Feeling sick...

Hi Missy! thanks for the words of advice. I do not have any problems with allergies. This has only been since the baclofen. Sounds like we are both finally on a good path!! So glad! I'm at work so my resonses will be spuratic. Lol.

I think that we don't see the letterbox underneath our own posts,I can see one under your post

Thanks for telling me that. The brain cells are Definatly rotting away ! I hope Paper fairy reads my reply that I did this morning about '' Pain and something Ben.... some thing " I need some support on that. Paper fairy started that disscusion yesterday if anyone wants to have a quick look.

Hi Nicole.I've still not figured out how you P M without a Letter Box ! ? I feel really stupid now. Susan

Can you see a letterbox underneath this post?

'Why do I not have a Letter Box underneath my name'

Because you can't PM yourself, everyone else can see it.

Everyone else will have the letter box under their name unless they have diasabled their PM system.

Susan, as nicole says, look for the letterbox under the name of the person you want to send the PM to. If you want to check PM's sent to you, look to the top right of (for instance) this page and you'll find a letterbox to the right of your name.

I just cant imagine what else it could be. Can I go through late withdrawal? Just seems the baclofen has made me feel flu like.

20mg a day?

Not used it myself, but don't think that is anywhere near enough. Side effects without the advantages?

Do you think maybe it's not the baclofen? Its definitely frustrating whatever it is. I just don't wanna drink. I made it this far and I'm afraid of relapsing due to feeling so sick. It's like that addict feeling that I know a few beer will cure it. But I can't drink just a few.

Yes you are right,I didn't have side effects at this level,in fact I started on 30mg a day

Baclofen is used to help relax certain muscles in your body. It relieves the spasms, cramping, and tightness of muscles caused by medical problems.

I just copied this from a page....are you taking this drug for alcohol problems?  Doesn't sound like that is what it is for.  Try CAMPRAL

Hi Missy! Look up Baclofen for alcoholism. I also have a book about it. Many people on here have tried this method. Most failed. But, it has been used to help withdrawals and cravings. I'm not sure why I feel the way I do. But I've stopped taking it and will call my doctor Tuesday and ask about Campral. Thanks! I want to jump on the other forum you started that's going crazy with answers. Things are quite busy with work and feeling like crap. Glad you're doing well.

Well I hope you are feeling better soon.

I'm really surprised with the Campral...I have had a tough couple of days...days I may have usually drank over...and its weird...I have a calm "affect" about me...and my first thought is not a drink.  And if I do think of a drink...it doesn't go thru all the feelings like (it would taste good, it would feel good, f-everyone)...it stops at "drink right now"!

And then I honestly forget about that thought...and move on.

 

Thanks Missy!

I'm glad you're doing so good.  Seems like more people are staying abstinent on Campral.  I feel better about calling my doctor after the holiday.  I'm glad you're doing so well on it!  

Right now my thoughts are to get through the next few days.  I have group therapy on Wednesday and at first I didn't think it was helping but last week the group was of great assistance with a problem I have.  That itself is a long story.  

I'm glad I decided not to leave the forum.  And I'm really glad you are doing so well!  

I titrated up in Baclofen till I reached the point that I couldn't drink wine if you paid me but due to going down to fastl I lost my switch and my doctor had the the major hump with me do I felt I had no choice but to stop.

It is a miracle drug as far as I'm concerned bug needs more research re the side effects.

The research is being done and one day it will be licensed for AUD

If you had to start again tomorrow, would you choose it?

Sorry to barge in as your question was for Nicole.

Answer..no no and no.

If it had no side effects, maybe. But I can't see how they can change this so NO !

I'm actually considering it but take it a lot slower.But then I remember how out of if I was and think no.

I just want that feeling back of not wanting to drink

Did you reach indifference PF?

Probably not Nicole. I can't remember as it was 5 years ago, maybe longer. Probably it did help initially. I continued to function, socialise and work. And bring up 3 children. But it made me feel sick most of the time, lethargic, flu like symptoms, plus other side effects I'd rather not discuss on a public forum. It was amazing re insomnia. In fact I ended up taking them at night to help me sleep. Though if anyone has a history of overdose, as I have, no way will a doctor prescribe it. X

So, I'll put you down as a maybe then?

Yes,I'm actually taking 30mg a day at the mo but will leave it a few weeks before taking more and monitor my symptoms.

Last time I reached indifference in 16 days which is a stupidly quick time

RHGB..you do make me laugh !!!😂

One day I was drinking 3 bottles of wine and I had to titrated up to 180mg and the next day I went to work and realised by lunchtime that I didn't want any wine that night.That lasted 16 days till I went down to fast and the urge came back again

Seriously Nicole. Baclofen did not make you sober and able to enjoy life. It gave you horrible side effects. You and your desperate determination did that and you stayed sober. You did it, not baclofen. You sound like you are very determined so you will make it. Campral or Sinclair, you will do it xx

Sorry, I seemed to have missed a bit, probably during my few 'days off'.

I thought you were still on nalmefene, have you switched to Baclofen? Am I reading it right or just having a senior moment.

I'm confused too. I think Nicole has naltrexone on stand by but may I may be muddling her up with someone else. Yes senior moment too!!

I know I said I have naltrexone on stand by

I'm still on Nalmefene but chucking a bit of Baclofen at it

I'm still on Nalmefene but trying a small dose of Baclofen with it

I'm not your old man (as in father) so I am not going to lecture you. Baclofen/naltrexone (I know you are on nalmefene) has been tested on rats, but not humans as far as I know.

So take it easy. I know I'm the sort of person that would mix and match, but not everyone has to be as stupid as me.

I just feel(and I know it won't go down well on here)that Nalmefene isn't working for me.I think that when I was taking naltrexone it was working better but chose to go the NHS route as it was cheaper and everyone aside Nalmefene was the same as naltrexone.I did an experiment the other day and took both Nalmefene and naltrexone and I drank seriously less

This isn't the Selincro club, it is one way of trying to combat addiciton.

There are many others, if you find one that works, stick with it.

Campral isn't for most people, because they don't want to not drink for the rest of their lives. It serves a purpose for some, but I wouldn't advocate it as the ultimate solution.

Do what you find works for you.

Yup Kelly..thank you for not giving up on the forum.

We all need to hear things sometimes we don't want to hear.  I think it is a general trait for people that drink to want to escape any kind of "bad" feelings.

And glad you are getting "into" group!  It all helps...even if it is just "seed planting" for future recovery.  Keep it up!

 

Good morning Missy!  

I'm going to pass on the conversation about what I didn't want to hear on the forum.  Trying to remember that I'm in charge of my own recovery and I need to do what works for me and take the advice I need and leave the rest.  I did get a few good things out of AA even though I choose not to attend.

Today is day 12 without drinking.  I stopped the baclofen a few days ago.  Missy, I actually took an allergy pill yesterday.  I "might" have felt a bit better but nothing to brag about, lol.  I'm going to take another one today.  I just gott off a 4 day weekend/holiday stretch of working.  Although it was quite hectic, I think it was much needed to occupy my mind.  

I just need to get through today and then I'm back on two more days.  Then I have 3 days off over the weekend.  My 19 yr old step daughter who lives in Missouri is coming on Saturday to visit for a month.  We haven't seen her in 3-4 years.  It's a surprise for my husband (her dad) so I can't wait to see the look on his face when she gets here.  Although it's something great I can't help but think negative.  Like my husband has been sick and getting a lot of tests done to see what's wrong.  It's so early in my sobriety that I'm not sure I can deal with a house guest for a week let alone a month!  Trying to stay positive!

Group therapy has been of great help with the exception of one guy who won't let up on the AA preaching.  Of course he's perfect!  He just got arrested for dancing intoxicated in the streets at 1 am. Lol!

I've still been tired and feeling like crap but taking it one day at a time.  Last night it was one second at a time as I really wanted to stop for beer on my way home from work just to feel my kinda "normal"....again insanity!

It's always great hearing from you.  Glad for the email notifications )  

Hang in there, Kelly! It'll all work out ok.

Can you take a different route home so you avoid the visual triggers that make you want to stop off for a drink? 

I only have one route home.  As long as I don't make that "one" left turn on my way home I'm good.  So, I don't actually pass the places I stop for alcohol.  I just have to keep going forward.  Literally!  

I called my husband and asked him to pick up milk.  I just dont feel strong enough to leave the house today but I'm feeling O.K.  Staying in pajama's until tonight.  That's my goal for today.  

Hanging in there!  

Cool! You're getting there, Kelly! Let us know how it goes with your doc.

Thanks ADE!  I've decided to go a few days without medication.  Only because I'm overly sensitive to everything.  I did as Missy said and took some allergy pills and I think I feel a bit better.  Not sure if it's because I'm not on the baclofen or because I actually have allergies, lol.

Should I feel the need for medication I will call ASAP.  

Ready for work tomorrow and group therapy!  

Thanks for your support!

Hope all goes smoothly tomorrow! 

The Campral can take a couple of weeks to kick in, so might be a good idea to put the bug in your doctor's ear soon, so the Rx is on tap when you're ready to start it. Hopefully he can just phone it in for you?

Thank you.

I did know the Campral takes awhile to start working.  My doctor is very good about just calling a prescription into the pharmacy.  As long as she knows I have 2 weeks sober she'll help me out.  I do love my doctor and that's a plus.

All good news, sounds like you're set then!

Kelly you have alot on your plate!  Ha...the allergy pill...was it a prescription allergy pill? mine helped alot.....

Was the stepdaughter thing a surprise put on by YOU?

Um..in early days of sobriety I COULD NOT HAVE DAYS OFF....I didn't take a day off for a year..I was petrified...so I give you so much credit for making it thru those days...

It s*cks that you are craving a beer to feel normal.  Seriously, maybe try Campral....it really is helping me...I believe it is helping me after the day I had yesterday and my need to "escape" which I did NOT.  

On the three days off over the weekend...do something for yourself to get some gratficiation before the big visit begins. 

This may sound GAY...but I have taken up coloring.....and I have found when I get really angry or stressed..and I grab my coloring bag....with colored pencils, markers, crayons...I feel like I grabbed a beer...I am able to block everything out..I don't color long...but I color until my anger or stress subsides...

I bought like a little 5 dollar bag at our Family Dollar store to keep all my coloring "tools" in....it feels like a special bag...its MINE....and it is a healthy escape.

So different when I say...leave me alone I need to color right now...than leave me alone...I need this frigin drink in peace.

Hey Missy. Just getting to leave work. Taking Claritin. Over the counter. My doctor is on vacation. I can't get the Campral. I'm going insane. I think I'm going to use the naltrexone. I don't know if I can hold on til Monday for meds. My brain is so foggy.

Well, you certainly don't have to drink on the Naltrexone if you're just using it for a bit till you can get the Campral. It's just that Naltrexone doesn't work in the longer term if you abstain while taking it.

 

I already blew it.  Two weeks without a drink and I couldn't take the way I was feeling.  I guess it was expected.  I didn't know I could take the naltrexone if I wasn't drinking.  So used to TSM that I just forgot about it.  Brain fog!  But, I do know I need to start the naltrexone tomorrow.  

Why do I feel like such a loser?  Ugh!  Thanks for responding.  I'm not giving up!!!

You probably feel that way because of all the programming that came from what was a false narrative about AUD in the first place. You have my permission to cast that aside as the utter tripe that it is. 

 

Sorry Ade. I'm confused.

Roughly translated, it means you're not a loser. You're just looking for a way to break free from Alcohol Use Disorder and you haven't found it quite yet. But I think you're getting very close to it.

You made me cry. Probably because I'm over emotional. Sober or drinking. I'm so glad I have such a supportive husband. I forget so much on here. What are you doing to stay sober?

I'm using TSM, down from 80+ beers per week to 18 as of last week. I think this week will be even lower as I've only been having one pint per night (1 pint = 1.3 12oz beers). 

That's great Ade! I'm looking forward to starting tomorrow. Are there nights that you don't drink at all? If not do you skip the naltrexone?

I've had a couple of AF days so far. If I feel the craving, I just follow the One Hour Rule. With TSM, instead trying to escape the craving, you hunt it. It becomes your prey. I'll put in the link with the info on how to get started in case you haven't seen it or could use a reminder:

https://patient.info/forums/discuss/naltrexone-nalmefene-selincro-the-sinclair-method-hints-and-tips-505275

Let me know if you need any other info, for sure!

 

I think you may need a prescription allergy medicine...I have one it is called Singular (montelukast) it is an anti inflammatory to help with allergies and CAN help asthma...

So if you can't get the Campral..how are you going to get the Naltraxone?  Is it that you want to drink and are not "done" yet?  Thats a horrible feeling.  With the Campral I don't feel that way...I THINK...I'm not even SURE....I just know I have had some rough feelings...that I have drank over in the past...and I am not drinking.

I got denied disability yesterday..and that thru me for a loop. And the good side was they decided to look at it again because of my neuropsychology report....shows alot of impairment in cognitive ability.  But, my lawyer said it doesn't mean it will get approved.  

That statement will ususally send me to a tizzy..and a drink....I'm on Campral and did not drink.  If I were on Naltraxone...I would drink and I just feel like keeping alcohol in my system is not healthy for me and would lead to a never ending .....battle again. .

Has anyone on here..used Naltraxone and eventually just said "eh- I don't need to drink!"?  I don't know...I really haven't seen anyone progress to that level YET.

About 40% decide to give up drinking up entirely Misssy. 

Kelly has the Naltrexone on hand, but wasn't certain about wanting to start it, so ended up going with the Baclofen instead. She can get the Campral when her doc is back in town.

Glad to hear you have another shot at the disability, Misssy! Keeping my fingers crossed that it comes through for you.

Thats right...thank you for reminding me that Kelly has the Naltraxone...my memory is bad...really bad...

But, even thou she does have it....didn't people say it takes time to work?  I just think keeping going with the sobriety is better than adding alcohol to the distress that she is already feeling and i wanted her to think about that.

Yea, my disability drives me to drink in itself!  Thank you ADE.

I think if she needs to use it for a short time to cut the craving, it should do the trick till her doc gets back. That's what it's typically prescribed for anyway, to be taken to help ensure abstinence. It's only that it doesn't work well for that over the longer term. TSM comes at it from a different angle, and instead of taking the pill every day, you only take it on the days you drink. But I think Kelly was just considering using it to stay dry till she can get the Campral.

Thanks ADE...and glad you are doing well with your drug for cutting down...i read it about 1/2 hour ago...and I think it is the Sinclair method...but I do remember you went from 80 beers to about 18 (something, I'm not perfect and don't want to scroll...because this computer is working on the site).  

Since you told me to use Chrome it works about 95% better...it will still lag on me (mostly if I type a long message) seems it gets tired of me...lol

Yeah, sounds like your laptop might need a bit of a tune-up. Sometimes as the hard drive inside the laptop gets fuller, it get slower and drags the system down, sometimes people pick up some malware/spyware and that drags the system down. 

Yes, two weeks I was within the low-risk drinking range, popped up a little higher for last week (18 total), this week should be back down as I'm not wanting much more than a pint for the last couple of days. All is proceeding according to plan so far.

Well, at least there are options for people. That's what's important.  

Except Kelly did not stay dry

I am taking Claritin.  Although I seem to feel better since I drank last night.  Insanity of course. 

I do have the Naltrexone on hand.  I used the Baclofen the first week and nothing at all the second week.

I have read stories where people did cut back drastically and also people that quit after awhile of taking the Naltrexone.  I made a chart of the amount I drink on this pill and hopefully (if I have no terrible side effects) I will lessen the amount of alcohol I drink week to week.  

At this point the baclofen did not help and trying it without medication did not help.  So, I gave into temptation last night.  

Now I will try the Naltrexone.  Should that not work I will try Campral.  I refuse to give up and my goal is to become abstinent.  

 

You didn't take the Nal either, so all is within parameters. Worry naught, you're on the way. 

Within parameters?

Within expectations. I would expect you to have a drink if you didn't have a med in your system that would help you resist it. 

Understand. Yes, you're correct. I would drink with or without the pill. Also, The bottle says do not operate machinery. Do not drink alcohol as alcohol might intensify the effect. I suppose that's for precautionary reasons. I'll let you know how things go. Thank you for your help !!!!

You're welcome! I'll keep an eye out for your update, Kelly! 

Yay..your fighting!  Claritin did not work for me and I knew it was allergies...because nothing was forming into a cold..and my eyes were so swollen...

Glad you have a plan Kelly..

Thanks Missy! I have been a bit reluctant to start the naltrexone. But, anything is worth a try as I'm tired of relapsing every 2 weeks. I told Ade I'd make sure to give an update after I start it tonight. I have no intention of giving up. My goal is still abstinence but if I can reduce my alcohol intake in half I'll be happy for now.

I should say "great"..."good luck"..but then I would not be ME...if I did that...I do wish you good luck...truly...and then here are my thoughts on Naltraxone....I took a drug that was supposed to keep me from smoking...by reducing my desire and eventually I would stop.  My friend and I did it together...it worked for HER...and not for me.

Because, I was not getting the satisfaction from my cigs (the drug was blocking the pleasure thingy in my brain)...I just kept smoking more to achieve that effect.  Which I NEVER did....and then it was making the cigs taste like "sh*t"....and I said.. Forget this!  

My friend has not smoked in over 5 years....I'm still smoking..the method worked for her and not me....so because of that experience and reading what I have read about drugs like Naltraxone...blocking pleasure receptors...or something like that.....I know I would instead give up the Naltraxone! 

I'm grateful that after this hospital visit...I for some reason...do not automatically think of a drink..and I do attribute that to the Campral as it is a craving drug...working on a different part of the brain.  I KNOW I can drink on it...I don't know if it would reduce my pleasure from it...but I do KNOW I won't get sick (or so I was told).

I HOPE the Naltraxone works for you and you don't feel too bad on it so that you can maintain some level of drinking "normal" until you get to the point of stopping period. xo

Yeah, it's great that there are choices and it's not just Antabuse or nothing anymore. 

 

I know what you mean by the satisfaction part. I do think the Campral would be better for me. If the naltrexone does not help me I will be sure to have Campral on hand next round. Hopefully there will not be a next round. I'm an "all or nothing" type of person so I'm curious as to how I'll react to this. Praying this will be different. I'm adventurous and willing to try just about anything once.

Ade does it bother you to be drinking so much less and not getting that "high" effect?

You know, I never really noticed that much of a difference. There are some that talk about a "jolt" being gone, but I think that's mainly the liquor drinkers. I still get the "warm and fuzzy", relaxing feeling from beer, still get drunk if I drink too much, but I just started being satisfied with fewer and fewer beers. So I don't think that feeling that there is a big something "missing" from drinking tells you whether or not the Nal is going to work. The GABA and Glutamate receptors are still affected by alcohol, that's what gives the warm and fuzzy feeling, it's just that Naltrexone keeps the brain from remembering that alcohol = pleasure. That mechanism is what's different between people with AUD and without it. The ones without don't make such a strong connection as we do.

 

Very well said! Thank you putting my mind as straight as it gets. I'm going for it!

Xlnt! Keeping my fingers crossed that it does the trick for you!

Just for tonight I took 12.5 mg.  I am extremely sensitive to medications.  I could probably make a two page list of meds I cannot take.  So, I thought it best to start at the lowest dose possible.  11:00 I left work and took the pill.  12:00 I opened a beer.  It took me almost 2 hours to finish 2 beer and I really didn't feel like drinking the entire second beer. A bit dizzy, foggy & tired with slight anxiety of trying something new.  Tomorrow I will up it to 25 mg.  Night one with just 12.5 I can call a sucess.  Hoping these side effects don't last long.  Tomorrow I don't work so I'll be taking the pill earlier.  That will give me a better idea as to how things are working.  But, after forcing 2 beer down I'm ready for bed.  Just wanted to check because you've been so supportive!  Will chat soon  

That sounds like a really positive response to the Naltrexone, Kelly! The side effects will likely pass in a few days, perhaps as long as a couple of weeks. Keep having something to eat before you take the pill until the side effects do pass. Keep up with the water too.

Thanks for reporting back and sleep well tonight!

Seems I had some insomnia too. Some of it might have been due to the anxiety of it all. Plus, my step daughter arriving from another state tomorrow. She hasn't seen her dad in 3 years. Just not up for a house guest at this time. Plus, my husband has been sick so its just quite hectic now. I made sure to eat an hour before. And I usually do drink a lot of water but after I got home from work i was a bit lax on that so thanks for the reminder!

This is a JOKE for you and ADE.

GET A ROOM YOU TWO....lol...your filling up my notifications with Ade replied to Kelly, Kelly replied to ADE, ADE replied to Kelly...on and on.

NO...It is great to see people supporting each other and THAT is what the page is for I LOVE IT>....I just had to bust your chops!

 Love you both.

How about Kelly replied to Missy?  haha

Sorry about all the notifications.  (Not really)

Anyway, I am loving the support too.  Everyone has so many different ways of staying sober (THANK GOD) and I might need to try every one of them.  Hopefully, I won't need the Campral but if I do I'll be in touch with you & RGHB, lol!

So glad you have your sense of humor back.  You gave me my morning laugh since I'm working on about 4 hours of sleep.  But, it was great to have 2 beer last night and literally force the last half down.  I'm an alcoholic and I don't waste beer!

As long as the side effects lessen I think the Naltrexone will be of great benefit to me.  So glad I started at 12.5.  I think the 25 mg would have scared me as I got anxiety from the 12.5 but now I know what to expect and will bump it up.

I have a long day ahead of me as my step daughter is coming tomorrow.  Ugh/Yay!  Please keep me entertained with your wonderful sarcasm for the next month.  I'm going to need it!  

OMG..I had 4 hours of sleep yesterday...and I was USELESS.

I was a b*tch in my Outpatient.....I told one of the counselors she was makin me ANGRY in the group session...and she was so taken back by the comment...and the whole room froze afraid of what I was going to say...it was funny..but not at the time.

So..this man in the group is so upset they cut his anxiety meds...I mean he is FURIOUS...It was his turn to talk and he started being honest...and she cut him off to point out the things we came up with to reduce anxiety (instead of pills basically).  

I said STOP!...You are making me angry...I asked the guy if he minded if I interupted..he said "no, go ahead".  I said as an alcoholic I am going to speak for "Bob"....and I bet he doesn't give a sh*t about these relaxation techniques.  I said no one is probably even listening to  you as you seemed to diminish his relevent concern about his meds being cut down for anxiety when he is in the most extreme case of anxiety right at this moment.  Silence....

Then she goes to the board and draws a 3 legged chair stating we need 3 things in sobriety...which I understood...and one was MEDICATION....So I stopped her AGAIN..and said rudely...YEA...MEDICATION is one of them which is what I am telling you...give the man back his medication and possibly he will be more open to working on the other stuff.  

She just kept talking about the relaxation and how much they help and how much pills can't fix everything.  So, I blurted out...Than reduce his ANTIDEPRESSENT...and give him back his anxiety med...and I made a disgusted noise at her...LOL.

That was somewhat off topic...but I think what I am saying is....if Naltroxone makes you comfortable and able to move forward with your plan that is GREAT news.

I wish your stepdaughter wasn't coming...but she is....so....we will try and keep you grounded for the next month.

Good job on the 2 beers Kelly...and 1/2....lol.....I could never do that...its 10-12 or nothing when I drink.

OMG Missy!  You totally crack me up!  I would have paid big money to be at your outpatient session.  I could envision everything you said!  

Is your counselor an alcoholic or recovering alcoholic?  I find a lot of people in this profession are not.   They should be!  Even some that are can be so close minded to different ways of staying sober.  Hey, whatever works!  We know that!  Way to voice your opinion! 

I'm giving the Naltrexone a whirl here.  Going with the flow, taking it one day at a time and not beating myself for relapsing after 2 weeks.  Although I did a bit but got over it.  No sense dweilling on it.  Just gotta move on!

As for my stepdaughter.   I would love for her to stay in Missouri and wait another month before coming but I'm trying to think this could be a blessing in disguise.  It's the only way I can think right now.

And yes, I forced that last half can of beer down.  No wasting it!  And I thought I'd keep drinking and long for that craving but I didn't.  I was happy to stop.  My body sort of wanted that rush but my brain was saying enough now.  Like I said, today will be the test since I'll be taking it earlier.  Last night I worked 3-11.  So far today no side effects except a slight headache and tired from lack of sleep.   My husband is still in bed and I'm sure he was in bed long before I got off work last night. 

Going to be on and off all day as I have a lot to do. But, you have a great day!  Thanks for the laughs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think I would go to meetings if you were there! Like Kelly said be worth paying to see you in action lol!

Insomnia is a side effect that crops up for some, but as you say it may be due to other factors. If it hangs around you may be able to get by with an OTC sleep aid, hopefully it will pass soon.

Sorry to hear that your husband isn't feeling well! Seems he's been a real help through all of this.

I've had a good support system.  I come from a family of drinkers (some alcoholics) so I try not to lean on them much although they have my best interest at heart they don't understand it.  

But, my husband isn't feeling well and seeing a specialist on Monday. My one friend I turn to in faith just had a grandson that's not well.  My other best friend lost her brother (my close friend) to alcoholism in his 40's so I try not to lean on her too much.  

Lately, it's been you, Missy and other people on this forum that I turn to. I'm grateful for the support!  Oh, and outpatient when I make it. Wednesday was the day I decided to drive for beer instead of going to group therapy. My head kept saying turn around and do the right thing but my vehicle just drove for a 12 pack.  My jeep is even an addict, lol.

Yes, keeping that serious sarcasm that's well needed right now.

 

Yes, I'm praying all side effects (esp the insomnia) go away soon. That's one thing that seems to differ with me.  I had terrible anxiety when I drank and couldn't sleep but any night off drinking or when I quit then I sleep wonderful!  Now I hit a moment of insomnia.  

This too shall pass!  

Like I said to Missy.  I'll be on and off throughout the day but I have a lot to do and would like to get it done early so I can come home and relax.  

 

Odd. Did you get the anxiety the next day or was it while you were actually drinking? 

Glad to hear we've been of help, Kelly! Thanks for sharing your journey with us!

Not the next day or while I was drinking.  I'd actually drink and the anxiety would hit when I lay down.  Major insomnia!  As soon as I quit drinking or would take a day off (which was very rare) I'd sleep like a baby!  

I've done some reading on it. I don't know.  It just seems that AFTER I drink my anxiety rises.  While I'm drinking it's fine.  

But, I guess I should be thankful I fall in that category of those who sleep better without alcohol.  

Yes indeed! 

Kind of sounds like you're breaking down the alcohol really quickly and your GABA and Glutamate receptors get a bit upset about the reversal of their fortune.

You people from the UK have your way of talking that I have to ask "huh?" lol! I did well until after the word receptors. Maybe it's my foggy brain. Yes! Let's use that! Ha!

I'm from the US, so maybe my fingers have taken on an accent...

That is just too funny!!!!!!  My bad!