Feeling weighed down by Chronic bile reflux

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Hi all,

I've been having heart burn issues for the past like 7 years. For the past 1 year, this condition worsened and i developed symptoms similar to those suffered by patients having stomach ulcers i.e. burning sensation in the tummy and terrible hunger pangs when my stomach gets empty. I had an endoscopy done last year and the results indicated that i had an inflammation of the stomach lining ( gastritis) and chronic bile reflux condition, Hpylori tested negative. I always wake up with an irritated stomach..kind of burning sensation which lasts until i have my breakfast. I really try to avoid foods that trigger my condition but it seems like almost everything triggers my condition.

I was put on esomeprazole and itorcip for two months and was ok while on medication but once the medication was over, my condition recurred. My medication was changed to Ilaprazole and Itoprid which i just completed about a week ago and my condition still hasnt changed.

Wonder if there's any of you who has had this kind of a condition....

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    Joseph you have described better than I can how I feel.

    My endoscopy showed the same as yours and they could not tell me why I had inflammation in my stomach.

    I am going to see my doctor today for a repeat prescription and I am going to ask him to test my lower oster... Phincter as advised by one of our friends on here.

    When I have any further news I will let you know.

    Good luck for now

    Ted

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      Hi Ted,

      Wonder how the test for the lower esophageal sphincter (L.E.S) { guess this is what you mean } is done. My doc told me that if one has the reflux condition, this is an indication that the L.E.S  allows acid to flow backwards. I'll be glad to hear from you how the test goes maybe i also need to have this done. Its such a terrible thing to have persistent heartburn !!!

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      Hi again Joe as I said I went to see my doctor and he HP test was OK and with regard to my LOS he cannot see me having a problem clearly, he is a psychic, and as I am 64 something that can happen to anyone as they get older.

      Would have preferred if statistically as I got older I had more chance of winning Lottery.

      In addition to the Lansoprazole he as now given me Ranitidine to take as well. Hopefully it will give me a good nights sleep. So until suffering this for over 60 years I never regularly took any tablets and now I am taking two types of pill which is really annoying. It does seem to me that doctors are only too quick to dish out pills rather than try and get to the root of the problem.

      If you can Joe avoid the tablets and instead find out what is actually causing the problem. Good luck. Ted

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      Hi ted,

      I think I've used Ranitidine some time ago. I can't remember seing any change on my condition.

      Its not a very interesting thing to stay on medication. I've actually tried some food supplements which dont seem to work. I tried using some glutamine powder and some probiotics which i bought from some local store but i dont see any change.

      I pray that my case will be sorted out.....

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    Hello Joseph

    I think I developed bile reflux and in my case due to an emergency gallbladder surgery because I had pancreatitis. All of this two months after I had a baby. I also had gastritis and was prescribed different PPIS which helped but my heartburn never went away. I know the feeling. You should try to eat small meals and take a pro kinetic to help empty the stomach faster, so bile doesn't hang around for too long in stomach. Also have you heard of sucralfate, it can heal and protect the stomach and esophagus from the bile and digestive juices. I have to say that bile reflux its harder to treat and only surgery can cure it, but I am hoping That I get better in time and Can live life again. Best of luck to you finding relief of your symptoms.

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      Hi Leni,

      Thanks so much for your advice. Will sure try to eat small meals and to find out what pro kinietic and sucralfate is .....never heard of sucralfate..I dread the surgery option !!

      meanwhile am just on PPIS.......

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      You're welcome. I wish I could help more and help people  more that has this terrible condition. Also have you've ever had tests done to your pyloric valve to know if it's working properly? Because  chronic bile gastritis means that that sphincter is letting bile passing onto stomach. I heard about injecting Botox could help stopping bile going through. I read it in another health site and I was wondering  if this is possible. Maybe you can ask your doctor. I have a bit of reluctance to ask about things to doctors, especially because english is not my first language and I fear they misunderstand me and think I am hypochondriac. If you find out anything else that might help for bile, please keep in touch in this site.
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      Hi Leni

      The endoscopy tha I had done revealed that my pyloric valve (the sphincter) allows bile to flow backwards which should not be happening and thats why i have issues. Am gonna find out about the Botox injection as you say

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    Hi Joe. I was wondering if your symptoms worsen throughout the day? Also, are you losing a lot of weight? 
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      Hi,

      When am on PPI's I normally have a very good day...as in no heartburn. When am not taking PPI's i have heartburn almost after every meal. I've not lost any weight....am actually struglling to loose weight.....currently weighing 97 Kgs and my ideal weight should be around 75 Kgs

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      You are lucky. all the over the counter med's and prescription acid blockers have no effect on mine. It is excruciating. The late afternoon/evenings are the worst. I literally crying myself to sleep every night. I have no life anymore. I've never been so sick or in so much pain in my whole life. when this all started over seven months ago I wasn't a big person to begin with. I've now lost over 30 pounds and and am very week. Nothing I do help relieve the pain. Nothing I take helps, at all.
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      I am so sorry about your condition. I really pray that you get a solution somehow to your case. Whenever am not on PPI's i normally have a very rough time due to heartburn....it makes me use so much anti-acids. I hope that i will get a solution to miy case also and avoid an operation which i understand is the last resort. Wonder if your condition is aggravated by particular foods
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