Endoscopy NO Sedation
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Hello, Had my first endoscopy a few days ago (I suffer from panic disorder) and was scared stiff of having it done the night before i was due to have it done i was thinking of not going.
As was going to have it with sedation but have read alot of horror stories on the internet about people gagging, being sick, pulling the endospope out, having to be pinned down So you can see way i was scared stiff.
But i found the courage to go to the hospital to have it done the nurse asked me if i wanted sedation i said no way so she said OK the dr will have a word with you.
The dr came in and asked me again about sedation and i said no so he said ok we will do it TRANSNASAL so no need to go through the mouth no need for sedation and I have to say it was a alright procedure a slight bit of dicomfit in the nasal passage (brought a tear to my eye) but i was able to breath properly and also talk no gagging and best of all NO sedation.
It took intotal 5 mins to have the endoscope done and a further 5-10mins in recovery and then home.
If you have one coming up phone and ask about having it done TRANSNASAL as it is a pleasent way of doing it.
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david47981 xtremx
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I'm 70 and had an endoscopy, with three biopsies, this morning, without sedation but with the throat spray - I certainly didn't want the rest of my day ruined by recovery from sedation.
If you relax, and concentrate on breathing slowly and deeply, then the procedure is not too unpleasant. I think I gagged twice after the tube had been inserted, and I could feel a nip when the biopsies were taken. I was surprised that the tube was quite thick, but realise it needs space for the biopsy tool as well. However, all things considered, the procedure was done efficiently, with discomfort kept to a minimum.
If I ever need it again, I will definitely go the same, no-sedation, route.
BettyE david47981
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sue46987 xtremx
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I don't think anybody on here realises how badly severe anxiety and panic really is. I hear be brave etc, you won't feel a thing etc, you won't remember etc. Please don't judge those who can't tolerate it.
I've put with pain and difficulty eating for years and avoided having it done in any shape or form for because I'm so terrified.
I have an extremely strong gag reflex and the simple act of brushing my teeth daily is bad enough. So many times I end up vomiting doing so. Using a small brush helped at first but is now becoming increasingly intolerable.
What am I supposed to do, not brush at all? I don't want rotten teeth. So I struggle on alone as nobody seems to understand nor be able to help me. I hate having this problem, I've tried so hard with it for so long.
I've had other procedures done which were barbaric considering which century we're in! The diazepam and gas and air didn't help at all.
I will have to be completely unconscious if they're coming anywhere near my throat with whatever it is.
kim25624 xtremx
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Had gastroscopy a few weeks ago together with colonoscopy (which failed and had to be redone). Was told I would have light sedation and, sure enough, they injected 2mg of midazolam and some pethidine (I weigh 73kg). However, the endoscopist was clearly in a hurry as literally 20-30 seconds after injecting me he said "well you've had the throat spray - that's the most important thing" and then started the procedure. It was the vilest thing that's ever happened to me and I had flashbacks for 2 days after. I gagged throughout. He kept telling me to swallow but I couldn't as my mouth was wedged open. The scope was the diameter of a hose-pipe. Eventually I raised my arm to try to have the procedure aborted but the assistant held me down with his body weight. Once it was finally over (and to be fair it took less than 5 minutes but I had no way of knowing it wouldn't take longer) no one asked if I was Ok. They simply told me I had a hiatus hernia and no tumour in my duodenum and spun the bed round to start the colonoscopy. I have since complained (NHS patient contracted out to private hospital) to be told that I misremembered, that there were 5 minutes between receiving the sedative and the procedure and that no one held me down. This is despite (a) it being clearly documented on the procedure report that the only medication was throat spray and (b) the nurse in recovery afterwards asking sotto voce if the endoscopist had "upset me" as the theatre nurse told her that he had. A friend of mine in healthcare complaints said that gastroscopy complaint letters always get this standard response.
Never again. I hope you all have better experiences but if not, please complain. Only if we all complain can we try to persuade endoscopists to practise humanely. There is no excuse for this in the 21st century.
lily65668 kim25624
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kim25624 lily65668
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ps I had my colonoscopy redone by the same surgeon a week ago and basically forced him to let the drugs have 5 mins to work. They caused a very zen-like state of calm with inability to experience negative thoughts or emotions or to reason properly. This was perfect and the colonoscopy was absolutely fine.
BettyE xtremx
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Well done for sticking up for yourself and glad it went so well.
I don't think that there are many medical professionals who are intentionally unkind or inconsiderate but there are too many who don't appreciate the stress involved for patients for whom the procedures are totally unfamiliar and apprehension is almost inevitable.
I think also that not enough weight is given to individual differences. When you were given time the drugs worked for you. It's not enough to be academically highly qualified; people skills matter, too.
kim25624 BettyE
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I think that is probably true. However, as the endocopists are paid per patient, the temptation for them must be to book as many as possible onto a list resulting in the inevitable time pressures and corners being cut. I also don't think, if I am honest, endoscopists care that much about the patient's anxiety or pain. They are more focused on getting the scoping done.
david47981 kim25624
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I think that is a little ungenerous! We know that NHS staff are overworked (or, at least, work very hard) but my experience of such internal examinations has been positive. I declined sedation for a colonoscopy as I wanted to drive myself home. I was continually asked how I was, and felt no sense of rush, nor did I feel much discomfort ( I was in my late 60s at the time.)
Of course, everyone's experience is different, but I've rarely had a complaint about NHS treatment.
kim25624 david47981
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Mine was a private doctor (contracted out NHS patient).
NHS is different because they are not paid per patient.