DLA to PIP

Thank you Les.

I didn't know you could do it over the phone..

Hi laura

you will get an invitation to apply for pip and then you ring them first and then they will send the form out to you.

 

Just to clarify. To get the ball rolling in the transfer you have either to telephone the DWP and give them information they demand or you can ask for a PIP1 form which is a lot more comprehensive and gives you more options regarding the DWP being asked to look at evidence they hold from previous benefit claims.

If and when you pass that test you will be sent a form PIP 2 form which demands a lot more information about your difficulties, names and and addresses of all of the people that know about your difficulties (but the DWP very rarely get in contact with these people).

It is the first part that you have the option to telephone or fill a form in - PIP1 

The second part - PIP2 must be done in writing and posted off to the DWP - (however should the DWP lose that form then you are back to the scenario of having the DLA award cancelled etc because they would argue that you never sent the form PIP2 back to them in the first place!!)

Now at that point it is for you to prove that on the balance of probabilities that is was returned AND that the DWP had lost it.

Brilliant thank you for explaining Les..

So you send it by registered post and keep the receipt.  If you have Internet access, you can then check with Royal Mail to make sure they have received a signature.  All PIP applications are sent to mail handling centres for distribution to DWP, so I would advise everybody to get secure and track able proof of posting with a signature required.

Hi Pam, I agree entirely especially with what happened to me. But the claimant shouldn't have to go to such an expense. 

At one time (OK years ago!) all official government mail sent back in a prepaid envelope bearing OHMS ALWAYS found it's way to the desk of the officer responsible for your case.

Now it seems that the government are doing everything on the cheap and if it goes missing - it is up to the claimant to prove that on the balance of probabilities it was correctly addressed and the right value stamp was put on it. 

Talk about refusing to acknowledge responsibilty and if anything goes wrong with the system blame the claimant.

Yep, I agree.  They tell you that proof of postage is not proof of receipt - in other words if it goes missing and you have only obtained the basic proof of posting certificate instead of a tracked service, they will not admit receipt.  Seems to be the way of the world.  Everything is about money and statistics - the fact that these are living, breathing people and there are consequences to these actions seems be the last consideration.

Hi Pam that is exactly what they informed me. They even suggested that it was a problem between myself and the Post Office - the DWP were not involved!! Trying to get the Post Office to admit that they did not deliver both letters is something that is already a dead duck in the water.

Thinking about it, just for the sheer hell of it I am going to apply a SAR on the DWP - DLA/PIP offices and see what transpires. That will take about 6 weeks to come through.

That is good to know Chloe as i am having to move and was worried they would stop my money in the process..

Thanks for you response

Yeah I just got my award and it stops on the 6th September and PIP starts 28th .

I think if you are not successful with an award you dla finishes a month after decision letter.

Also it took 4 months for the whole process from phone call to award.

Has this been changed?  I was under the impression that if you were on DLA you stayed on DLA for 4 weeks after the decision is made and then transferred to PIP.  I've read a lot of discussions about it being unfair for DLA claimants who get a higher PIP award to miss out on the increase because it's not backdated to the date of application.

No it hasn't changed you don't get it backdated if you're on DLA

They can not award you PIP until a month after the decision 

Thankyou.  Thought that was the case.

My apologies for the error in my last post - there is indeed no back pay when transferring fromDLA to PIP. I had just spoken with someone who had had a successful tribunal on transferring to PIP and she had received back pay to the date of transferring to PIP, as the tribunal had awarded a higher rate,  Gets confusing at times !!

My apologies for the error in my last post - there is indeed no back pay when transferring fromDLA to PIP. I had just spoken with someone who had had a successful tribunal on transferring to PIP and she had received back pay to the date of transferring to PIP, as the tribunal had awarded a higher rate,  Gets confusing at times !!