Do I need help!

 You can self refer at ADS, either by phone or online or drop in. They have a resident dr who can prescribe for detox, they check on you by phone.

good to see you back paper fairy, missed you

I would also like to know their connection to social services, as I have heard that a few times here, but have but unable to find any connection online.

I'd better say no more or I could end up saying things that the moderators here would need to clean up or delete

Everyone can be a charity these days, with donations from all sorts of political directions, it is a far cry from public funded charities.

I was told (by them) that they are paid on their success rate, and that sending someone to hospital was expensive and they avoided that at all cost.I live three doors down from a very nice village pub, where there are always friends to chat to. I wanted to go into a hospital enviroment to take me away from temptation, which is 20 seconds from my doorstep.

Not interested, didn't understand the psychology of having a nice friendly pub on your doorstep, with a great social life inside. I needed to be away from that, but they just didn't care.

Yes it is political and yes, for all others reading this, tapering is the best way to go. It takes a bit of willpower to cut down consumption every few nights, but is far easier than the madness of cold turkey.

I would question, how can you determine the best method, when you won't even allow the patient to explain their predicament and what they fear will happen. Surely the best way for people to be treated medically, is to analyse the mind and the body, i.e. mental state as well as bodily health.

And as Vickylou said below, quoting them " well we've always done it that way". It's that one size fits all, bash a square peg into the round hole, and don't worry about it if it breaks, for anyone reading that that doesn't understand, square peg is a metaphor for a human being.

For anyone reading this, try your GP, if no luck, try tapering off or try the drug that both Paul and Joanna have written about many times, either of who, I'm sure would be happy to answer questions on.

Routes to avoid, are Addaction and cold turkey, I'll get told off for saying it, but I'd try the latter before the former and I've tried both, neither were a pleasant experience for me. That last line was a bit tongue in cheek, cold turkey can be very dangerous.

I don't expect that she will be given a detox on Monday and fully expect her back on the phone to me.

As she was on a bottle of vodka a day, I wouldn't recommend that she tried The Sinclair Method without a detox first as she could take Nalmefene or Naltrexone, not feel like drinking and then go into severe withdrawal which could be dangerous.

With regard to your question about in-patient detox, it is extremely difficult to get this on the NHS. There are sometimes circumstances where a person's medical condition makes it essential and then it is more likely it will be offered but I have even seen cases where this has been denied (scandalous!)

We, ourselves, don't have a hospital and try to help people where we can but we can't take risks with people's lives and will do all we can to convince hospitals to admit people for the first three days and then we will pick things up after that but, as we not only stand to lose our registrations but also our liberty if we were considered to have acted in a medically neglectful way, our hands are tied, really and there ARE some cases where we really cannot help.

Home detox is safer in most circumstances than no detox at all and we always insist on a person (family member or good reliable friend) being present to act as supervisor during a detox, which would also help in a case like yours was as long as both the patient and supervisor recognise that this is a clinical procedure which needs to be taken seriously and that going out alone (anywhere) during it, is not an option if it is going to be safe and effective. If people can't agree to this, we can't take the risk of doing it.

I agree that in your circumstances at that time, an in-patient detox was the most ideal, but in the absence of that option, being 'sat on' (not literally, of course) with 24 hour telephone suppport and speaking to a qualified person before every dose as a minimum, is the next best option.

I suspect you will be getting that call on Monday, I hope something is done for her and that she is probably not that old if her father is involved.

But where is she going to go? Most GPs will not get involved, A&E will not take her unless she is admitted for another problem and the GMC, NHS and goverments preferred option is well, we know who they are and have discussed them at length. They will not detox her for at least two maybe three months, if she turns out to be a model student and jumps through the hoops.

No wonder people turn to the murky world of online medicine purchases.

She will come to us. I can't say more publicly as it is not appropriate for me to promote what I do in this forum. I come here to offer free advice and support where I can. I will happily answer any questions you have about what I do if you send me a private message