to court, which is in fact what happened.  Grrrrrr I say!

I think that many people are not even aware of the side effects but put their deteriorating loss of mobility etc down to growing older.

From the research I did, presciptions of Statins within Europe have increased exponentially over the last 20 years, the statics are there.

But, I could not find any statistical data that there is a correlation between the use of Statins and a reduction in heart attacks or strokes.

Their usefulness is based on  - seemingly - unreliable clinical trials an a lot of assumptions.

I think law suits have commenced in the US, but it is easier over there to sue, I think.

I haven't heard of any law suits, but  I'll check that out, because if they're happening in the US they'll happen here in Australia too and I'd be happy to give evidence for any claimants.  

I don't understand people putting drugs in their bodies without checking either the manufacturer's information sheets, which in the case of statins do list the possible side effects, including the long term permanent delibitating ones, or the internet.   Why are people so trusting?  I don't get it ....

A new GP (now an ex GP for me) recently prescribed me some new medication for migraine:  the manufacturer clearly warns that it should NEVER be prescribed for anyone with a history of heart attack or high blood pressure, both of which she knew I'd had.    I didn't take them, of course, but what if I had?

GP's, unfortunately, are not as knowledgeable as the general public thinks they are.

No and nor are specialists either, they're only fallible human beings like the rest of us, not gods, and it's up to us to keep an eye on them and not take everything they say as gospel.    

 

You are very right in what you say i have seen 4 different gps at my medical centre and nobody really gives a bugger you are a number on a computor screen ,i also found this when i had my stents heres your drugs youve had one night stay in hospital we will refer you to class.s when there is opening  still awaiting

BUT WHAT they did not tell me was the side effects the worry and stress leading up to operation and then the issolation and pain and worry after which i have found worse if it wasnt for heart nurse mo when i can contact her i would have been in a bad place of depression.I feel sorry for the elderly people who just get parmed of as i did at least i have my own will to decide what im going to do and take...BUT  i m feeling far better than i did  ..pins and needles still there in left foot and left hand  but i sleep better and feel better funny when this operation took place had insert in right arm in wrist. 

Was the class a cardiac rehab group?  One night in hospital after surgery doesn't seem long enough, I had a few days and was then referred to the rehab group and started at that about 3 weeks. later.  Of course, if I'd had private health cover I'd have gone sraight to a rehab centre for a couple of weeks.

So how long have you been waiting to get into a rehab group?  How long ago was the heart atack and stent surgery? 

 

stents were replaced in 22nd  November 2014 should have had one but ended with buy one get one  extra free drug coated ones  ..never had heart attack just a collasped vain to heart which i thought they would have given me drugs but they wanted to do stents instead  went on the drugs then found out after that chl    was high at 7 thats when it went down hill on statins for me .. 

I could be wrong but I've never heard of any drugs that can correct a collapsed vein,but wouldn't it have been an artery, not a vein?

As far as I know stents are the only thing to re-open a collapsed artery, but I'm sure if I'm wrong others on here will share their knowledge.

 

I'd be doing some selective googlin about statin side effects:  I did before deciding to go off them for good, but I don't recall anythng about calcification deposits, which to some extent are fairly inevitable as we get older.

There's an enormous amount of evidence that statins cause muscle pain and weakness

Most definately i watched my late father go  down hill  in 2 years .I did not believe all the stuff at first what he was saying  but as i  am on  similar drugs the side effects are the same as his I  now understand what he went through  he was a very inteligent guy and NEVER complained about nothing and just took it on the chin  he had no illness till he reached 78. These drugs crept there way into life via doctors recomendations  Statins have to do something to your bodies as i am only 50 I have my rights to refuse what they say and its about quality of life which i did not have aches pains weird  feelings etc abnormal sleep paterns with scary dreams feeling crap even after 2 stents these have all gone in the last  2 weeks of stopping .Unfortunatly if youve been on these for along time the damage might be already done and age is another factor in these awful drugs that are suppose to do something but usaully do something  else..  

I TOTALLY agree it's about quality of life:  I made that decision a few months back and I'm feeling great.  I will have my cholesterol checked again soon, as I want to know if the psyllium husks I'm taking most mornings have made a difference.   WARNING:  Don't take them dry, they can swell up in your throat and choke you and don't take them within at least an hour of any medication because they can stop absorption

There's no doubt statins are effective in lowering cholesterol:  the issues are at what cost to the rest of your health & quality of life AND does choelsterol need to be that low anyway?