Coronavirus, let's all talk !
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As a COPD patient, the Coronavirus has me very frightened. I'm frightened for myself, my family, as well as my fellow COPD challenged posters. I've started this discussion to provide a new place for information, opinions, comforting words, and common sense.
I'm already very homebound, but will need to shop for my groceries. I have a few face mask, a small supply of hand sanitiser and paper towels. I look to increase these supplies. Also, I hope to stock up on pantry supplies should the virus go crazy in my area.
I look forward to reading all your post on this subject.
All the best, Larry
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birte96150 larry49033
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Hi Larry, sorry to hear you are feeling frightened, it is a very bad situation. I started to isolate in the beginning of the week, because it is becoming increasingly obvious that the government is doing nothing about this, so all we can do is using our own common sense. You can only do what is sensible and then accept whatever happens. I find listening to audio books a lovely pastime, you can listen for free on U tube. Type in "Free audio books, librivox". There are all sorts I have listened to all the Sherlock Holmes stories, a lot of Agatha Christie and many more. I have also joined a facebook group COPD LIFE UK CHAT which is very nice, some lovely people all with the same disease. Maybe you would be able to get someone to some shopping for you, often people are glad to help and they could just leave it on your doorstep. Hope you will join above mentioned group. All the best wishes. Birte
larry49033 birte96150
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Here in Virginia (USA) it is not the same as Italy or England or Texas (USA). While the national government can ban travel and even fund medical research, it's the individual states that will be needed to each deal with outbreaks and treatment. This virus is more contagious than a flu virus and I'm told more dangerous. Sports Leagues, Churches, Concerts, and more are suspending activities to help slow down the spread of the virus. I believe that a healthy fear of this virus is as justified as medical experts are telling us it is.
Fear is a good thing, panic is not. Let's all use our common sense and look out for each other during this time. The quality of our character may well be tested as this medical crisis sweeps the planet.
All the best.
Reglois birte96150
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Hi Birte
Is it good to completely isolate? My personal opinion and only mine, is that if one isolates completely you lose what ever immunity you have to other germs, so immunity down all round, so b.......d if you do and b..............d if you don't.
Sue
larry49033 Reglois
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I've heard of athletes taking B-12 vitamin shots, along with various other "health food" supplements like vitamin C, vitamin E, vitamin D, and other oils.
diminish Do any of these things give you a better immune system or fight flu/cold symptoms. I ask because I do know that as we age our immune systems diminish. Can any of these supplements really help bolster an immune system. I have always relied upon a balanced diet that includes fruits and vegetables. I love citrus juices (orange,lime,lemon,etc.).
Being in the best health that we can be can only help if any contract any diseases/virus. Post on this area should be most interesting indeed.
All the Best
aitarg35939 Reglois
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Emotionally, isolation is highly detrimental. People can go crazy when they are stuck inside and not interacting with others. What's detrimental to our minds harms our bodies.
I personally don't seem to have lost much immunity in the last few years of much-increased hermitage due to my lungs. Pollens may bother me more, but that seems true of all my aging friends.
Reglois aitarg35939
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Oh yes pollen, not good at all and it is so early this year, have had to cope with that and a neighbour deciding to dig up a whole field of Christmas trees and then set light to the pile, managed to get out of here for the morning but had to come back for the dogs, then the wind changed and thick black smoke all over my house, made me really ill chest wise and haven't recovered since.
My immunity seems relatively strong considering I don't really see that many people living out in the sticks. I do take Echinicea drops, they are supposed to boost the immune system, tastes foul so must be good for you eh? lol. I too have a lot of fruit, must admit less veg, have a range of 5 I really like, and do try to stick to a good diet, not always succesfully.
aitarg I would go stark raving if I had to isolate, I only have my dogs to talk to, only ten inhabited houses in the hamlet and I am the only foreigner, though the neighbours, (we are well spread out) are really lovely and help me out with a lot of things, our thinking is not the same.
aitarg35939 Reglois
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Oh, that smoke! I hate the lazy burn-the-fields-cause-it's-easier attitude. Though they didn't do it in the '50s-'80s, farmers in Central America & the Yucatan now burn their fields most springs, claiming that it goes back to the Maya. I wouldn't care if all their smoke stayed there. It doesn't-- it all blows up across the Gulf of Mexico into Central Texas for weeks at a time. Not as thick as your neighbor's stunt.It must be very hard being alone there now without your husband.
Reglois aitarg35939
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Burning is actual forbidden here but we are so isolated every one does it any way, from burning a few bits of cardboard, leaves etc to whole fields. There is only one house here with any form of central heating, that is the young couple because they work, the rest of us have wood burning fires, me included. All that said I wouldn't want to live any where else, been here 30 years, love the days gone by feeling here, no one uses convenience foods for example, can't order in, doesn't exist.
After hearing the news last night I shall nip out and stock up on dog food IF I can get it, my allergic dog is not easy, allergic to all commercially prepared food as most contain wheat, beef or eggs. and tomorrow vets to stock up on the other dogs tablets. If I can get a tin or two and some flour for me I will be ok, can make my own bread etc. If forced to isolate I know the whole hamlet will pull together and help me if needed and the 84 year old, the single man (67) is a treasure and a jack of all trades and if anything goes wrong he will be there to help. Worry for my daughter as she is self employed and she now cannot work because everything antiques fair she does is now banned. Bills still have to be paid, who helps out these people? Millions of them. Can see global collapse coming.!
Maybe have managed to added photo of my area from my kitchen window showing distance of neighbours etc
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aitarg35939 Reglois
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What a gorgeous view! I think that you are better off in a closer knit ville than are many of us in cities. I have been lucky with many offers of help, both from locals and from as far as California, Winnipeg and even my Montreal friends trapped on Sicily.
Am happy for you that your lungs can handle wood heat. It's been many years since i could. Isn't it interesting that our wonky lungs handle things differently.
I pray that your daughter lives where government is suspending mortgage/rent payments, etc. Here in the States, The Orange Idiot gave $15 BILLION to the stock market last week, because billionaires needed to buy up all the toilet paper on earth, apparently., lol.
Reglois aitarg35939
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Thanks for the compliments, well spaced out aren't we? looking the other way there is not a house in sight for 100s of metres, I KNOW I am better off here health wise, pure clean air. Maybe I can handle wood heat because I have never known anything different, even in the UK we had wood fires, I even cooked on a wood heated Rayburn, so if I am re-acting I don't even know it. My daughter lives in France as well, so no help what so ever for the time being, just me sending them what I can afford. She has no mortgage nor does she pay rent luckily, she has Sjorens Syndrome and degeneration of the spine.
Good to know that friends come through in times of need isn't it?
Went up the lane, drove as I cannot do hills, to see the 84 year old, asked her first if she accepted visits, she did, so we had a great chat, nice day so the door was kept open until neither of us could stand the pollen, so so early this year, we were joking that if the government here, did like the UK was proposing, forcing people over 65 into a 4 month long isolation !!!!! we would be OK here as most of us are over that age bracket and live so far out we could still visit and keep moral up BUT Something would have to be done about getting food to us all in this hamlet as far from shops and no food deliveries yet exist in the county, the younger couple here would be of no help at all, they never speak to us old uns, only think of them selves
Hope all of us come through this. At least I have my two oxygen machines, + a cylinder in case of power cuts, read there was a severe shortage.
aitarg35939 larry49033
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The government here, both the Orange Dickwad and state (including Texas Health Department directors) are off on a coke-booze-gambling binge in Vegas, apparently. (They are so drugged that they can't figure out how to call their voicemail).
I have zero confidence in any govt agency here.
douglas25288 larry49033
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I have alpha type 1 but do not have emphysema or any lung or liver issues for example. so my question is are you at more risk than the general public even if you dont have any adverse affects from alpha type 1. and can covid19 bring on problems you wouldn't otherwise have ?
larry49033 douglas25288
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Hello Douglas.
Some, like myself, are not medical experts. So, alpha type 1 "what"? I'm not familiar with all of the words/phrases and also wording changes from country to country as well. I would assume that for anyone with a pre existing medical condition contracting Covd19 or any other additional maladies can't be a good thing.
Next, here in Virginia (USA), hoarding of supplies like hand sanitiser,paper towels, surface disinfectant cleaners, antibacterial hand soap, canned foods, and other things has begun. It must be expected that people will generally place themselves first, but let us please try to reserve some empathy for our neighbors and allow us not to revert to caveman thinking.
Let us all grow some from this crisis and emerge better people in spite of the bad taking place around us.
All the Best !
larry49033
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Fear was mentioned earlier and I have an opinion on that subject.
Fear is a natural human emotion. How one manages fear is the question. Fear challenges us to show proper respect or caution for life's more dangerous/uncertain situations. One can show proper respect for animals or heights or even lightning storms without being an ass about it.
During this medical crisis we need to all listen to the medical/safety experts and pull back on the social activities for a few months for the better good of all (and yourself). Not following their good advice could extend this Pandemic for longer than need be.
Ironbutterfly larry49033
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I live at the tip of Africa...it is midnight...just got a fright with a heavy cough and typical cold symptoms ...drinking ginger and lemon tea and some other stuff ....a bit panicky...shall self isolate for few days....emphysema sufferer ....hell, this is heavy stuff.....
aitarg35939 Ironbutterfly
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So sorry, Iron Butterfly. That is terrifying. if you can possibly get tested, please do. I have had influenza now for 3 weeks, hoping i'm over it. because this year's regular flu keeps reactivating, it is infectious for a very very long time. Take care of yourself but if you have CV, a few days' isolation is not enough.
You're in my prayers for healing (even if you don't want to be, lol(
larry49033 Ironbutterfly
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Hello Iron,
You said you don't feel so well, sorry to hear it. Do you have a fever (temperature), body aches, dry cough, etc.
Do you have access to medical facilities nearby? Anyone like a neighbor or friend you can contact if needed? If you get laid up sick, do you have enough food supplies set aside to see you through?
Please be well and report back to us here. We may not always agree, but we do care about each other,
All the Best