Median Lobe Prostate Bladder Blockage Options?!?
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So I have a median lobe that acts as a ball valve at the neck of my bladder.
I had no idea for many years what was going on. I even went to the emergency room a couple times.
I was holding 1000 CC's quite often.
One doc wanted to do the church right away. Another doctor taught me how to self catheterize. Another doctor wanted to prescribed Flomax. Doc in Germany wanted to do an ejaculate preserving "EP" TURP.
The median lobe seems to disqualify me for the Urolift. But a doc in Orange County, CA says the Urolift may indeed help me.
I'm young to be going through this. And my wife wants more kids. So I want to have antegrade ("forward shooting!") ejaculation.
Can anyone – as they say at the 12-step programs – share any experience, strength and hope with this situation?
Median lobe blocking urine flow. I need surgery but I want regular ejaculation.
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tim32862 Chip_Bunker
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I've got the same problem as you, the median third lobe. I had Prostate Arterial Embolization (PAE) in Nov 2013. at that time they didnt realise I had the median lobe issue. PAE doesnt work anything like so well with a median lobe although it did reduce the prostate size down from 53g to 38g which is actually pretty good if you've got just the normal two lobes. I'm pretty much back to where I was before I had the PAE. I'm due to see the Urologist quite soon to discuss other options which may include Urolift, he's not ruled it out at this stage although he is also talking about a "limited Turp" of just the median lobe as an alternative. Like you I'm avoiding Turp - seems to me the large majority of sexually active men who have had it done seriously regret it afterwards. Fortunately I found what it was like in advance as I took Tamsulosin (Flomax) for a while and that caused retrograde ejaculation until I stopped taking it. I've certainly had some Urologists in the past "playing down" the seriousness of that particular side effect. They should take Tamsulosin for a while to see what's it feels like! I had one idiot Urologist tell me to "just switch the lights off" I never went to him again after that. I've just had another cystoscopy done to determine the exact size of the median lobe, it's that result I will be discussing with my Urologist shortly. So will see what the recommendation is then...
Chip_Bunker tim32862
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Sounds like we have a similar situation. The Flomax has worked for me BUT I have recently had to increase the dosage. .4 in the morning and .4 at night.
Side effects? DIZZINESS!!!! And of course retrograde ejaculate. But I can time the Flomax and the sex so I can get antegrade ejaculate.
Basically sex at night or 9 to 12 hours after taking the Flomax. After giving the wife the best 3 seconds of her life I then take a Flomax and make a ham sandwich - haha.
But I am liking the idea of self-cath until I decide what to do.
But Urolift and Mini Turp are seeming like okay options. First Urolift.
PS - I have also noticed what I drink really effects urine flow. I am a coffee and Diet Coke addict. The caffeine helps my depression. But if I drink water all day I can pee easier. The caffeine really seems to inhibit urine flow.
vacationterry Chip_Bunker
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I also have a medium lobe pressing on my bladder. My brother’s urologist Dr. Claus Roehrborn in Dallas Texas pioneered the FDA study in the US for this procedure. He is also the head professor and chairman of the Department of Urology at the University of Texas (South Western). I have a Urolift scheduled with him in November. He can do a Urolift and fix the middle lobe to one of the lateral lobes if the middle lobes does not protrude into the lumen of the the bladder too much. Or if it does, he can resect (remove) the middle lobe preserving the bladder neck and then do the Urolift, thus preserving ejaculation. No sure where you live.
There is also a Urologist Dr. Peter Chin near Sydney Australia started doing the Urolift procedure in 2005. He is probably the most experienced in the world. He has successfully done the Urolift to fix the middle lobe to the lateral lobe. You can google him and go to his website and see a video of the procedure.
Ufrolift will only work on prostates of 80gm or smaller. To avoid retrograde ejaculation you need to make sure that your urologist can preserve the bladder neck when doing the Urolift.
Hope this is helpful, Terry
Chip_Bunker vacationterry
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Thank you!!!
I was about to fly to Germany to have an EP TURP with Dr. Alloussi.
Maybe I will fly to Texas or Australia instead.
Many thanks,
Chip
tim32862 vacationterry
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This is a really interesting development with Urolift, seems the median lobe can be fixed with the procedure after all. I'll discuss this with my UK Urolift Urologist when I see him soon.
arlington Chip_Bunker
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Chip_Bunker arlington
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nealpros Chip_Bunker
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Neal
sarasij81400 Chip_Bunker
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You have to take Trans Rectal USG, and take the report to both, to an Urologist, and an Intervention Radiologist, who has done PTE.
Then you can discuss, and decide.
Never think of TURP, or LASER, if you want to enjoy SEX and have more KIDS. Both of the PROCESSES can go WRONG--has gone wrong for many patitents.
And--- Good LUCK.
jefffcc Chip_Bunker
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Chip_Bunker jefffcc
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The best indicator seems to be the camera in the penis. Everything is right there on the TV screen.
Chip_Bunker
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a80940 Chip_Bunker
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Hope you are well. Do you have anymore info or heard about anyone having the EP Turp from Germany? I am considering it. I'm in the US. My prostate is 120 and have large median lobe.
Thank you.
Albin Chip_Bunker
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Albin
jjjj57989 Albin
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Albin,
How are you doing now? Has the Urolift 'clip' solved your problems?