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Do I deserve the bad things that happen to me?

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georgeGG
georgeGG

Well do I? Why does one person get the heavy end of the log? Why does another get good things and yet is cruel and bitter? Do our lives mean anything? Does the universe mean anything? Is there really anything to mean anything? Are we not here at all, just nothing at all dreaming a dream within a dream about nothing at all. Should I have gone to bed before I started dreaming about dreams within a dream?

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  • derek76
    derek76 georgeGG

    Posted

    I once read a science fiction novel about life in our world its people and their problems.

    It ended that we were not here at all. We were all in a program written and altered by scientists on another planet. Sorry cannot remember its name it was a very long time ago.

    • Shellesmalley
      Shellesmalley derek76

      Posted

      So what do you truly believe? GeorgeGG clearly has religion, personally I am all for the Big Bang/evolution maybe because it's more real/sane/normal/proven (I don't know the word I'm looking for - probably easy?) to accept we evolved rather than a man in the sky made two people and seven days immaculate conception and so on. Not rubbishing it at all in anyway, my seven yr old is a massive believer and I fully encourage her (bought her a lovely children's bible that I often read to her)as I believe it should be a choice. What would you close? Science, region or conspiracy?
    • derek76
      derek76 Shellesmalley

      Posted

      The religious conspiracy or the scientific one???

      I have never had any religious beliefs. If God created the world why did it take millions of years for anyone to realise it? What is the point of the rest of the universe if we are alone or cannot contact it.

      Were his early men and animals just experiments that did not work and he had to improve on. If we are created in his image why are we so different and why is man allowed to interpret his laws in such extreme ways that have had his believers warring over the centuries. Why when his believers found other continents did they enslave or wipe out its inhabitants. Are our war cemeteries and hospitals monuments to his glory and mercy?   

      Evolution and nature are truly wonderful and modern man is trying to destroy it..  

       

    • georgeGG
      georgeGG derek76

      Posted

      Thanks derek, that is a really intreging idea. What if it were true. We would be worse off than bees in a hive. That is a nightmare I would certainly wake up from in a hurry.

      Another interesting thrust is that authors often have a point or two they want to get over - something that worries them. Could you relate this, for example to politics in the West, or perhaps some other area?

      Or is there a God who manipulates us for his amusement. The ancient Greeks had this idea of their Pantheon of Gods making sport of the heroes of that time.

      MMM thanks. A lot to think about in your observation.

    • derek76
      derek76 georgeGG

      Posted

      Are we not all ants or bees working for a State that takes much of our earnings for the drones?

      The drone bee. How do I best explain the brief life of the honey bee male?

      I suppose it depends on your perspective on life. On the one hand, they:

      Spend their time drinking nectar, mating (in the air at that!), and lazing around on flowers.

      They do little around the home (a hive or, if a feral bee – perhaps a hollow tree or cavity in an old building somewhere).

      They help themselves to nectar stores, yet they don’t do much to help out with the kids (okay, okay, I’m humanising them a bit – the brood).

      Heck, they don’t even go out and get food for the family!

       

  • Guest
    Guest georgeGG

    Posted

    Deserve is not the right verb unless what happens to you is a direct result of what you have, or have not, done. When bad things happen there is often a discernible cause. Sometimes that cause is hard to isolate; at others it a mixture of unrelated matters that may come from that time or a previous time. Rarely can it be correctly defined as an accident.

    What lies behind your OP is curiosity; that is a natural preponderance for all of us with a 'normal' brain. Thousands of years ago man had little knowledge but a lot of curiosity. It was that curiosity that brought him out of caves looking for something better. There was so much curiosity that could not be satisfied - just looking at the sky every day and night must have presented man with enormous additional curiosity. Then the weather. Today we know a lot about our weather but still not enough and we yearn for more information about it to satisfy our needs, driven by that curiosity.

    So don't worry about curiosity; try to learn more to satisfy it.

  • SteV3
    SteV3 georgeGG

    Posted

    It's a strange question to ask George...

    In my case I would say "No" instantly, but that would have changed my life drastically if my "accident" did not happen when it did.

    I was 22 neraly 23 when my accident occured, now if the accident did not happen when it did, then I would have transfered to work for the same company but in the USA. My job would have been the same, but then I think what would have have happened to me in the US, would have I got married and had 3 great children, 2 boys and 1 girl - they are all doing well in Manager jobs, apart from my daughter who is still at school. She is totally different to the boys, very creative and artistic, and picks up things very quickly. One example, she was 10 years old and Xmas was coming and we asked her what she wanted as her main present, "I only want a sewing machine"! My wife and I were a bit unsure since a sewing machine can easily cause accidents, but we went ahead and bought her one. On Xmas day, she was online on YouTube watching tutorials - when she returned to school after Xmas and she went back to Creative Studies, she took in and showed her teacher. Her teacher was impressed, because they had not been taught about sewing machines yet - and Jess had made pyjamas, and a load of other things. The teacher asked Jess would she like to help other girls in the class if they got stuck, so not only had Jess taught herself how to sew using many stitching types she was miles in front of anyone in her class. The teacher asked her what she had done over the Xmas period, Jess said she had a sewing machine and taught herself how to use it correctly.

    Our two boys, both started out in college, one was a bricklayer and the other was a plasterer, they got their diplomas, then in the UK and many other countries many people last their jobs, this left both of them in awkward situations - fully qualified and no one was taking people on. They got the odd job here and there, but nothing permanent.

    Anyway, about 6 months passed - my eldest son got himself a job in retail, (bearing in mind he was a fully qualified bricklayer!). he worked himself until he reached Store Manager.

    A few more months went by and my middle son went back to college, this time in Vehicle Engineering, got his diploma and got a job - he's hoping to go up one more stage to work for Ferrari in the UK.

    So at the moment, okay I'm disabled - but my 3 children and my wife do me proud. I often look back thinking did I make the right choice, because their was another time when I was in my teens to work in New York, yet I turned that one down because I was working for British Telecommications, and it seemed stupid to give that up just to live in the US, without any job prospect at that point.

    I made the decision then because I was not sure of a job.

    The second time I had no choice, the accident actually stopped me going to the US.

    I often look back over the years, the good and the bad, and would my life had changed if I had taken the first offer in the US, and if so, where would I be today? Neurologists ask most Dystonia sufferers if they have ever experienced a bad trauma at any point in their lives - I have always said "No", but perhaps I have but have a mental block. Dystonia was the main cause of all my problems, but what caused it, well I will never know.

    As for my family today, I would not go back on anything. There have been good and bad times, and I expect many others have or will have paths to take, the problem is which one do you take? If I took my first option to New York, then the accident would not have happened, I would not have married my current or had 3 children, or would I but in the US?

    I could go around in circles never finding the end............................................

    Regards,

    Les.

    • georgeGG
      georgeGG SteV3

      Posted

      Thanks Les. To get the good of that super reply please would you remind of which of my strange questions you refer to. I would then have the context to get the full good from your reply. Looking forward to revisiting this very interesting Discussion. George
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