Coronavirus, let's all talk !
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As a COPD patient, the Coronavirus has me very frightened. I'm frightened for myself, my family, as well as my fellow COPD challenged posters. I've started this discussion to provide a new place for information, opinions, comforting words, and common sense.
I'm already very homebound, but will need to shop for my groceries. I have a few face mask, a small supply of hand sanitiser and paper towels. I look to increase these supplies. Also, I hope to stock up on pantry supplies should the virus go crazy in my area.
I look forward to reading all your post on this subject.
All the best, Larry
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larry49033
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Any out there actually with Covid-19? We would certainly like to hear from you and offer any support we can.
All the Best
daisymay2 larry49033
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I was only diagnosed with COPD last week after a lung scan and not even started treatment as yet.
I am quite active and well under 70.
The UK government has said it is going to make all over 70s and those with medical conditions like COPD self isolate for 4 months, when is yet to be announced or how they intend to enforce this.
I am gutted as I have just had to cancel one trip to Athens but had a Cyprus holiday booked for May, Mauritius one for June and Dublin for July and now have no idea what to do with the last 3.
COPD has not yet been added to my travel insurance as waiting for the Consultant to tell my doctor what treatment to initiate and the insurance will want to know what meds I take for it and I cant tell them.
Maybe wait until the pandemic gets worse and more flights are cancelled
It doesn't help as we have no idea as yet when the 4 months will start, but it will take us up to August probably if it starts soon.
We will not be allowed to go out to the shops or even pharmacy.
At the moment I havent been out as much but will find it very difficult not to go out at all for 4 months.
Thanks for listening.
aitarg35939 daisymay2
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Oh, yikes, Daisy May! We're here and always willing to listen.
Reglois daisymay2
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Sorry about your diagnosis Daisy May, such very bad timing.
I quite agree with you that 4 months is ridiculous, mentally such a long house arrest, for that is what it is, bad for a couple let alone single people, will have a severe mental affect, but that is the UK government for you, out of sight out of mind and not being a nuisance, SO glad I no longer live there as I for one would not be able to comply.
If you have to lose you holidays put in to the government a claim for compensation !!!!
larry49033 daisymay2
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Daisy,
I too have COPD, but isolation does not mean you can't call and talk with friends/family. You can still step outside into the fresh air. Weather permitting and if you are up to it you could walk short distances in your immediate area. Officials want to discourage gatherings of people where the virus could spread. Common Sense is needed and your new friends here will endeavor to inform, encourage, and uplift any and all. Let us all please not allow ourselves to fall into depression and melancholy.
We can keep ourselves busy with our daily chores and use any new additional time to finally organise that family scrapbook, or find a small area to plant that small garden that you wanted to do for years. Perhaps it might be a fine time to clean those hunting rifles or polish that silver Tea Service. The possibilities are as unlimited as our personalities. While one may like to read, another may like to view movies, and still another may use the time to create art or clean/polish their automobile/s. Keeping busy for me is a way to fill their time.
Remember that this site will be here when /if needed.
All the Best
aitarg35939 larry49033
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It's been a few days. How's everybody doing?
larry49033 aitarg35939
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Hello,
I'm ok, but running low on some pantry items. Bread, sugar, butter, etc. Also I'm not in the most cheerful mood lately. Depression has been a part of my whole life, so I must battle those feelings.
As for groceries, I'm thinking of going to the market Sunday mourning when my store opens. I hope they will have the shelves restocked and I can purchase my needs before the crazy hoarders roll out of bed. It will take military planning and execution to pull it off.
I find the news informative, but also depressing. The reporters seem to delight with each discovered error or wrongdoing they expose. I can see blame on both political sides that should not be happening as people are sick and (some) dying. UK, America, Italy, whatever, put the damn politics aside and get the job done. Hospitals, testing kits, respirators, etc, What they do/don't do will be remembered at the next election.
All the Best
aitarg35939 larry49033
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Dear Larry & everyone here:
I have said much of this on Facebook
2. It is not required of us that we know daily numbers of new cases in which countries, nor how many died in which city at which hour. We aren't going to be tested on this. We're not. Period.
We can however suffer palpitations, hyperventilation, stroke and heart attack just from all the fear and anxiety. Anxiety and fear are physiologically damaging. I know that we all know that but it must be said.
Beyond practicing all our social & physical hygiene, eating as well as we can (i know, i know), and making sure we stick to our regular medication & lung health routines, the only thing we can control about coronavirus is whether we let the daily news drive us crazy. Start now to wean yourself away from the news. If you know the principals of 12 Step programs, those may be needed. Just as it is not required that we know those numbers, it is not required that we know which talking head said what at 10, and 11, and 12, 1, 2, 3, etc. IF you must, pick one morning and one evening show to watch, max 1 hour. There are a million ways to fill your time, including annotating reruns of shows from the '70s. 😉
One of the best ways to de-stress is through watching a salt water aquarium, even on a cell phone screen. You can look up the brain science, but here's the short version:
-- our brains are hardwired to notice motion, and especially to notice the motion of living things.
--When we don't have to hunt them, watching moving animals can fully engage our brains and squeeze out stress. A salt water aquarium with all sorts of living fish, turtles, anemones, plants, etc., can bring one through a divorce; a nasty-but-genteel, 3-week fight over an old maid aunt's financial power of attorney; and terrible medical news. Monterey (California) Aquarium has posted 11+ hours of videos. Penguins are cute but they don't move around enough to disengage worry; stick with da fishes (&the jellyfish!). Quick, who can name the 6-year American tv show i just referenced (tho i saw a sum total of 20 minutes of it over the years)?
There are other ways to both disengage from worry and the news, and everyone here is smart enough to know them. Fear, however, locks down much of our brains and doesn't let us see many things that can help us. A friend on lockdown on a high floor of a Chicago apartment tower normally walks his gorgeous city every day, taking pictures & posting them to us on Facebook. Today he asked us all to take a picture from our window & post. Unfair! He's got a right stunning view of Lake Michigan! I was in my bedroom, just done with my Smartvest, so i took a goofy pic: 15" tall weeds, AC compressor, dog faced away & trying to stare open the patio door. (gets put outside during neb treatments). My friend found nice things to say.
The point is, our creativity AND cheerleading skills will have to bring us through this. That is a hard statement in the face of depression and/or anxiety. We don't have a choice, tho. I will do my best to help lift you today, knowing that you will do your best for the next person along. Do the best you can or your own mental health, whatever your best is that day.
And Larry, you helped us all immensely by starting this post. You have got this survival thing down.
Peace, food and health to one and all
Aitarg
aitarg35939
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Oops. Should say,: Do the best you can FOR your own mental health, whatever your best is that day.
georgy0 larry49033
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Hi Larry 49o33,
I too, have been hit with the depression stick, to last a lifetime so I know, like you do, just how easy it is for this to raise it's head when we least or most, expect it. No Picnic in the Park, is it?
I guess you have lots of tools, to help with overcoming the worst parts, as given to you by well respected medical experts, by laymen, by every Tom, Dick or Harriet out there, and yet it still doesn't get any easier, does it? I have found humor to be my guide, so choose to watch favorite comedians on TV/computer/phone or wherever I can. Loneliness can make it a worse problem, even in a room filled with well-meaning and caring people, it can still be a lonely place. Coming into and leaving this world alone, unless a twin, is something we must all deal with and I found learning to accept that at an early age, helped me to be ready to face it. I cannot change that, nor can anyone else. The same can be said for depression. We are our own guide. Only us as individuals can find our individual way. I used to write long and epic pages of enormous weight about anything and everything I felt, but would do it as if I were writing a letter to someone I didn't see very often. That was such a plus for me, that I've often told others about it, hoping it would lift them into doing it. What I am trying to say is, find that space where you feel relaxed and at ease, put in place all of the things you enjoy, and go through them one by one, until something rings a bell to success. Then, employ that particular tool, to do the work of making that depression lighter.I hope this will help you, and while we may not know each other, I do know how it feels to have depression and have to face the fact of dealing with it myself. Once you're through the worst, the other side will be in your sights, to get to grips with for a happier day, and then another. Each one getting less burdensome, than the previous. Keep Trying, it will be worth it. Good Luck. Best Wishes in your Journey to Happiness again.
Reglois larry49033
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Here every thing is in strict lock down, I mean strict, the fines have now tripled for any one outside without their official papers signed and with the current date. People (city livers) can only take their pets within a 100 metre area of their block and for no more than half an hour. Me I have a lot more freedom as very few people live around here, garden are huge and neighbour far apart. Shop shelves full as normal, fresh produce readily available, no hand sanitizer though, that is the only thing that seems to be missing.
The supermarket in the nearest BIG town is only letting 20 people at a time into the building, strict personal space of a metre apart queueing outside, supervised by security, inside people have to keep a full aisle apart again security supervising. This is country wide
aitarg35939 Reglois
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over here, in Austin TX, the only suggested or enforced spacing rules are at checkout, for the comfort of the employees. Where i'm originally from, Corpus Christi, no spacing rules in any stores so far.
Reglois aitarg35939
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The big supermarkets, I don't go there, have now started allowing only 20 customers at a time into the shop, the rest have to queue outside with strict 1 metre distances under security watch, inside the 20 customers have to keep an aisle apart and only 1 customer to approach the till at a time. This is how strict the lock down is here.
aitarg35939 Reglois
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Sue, we are so far behind the curve and so bullheaded about it. Our Jerkwad in Chief turned up his nose at everything the WHO and China said months ago. It is a mere 1 week that he has begun to pretend to take this seriously. He still blames his political opposition, tho he no longer officially states that COVID is a hoax by me & all my fellow members of the opposition party.
We still allow people to go from store to store to store all day, buying up everything. I am so angry with people from the small coastal community where i grew up. After shopping the local store, and driving into town to shop stores that are at least a 30 mile round trip (100 or so miles if they hit every supermarket in Corpus Christi), they then go home, cross on the long bridge and drive another 46-50 mile RT to the one and only grocery store in Port Aransas on Mustang Island! It's a small store and their prices are higher just because it's the only grocery store on that entire 3-island system for more than 90 miles. That is a cruel thing for them to do. One of them had the nerve to whine about not having some chicken breast -- for one frickin' meal.
And on all that driving and store shopping, they are all spreading germs. Cold germs, flu germs, and some will spread COVID germs.
i've quit using the CV abbreviation after hearing Jerkwad in Chief refer to COVID as the "Chinese Virus", repeatedly. If he can't blame it on the Democrats, he falls back on xenophobia. Lovely man.
Gonna blame him for aggravating my arthritis, making me type all those extra letters every time, lol.
larry49033
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Common sense and not arrogance should be the order of the day. There are uneducated "experts" who will and do say the medical professionals are correct, but such "advice" does not apply to them. They qualify social distancing or isolating to suit their personal situation. They believe that the rules don't apply to them for one reason or another.
While it is true that Covid-19 is more dangerous for seniors and those with preexisting conditions (like COPD), restricting social activities also acts to slow down the spread of this virus. A healthy 28 year old (man/woman) may have an immune system that can resist contact with this virus, bit what about that 63 year old uncle/aunt with COPD that he just shook hands with.
It is time now to consider how our activities affect others around us. Let's think about that shut in who does not have a car and needs groceries. Call a friend/family member while at the pharmacy/druggist and possibly save them a trip that might get them infected. Yes we do need to care for ourselves, but rising to another level can make us all better people now and when this medical crisis is pronounced over.
All the Best.