Eye floaters
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I've been reading through this forum (and a few others,) and have noticed that these seem to be a big cause for alarm and even triggering anxiety in those who otherwise do not suffer from being anxious.
I do suffer terribly from anxiety and my question is: can anxiety cause/make floaters worse?
I had an eye test a few months ago and was given the all clear (they tested everything,) so should I continue to worry that they are something awful, like a brain tumour? Or should I take comfort from my eye test.
I rang my opticians who said these are normal, she also checked my notes from my last visit and said that nothing was mentioned at any point through my test. She did say that I could go back to put my mind at ease.
I have been having awful trouble for nine months now with balance and dizzy/woozy issues which now seems to be effecting my vision.
I caught a virus in Feb which kicked this all off... I have been back in to much with my dr again (I have been back countless times,) and again I was told that nothing I said raised any alarm bells and that the issue (because I have crackling sensations and a feeling of water in my ear,) is with my ear...
I feel at my wits end anxiety wise. I'm convinced I have a tumour and I seem completely unable to stop my fear. My body feels riddled with fear and it's like I no longer 'trust' myself. Everything I experience I attribute to one factor, which doesn't allow for me to reason with myself like I used to.
I have started counciling and also have another GP appointment booked.
Could I really have something that EVERYONE is missing? It seems unlikely...but you read such horror stories on Google
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Alwaysalone Sillymop
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I just wanted to add something about the floaters you see.
They are actually bits of collagen that have shrunk down and clumped together casting a shadow, which is what you see. It occurs in the back of the eye in the vitreous.
It happens more as we age.
When you see them, try looking up and down several times, it usually helps to move them out of the line of sight. For some reason, looking up and down works better than looking from side to side.
They are a natural thing and generally do no more than annoy us.
I hope this bit of info helps with the anxiety and puts your mind even more at rest than the other posters have done already.
All the best.
helen20833 Alwaysalone
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Well I never knew that!
Thanks.....we all leanr from each other. Wonderful
tess33005 Sillymop
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I doubt it, Sillymop. Wait till you have your counselling before deciding.
Eye floaters are extremely common (I have had them for years) and cause no harm at all.
Plenty of doctors have told you that you haven't got cancer. it's time to believe them.
Love Tess xxx
Sillymop
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Thank you everyone for being so kind. It's greatly greatly appreciated! I really mean that. This thread has been so positive for me and it seems like it has for others as well which makes me feel less of a burden
katehippy Sillymop
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Hey hunni, just to add a tiny bit of practical advice on top of all these lovely comments...
Try letting the water run into your ears when you're in the shower, a minute each side usually helps get rid of that pesky crackling, and is only what the dr would do if you had them syringed. Helps me!
Lotsa love xx
helen20833 Sillymop
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Odd you should say that !
Because AD does not have particular visible symptoms that other can relate to, it's hard not to feel embarrased, ashamed or, as you say, a burden
But I learned to dispense with such negative thoughts, Mopsy (Mopsy because it's cute and suits you
)
I am quite open and unabashed by my AD/ Agoraphobia. Surprisingly the resonses of outsiders, ( LOL, my name for non AD sufferers ) has been positive
Being frank and honest about my illness dispensed much of the humiliation I once felt. Was I once ashamed? Indeed I was. But this was due to public perception of Mental Illness and the stigma attached
It's a sad state of affairs when Mental Ilness is regarded with such archaic viewpoints. If one is ill, one is ill, no matter what shape or form it manifests
However, I personally do not believe Anxiety Disorder and all it's offshoots falls into the Mental Illness catergory. I believe it is an Emotional illness, triggered by personal trauma
Mental Illness is easily diagnosed and there are many and varied treatments. Emotional Illness lags behind in that respect. More research into cause and effect, suitable treatments, needs to be put into place
The treatment for Emotional illness has, in my opinion, stagnated. Same old therapies, same old meds. Complaceny has set in with those who should, and could, research this ever growing problem which straddles the whole world
And that saddens me
Now I shall climb down from my soap box
Hugs to all fellow sufferers and strugglers
XXX
Anxious_Nick Sillymop
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Yes -- after my initial panic attack I noticed floaters. A lot. And was constantly worried about my eyes. Now, for the last 3 days, my eye physically hurts because I either have something in it or maybe lightly scratched it. And the thing is, now this "real" irritation has caused me to forget the floaters -- I don't really notice them anymore. So please don't worry. Easier said than done, I know. My eyes and health are a constant source of worry for me too. Feel better.
Sillymop Anxious_Nick
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I think I've latched onto the floaters because I feel so woozy and off balance all the time. It's like navigating on board a boat and it activates my brain tumour fear...I think the floaters were the last straw
tess33005 Sillymop
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Oh, Sillymop!
It'll be okay! You just wait. You haven't got a brain tumour. You haven't got the symptoms of one.
Floaters being the last straw isn't something rational because they're so common.
About three months ago I woke up with a mass of floaters which had appeared overnight. They formed into a weird shape. After two days (and an optician's appointment) I started to see thousands of tiny dots. In fact, quite a lot of them are still there - so I called the optician and he explained that they would gradually go away - and they have. But not altogether. The weird shape resolved itself into a large blob which is still there. The thousands of dots became hundreds.
I am hoping they'll all go away soon, like an unwelcome crew at a party.
Sillymop tess33005
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Thank you for your response. My anxiety was at a peak today and I was on the brink of going to the A&E because of how woozy and disorientated I felt. I felt a rise in panic minute by minute, my balance become worse - the woozyness increased and I began to feel queasy.
I am starting to calm down now and feel a little better
Sillymop
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It's really bad at the moment. I began to feel panicked by the sensation of woozyness and movement - convinced something was wrong - the woozy sensation and my balance were very bad and I've made myself feel queasy
I can feel myself calming down slightly but the thought that something is wrong keeps threatening to bring it back.
Anxious_Nick Sillymop
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Oh no! So sorry for this. I'm actually dealing with the floaters big time this morning too. I was noticing them like 2 weeks ago and had bad anxiety, but then slowly forgot about it and moved on to worrying about other stuff. But this morning I'm running on 0 sleep and very stressed...and so they're back! I understand your frustration completely. Please trust me...there's nothing seriously wrong with either of us! It'll be okay. Feel better
helen20833 Sillymop
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Hi my Mopsy
You're panicking honey. It's making the woozy/balance problem worse.
You've got your mind crying for the floaters to disappear and for the balance to adjust and the wooziness to fade
Now you feel sickly
Sweetie, it's all anxiety induced. No brain tumour believe me. You have no symptoms that relate to a brain tumour, none whatsoever. The problem is you're focusing on your symptoms, cringing from them, fighting for them to go away
Hand on heart I've had all those symptoms and they're vile. And I'm still here, years later, annoying the hell out of everyone
Honey, calm down. I swear nothing bad is going to happen to you! Nothing at all.
Big ole hugs
Helen
Sillymop helen20833
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Thank you
I am doing just as you say, I'm desperate for it to go away and I keep fighting it, despairing it etc etc etc.
I've booked myself in for an opticians appointment to ease my mind this Friday, as they said on the phone. I have so many good things at the moment that I want to stop doing this
I know it's been a bad few months...well, a year really
a lot has happened but things seem to be on the up now - apart from this!
Thank you so much for coming back I hoped you would - your advice is so good X
helen20833 Sillymop
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Hey Mopsy,
It's not what happens to us, it's how we deal with it honey
I know you have had bad times. But no looking back, okay? WE cannot change things by mulling them over, feeling sad they ever happened. Wishing they never had happened. All we can do is make ourselves miserable raking over them time and time again
The past is just that. Past, gone, nothing we can do about it
Tomorrow? Who knows what that will bring. But whatever it is we deal with it, face it
It's today that counts. There here and now. People with AD, more than any other, have to live "in the moment" Remember I said baby steps? Take each hour in half hour chunks. Make the best of them because you'll never get that precious time back
Life is to be lived
Carpe Diem, honey, Sieze the Day..by the scruff of the neck lOL
Hugs Helen
Sillymop helen20833
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Yes... Living in the moment is something I need to try harder at. I do often linger in the past and this is definitely one of my problems. I cause myself a lot of pain.
I react so terribly to this sensation and my legs begin to shake. I can feel pressure in my ears and sinuses as if they are filling up, and it comes back - which makes sense if it is what my Drs suspect - but other things bring it on too. Being at work (I worry people will notice something is wrong and I fight it constantly - when I come home I'm then exhausted.) shops can do it too, as can crowds. When I'm outside I can feel a lot better.
Lolasmom Sillymop
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The pressure starts in my face, in my checks, must, eyes and lower forehead. Then my left ear and left nostril plug and I become all off balance.
Can you relate?
Sillymop Lolasmom
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Lolasmom Sillymop
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Do you get it daily? And what do your doctor's say. I have had this for several years daily. I kinda relate some of it to cloud movement
helen20833 Sillymop
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Mopsy
NO, no, no! Naughty Mospy. You must not try harder. That's fighting. It's about accepting, honey. Accepting the past and letting it go.
Holding yourself tense at work in case anyone notices anything amiss, is adding to your stress load. All that tension, the bunching muscles, struggling to hold it all together, are wearying. No wonder you are exhausted when you get home.
What do you fear they will see anyway?
I suspect you are embarrassed by your AD. Frightened if people suspect you suffer with it they won't understand, they will think you're not "Normal. "
It's a common fear. But your main priority is yourself, your recovery, and not the opinions of others.
There's a saying:
"Those who care, don't matter. Those who matter don't care "
Think about it
When we are exhausted with our "nerves " shops, crowds, all that noise, the bustle, the cacophany of voices and fluorescent lighting, are anxiety triggers
So you go about your day, wound tight as a spring. Tense. You return to the sanctuary of your home and...You literally let go of it. The result?
You're worn out.
And why?
Because all day long you have been in the vicious circle of anxiety/fear/fighting/desperation
Know your enemy, Mopsy. Learn all you can about how AD affects you, write it down and write down how you think you can help yourself
Hugs again
Helen
Sillymop helen20833
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Thank you, Helen.
I fear them 'finding out', because I fear they will regard me as some psychotic crazy who they wonder why they hired
every time I fail to learn or pick up tasks quickly at work I berate myself - and then I blame my woozyness/brain fog: "if only this went away I would be okay."
So I've come to fear it and in turn, fear being at work... It's a vicious circle. Every day feels like a vicious circle.
Like you say...I keep fighting it. I want the feeling to go away - I want to get back to normal so badly that I cry to myself, not knowing what to do. I feel like no one will help me
I'm frightened of what it could be, frightened of myself and everything in between. What makes it worse is I feel like such a failure...
I feel like I'm waiting for the dizziness and balance problems to go away, so I'm permanently waiting and permanently fighting. And yes as you very rightfully say I'm wound tight as a spring to the point where sometimes my body just aches - or I get so tired I feel like I have no energy left, like my sugar levels have plummeted.
I want to be free of my fear and to breath again, I want my life back
helen20833 Sillymop
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Oh Mopsy, you noodle!
You've dug yourself into a deep hole
There is a greater knowledge and acceptance of Anxiety Disorder these days. Would it be so hard to explain calmly to your work colleagues
that you suffer from AD?
No one would think you were psychotic! They know you so why would they instantly change their opinion
Trying to hide your AD is imprisoning you. And what is it you fear so much? You fear what it could be? What do you truly think it could be?
You won't be free, Mospy, until you accept your AD. If you cannot disclose it at work then I understand. But you yourself have to come to terms with it
That's the path to recovery
Sillymop helen20833
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I have fought it all my life
I started to have anxiety attacks very young around five or six years old. It caused a lot of upset in a household that already had a lot of upset... In my mind, it made things 'worse' - it was a bad, unhelpful reaction and I began to fear what I could do, and how it affected those around me.
As I've grown I've learnt to hide it. And I've done well for a long time...but this year has brought a few things to a head and then this dizzy/disorientation...it's too much. It scares me because it won't go away, and I usually do let go of my obsessions after a while.
In my mind because it won't go away it must mean something is wrong. I can't seem to accept its 'just my ears'
Yes I am in a hole... I hide away a lot and only feel comfortable with two special people to me. I often shy away from friends and make excuses not to see them (I don't know why,) sometimes going out can seem so hard.
Then I got this and I feel it's debilitating
helen20833 Sillymop
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Mopsy, dear
Tell me, tell me what you think it means?
And remember, you have had AD since you were 6 years old by your own admission. Yet here you still are
What is it you're afraid of, honey?
You were a little child. If you household was unstable then it's no wonder you started with AD. Kids need security, to feel safe. You were an innocent baby. How could you possibly have made things worse? Whatever was going on, and I'm not prying by the way, was not your fault
Maybe you do need to sort out your feelings/emotions from the past. Have you had therapy? One to one talking?
Sillymop helen20833
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I'm having therapy at the moment, it's early days but I deliberately sourced it out after recent events.
Someone related to me was emotionally abusive. They were diagnosed with an issue they didn't want to have evaluated or monitored, so the behaviour grew worse. From anger, constant teasing and barating, accusing me and my other sibling of ruining their life to finally almost cold indifference.
I got away, physically. I thought I had got away entirely. This year that person died. I was told early this year they were sick... They didn't make any attempt at an apology. I say I didn't expect one but a part of me hoped.
Their new partner hounded me to see this person... When I said no and why I did not want to, I was called a liar.
That hurt most of all. I felt my identity had been ripped away.
A few days later this person who had been a huge shadow in my life died.
Gone without a trace.
People who should have told me of their passing didn't...I wasn't even told when and where the funeral was. I found out on Facebook the evening of the funeral. It was too late then.
I feel a bit like a husk, trying to find myself. I became so frightened that because this person was sick that I could get sick too - every day I feel dizzy and woozy I panick that this is it.
I don't want to die too.
Sorry for so much info.
helen20833 Sillymop
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Oh Mopsy!
It strikes me you feel guilty and that since you "escaped" so to speak, you have been hiding, from yourself, the past, all the bad memories and the relation who hurt you emotionally
Now that person has passed away you have to face your mixed feelings
People make choices, honey. You personally did not nor could not ruin their life. Some people become embittered and do that all by themselves then blame others because they cannot face the truth. That they are the one who got it wrong
I understand your desire for an apology. But I don't believe it would have wiped out all the burdens you carry from the past
I can also understand it was painful, insulting, not to be informed of their passing. I suspect your feelings for this person are confused? Anger but love also?
Funerals are a ritual. Laying to rest, not just the person, but our own feelings. Forgive her. I think it's a female. Let her go. Go somewhere quiet, light a candle, place a plant in the garden. Whatever. Have your own ceremony. More for your sake than hers
Forgive. Forgiveness lifts a huge burden from us. Hoarding bitterness never heals
You may well feel like a husk. The person is gone. No chance now of a resolution which I suspect you wanted, And the fact that she was sick in no way means that you too should get sick either. Get that notion out of your head.
You are not going to die
You are going to live
But how, Mopsy, are you going to live? Remember I said people make choices. You must choose now. Do you drag the past and it's hurts into your future? Or do you forgive, say your own personal godbye and let go
Then start living your life
Sillymop helen20833
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It was a man..the only thing I knew to do was write a letter to that person. I turned it into a paper plane and flew it out to sea. I felt them with me as I did it - which is odd because in life that person dos very little with me. I have a few happy memories. A handful. That's all I have left of twenty years of my life.
There are a few people in my town (I live in a small town) who have listened to my relatives partner and someone else (I can't say more about who, I'm sorry
) and I feel like I am the one hiding. I was a victim of my relative and somehow, their death has turned the tables.
I didn't ask for any of it.
It made me realise my mortality. Every time I feel woozy that bites at me.
helen20833 Sillymop
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I'll be honest, I thought you were talking about your Mom
The letter flying out to sea? That's beautiful, Mopsy. That moment you felt them with you? He probably was
Take that moment, take the few happy memories. Because something is always better than nothing
Gossip is almost always cruel and in some cases unfounded. Rise above it. You know the truth.
Above all else we cannot live life dwelling upon our mortality or fearing illnesses
Today counts. Make it count for you
And I am so, so sorry, Mopsy
Sillymop helen20833
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Thank you so much for your guidance..I genuinely mean that. I feel quite blessed that you responded to my post yesterday, what you have said has not only helped me but soothed me and made me understand a few things.
I hope my health anxiety subsides soon and my mind is put to rest
helen20833 Sillymop
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I hope you feel better soon too, Mopsy
It's a terrible thing to feel anxiety/confused and scared
You can get in touch with me anytime. Sometimes "talking " helps, especially when it's with someone not "involved" Outsiders can look at things with an unjaundiced eye
Mind you, I get things wrong as well, But I'm a tryer, God help me. Like a dog with a bone !
In my defense, most people with AD are control freaks. They hate not being able to solve anything, put things right, things beyond their control
Mind you, we're not psychos, honey. Perhaps more vunerable, more caring than your average person.
You will notice on this Form, we look after our own
Hugs
Helen xx
Sillymop helen20833
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I am so glad I found this site. For the past few months it's been my life line.
I am a control freak in that sense! Constantly monitoring, solving and fixing! If I can't fix or rectify something I feel at a loss. I try not to be controlling over those I love... But I do need reassurance that they are safe when I am not with them. Constantly sometimes.
At the moment my nearest and dearest are at a loss with me as I keep going back to the drs or seeking reassurance...
My dr seemed to think that while I do have a problem with my ears, my anxiety has latched onto it and made it far worse. I think the only way I would truly let go of it is if I were to have a brain scan - but unless I pay privately, they feel there is no need to send me for those tests.
I've been given some ear treatment now to try and see if that helps but my anxiety stirs and it tells me that the dr is only doing this to eliminate probably causes and then she might think a scan is needed.
Oddly I am terrified of having a scan incase they find something so I am damned if I do and damned if I don't.
All in all I am very tired lol
helen20833 Sillymop
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There you go! It's all about control
The worst thing with AD, the reaon we freak out, is because we have no control over it....or so we think
But we do have control if we care to take it, as I mentioned in an earlier post
Believe you me, had your GP suspected a need for a brain scan he would have arranged for one. You don't need one Mopsy. None of your symptoms relate to diseases of that nature, Naturally your GP will try to eliminate the obvious but..he would not ignore signs had he suspected there was something serious.
They eliminate the serious then move on to the obvious
They know what to look for honey. We don't. They make a diagnosis based on their medical training. AD sufferers make a diagnosis based upon fear
Trust me on that
Helen
Sillymop helen20833
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Wow... That hit home: "AD sufferers make a decision based on fear." How true you are...
I like how you call us AD sufferers. I didn't know it had a name to be honest. I've always referred to what I have as anxiety, but I didn't really know that it was as much of a thing as say, depression is. I didn't think it felt deserving of a name..when I have told people about it I only ever refer to it as 'bad anxiety' and this is usually said by me with a big element of guilt. A sort of 'how dare I have this stupid thing' - giving it a name makes it feel like it isn't quite my fault as I thought it was. That I'm genuinely not doing it deliberately.
I get very upset when people tell me to 'shake myself' or when they say 'you have nothing to be anxious about so stop it' - because when anxiety hits me, it's like a knock out punch and I am incapable of shrugging it off. I don't know about you, but guilt over my feelings is a big factor which can turn into a vicious circle.
You are also right... My dr would have sent me away. I was worried perhaps I hadn't been honest enough and blamed anxiety on it...but even so I think he would have still picked up on my symptoms of he felt they needed exploring. Even people with anxiety can get things and I think he would have checked this.
helen20833 Sillymop
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Ah yes, the "Pull yourself together " brigade!
Couldn't you just kick them up in the air?
Cruel buggers!
Anxiety Disorder is a true illness. It's not about having nothing to worry about. Whatever emotional/physical trauma ignites it, once it is entrenched you have an illness that affects, I believe the last statictics were, 1 in 3 people
To hell with feeling guilty. AD is enough to cope with without adding unnecessary guilt
Sillymop helen20833
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I will keep you updated
please keep an eye for me - I really appreciate your advice
helen20833 Sillymop
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Laters, Mopsy
xx