First outbreak
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i was diagnosed with hsv1 gentiles i didnt even know i was having an out break and it only lasted 3 days for my forst outbreak didnt itch or hurt or anything. does this mean my herpes isnt that serious and im not that contagious?? i heard people's first out breaks are the worst. is it possible that since my outbreak was so low that my disease count is low? and un passible??
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jay70315 alex82497
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not unpassaable. hsv1 generally on your genitals doesnt have as many outbreaks due to the hsv1 virus preferring the nerves in your facial region more than your pubic region. even though it can still live in your pubic region. hsv1 and hsv2 still has viral shedding outside of an outbreak but since said before gHSV1 being in a non preferred location reduces the shedding amount.
an established gHSV1 infection (2 years+) can have asymptomatic shedding rates as low at 1.3% of days out of a year (4days).
with antivirals even lower.
everyone is different though and depending on how long you've had the virus plays into effect.
jay70315 alex82497
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and there is no such thing as a disease count being low. you have it or you dont. now iif you're asking if the viral replication in your body isnt as active as someone else? that can be true but once you have the virus you have it. as far as virus replication (disease count) that also can be lowered by the use of antivirals. antivirals specifically target the replication process of the virus to keep it in check.
lowers transmission rates but hsv i would say is never unpassable.
justawomen jay70315
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ghsv1 ofcourse isnt unpassable but doesnt occur as often as ghsv1 even the best dr terri warren that studies hsv has seen ghsv1 documented in the literature but has not personally seen a case in over 30 years
alex82497 jay70315
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i know its never un passable but is there just stproes or personal experience that u can have unprotected sex and not pass it?
justawomen alex82497
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actually , you dont need condoms ghsv1 is rarely passed . it has been documented in the literature but its not a common thing .. ghsv1 sheds most during the first 6 months . ghsv1 sheds infrequently from the genital tract and you have less OB's compared to ghsv1 . after 6 months youll be shedding 3-5% of days .. female to male ghsv2 transmission from male - female is 10% a year female to male 4% female-male with antivirals is 2% a year and that with GHSV2 so if u can get ghsv2 f-m transmission rate down to 2% a year with antivirals and considering ghsv1 sheds way less and u will have way fewer OB you extrapolate the percentage rate from that . with ghsv 1 being less ob less viral shedding and add in antivirals transmission will be 1% add in condoms it will not be 0% but under 1%
nunyabiz justawomen
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lol ummm no. please alex, do not listen to that advice. definitely use condoms im begging you. people write all kinds of articles like that, but tell that to the millions of people who have it genitally from sex. shedding rate varies from person to person, one person's experience can not be applied to everyone's. this person just had their first outbreak, so he or she is extremely contagious right now. alwaysss use condoms. for 6 months use them.
justawomen nunyabiz
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since im soooo wrong . let me ask you this since you have all the answers . if ghsv1 is so easily transmitted why hasnt it been studied as well as ghsv2 ? if ghsv2 is so easily transmitted why isnt there any documented transmission rates ? atleast 95% of people diagnosed with genital herpes of any kind is from genital to genital hsv2 transmission or oral sex . so since your SOOOO well educated may you answer those questions for me ?
justawomen
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*ghsv1
nunyabiz justawomen
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girl what? idk wtf youre even talking about but stuff like this is why the virus is spreading "oh im sure its not THAT passable. it wont hurt" who said there has to be documented rates?? have you read every document and study on ghsv1??? i didnt think so sir isaac newton. it doesnt matter what you read or however "slim" the chances may be. its very possible to give genital herpes type 1 through sex, if it weren't would people on here tell their stories of getting it from SEX?? oh.. its better to be safe than sorry and give someone genital herpes because of misinformation. if you have AN STD, wrap up. duh. but if your partner wants to take the chance then cool, just be sure to talk to them about it so they know what theyre risking, alex
alex82497
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i got it genital to genital i know i can always pass it but is there ways or hestd from personal experiences of having unprotected sex and not passing it and tips?
justawomen alex82497
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how were u diagnosed ? how do u know that was your first outbreak ? ive had ghsv1 for 6+ years and have no passed it ive been with my current partner 3 years and it hasnt been transmitted
justawomen alex82497
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by swab , blood test or both?
alex82497 justawomen
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by swab it was just one lil spot and idk if it was my first cause ive never noticed or looked down there that good ive always thought i was clean till i had unprotected sex with a girl and she told me after that she had hsv 1 but swore she hasnt had an outbreak in a year and was healthy so i kept looking and looking till i saw a lil spot and i got it swabbed and they say it was hsv1 but i wanna have a blood test to be for sure i have it cause idk it was so quick that it doesnt feel like herpes. ive heard stories of false positives and i know a swab is really accurate but i wanna have a blood test too
justawomen alex82497
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does she have hsv1 genitally ? did u recieve oral sex ? & yes a primary OB doesnt heal in 3 days . it sounds more like a reccurence . when you got a swab it just told u the virus was present on the surface you shouldve had your blood drawn at the same time to see if u had antibodies . if u had antibodies then that means it wasnt a mew infection , if u didnt have antibodies then it was a new infection . u dont have a false postive swab tests are accurate so u do have ghsv1.
alex82497 justawomen
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no i didnt recieve oral it was sex and she has it genitals too so i think i got it from her but im pretty sure she was having an outbreak cause days later she said she had ringworm and didnt wanna see me or have sex.
justawomen alex82497
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i see . u may want to obtain a blood test like tomorrow to see if u have antibodies to know if this was a new infection or recurrence and it really sounds like a reccurence . you could already be developing antibodies as we speak so u may never know
alex82497 justawomen
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idc who gave it to me i already have it. i just wanna know tips of not being so contagious
alex82497 justawomen
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can i receive oral?
justawomen alex82497
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yes u can recieve oral and you can have sex . even if u recieved genital hsv1 through intercouse it still doesnt happen often
nunyabiz justawomen
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lol but it happened just like i said it could. anyway, be sure to wrap up alex! you can have sex, just dont believe the notion that you cant pass it through sex or that its close to impossible because CLEARLY that's false. do NOT have sex during an outbreak whether you have a condom or not, and wrap up every single you do have sex for the first 6 months because you're newly infected and extremely contagious. after that 6 month period, you can talk to your future partner about having unprotected sex during periods without outbreaks. hope that helped 😃
justawomen nunyabiz
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he isnt even sure he got it from her ! he thinks he did and he didnt have a blood test at time of swab to see if he had antibodies to know if it was a reccurence or primary , your very annoying . a primary will not go away in 3 days no matter what u say and he clearly wasnt on anti virals to speed up duration of outbreak . im not saying what you are saying is wrong but it definitly isnt all accurate
justawomen
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and i didnt say it couldnt happen , its still infectious but it doesnt happen OFTEN . so if you read what i had said and stop with the ignorance you wouldve saw that .
nunyabiz justawomen
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im not annoying, youre just wrong and you mad about it LMAOOO. also not ignorant. you initially said "you dont need condoms" a very reckless and IGNORANT thing to say. sorry ive upset you shayla 😦
alex82497 nunyabiz
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yea shayla you sound like the girl that gave it to me she was so certain she couldnt pass it she was so believable i trusted her and i ended up getting it. i was so mad at myself and at her she acted like it wasnt a big deal which it is i honestly think my love life is over. for 1 dumb mistake but she knew she had it but didnt tell me till the 2nd time we had sex and the first time was unprotected. i think i got it then. im hurt and feel disgusting. but i swear i wont pass it to anyone else without giving them a chance to decide i didnt get a chance till it was too late i honestly wish i was a gf to beat her ass but shell get whats coming to her. im not worried but yea i was just wamting to know good tips and ways not to pass it if i didnt wanna use a condom and i really like getting oral which i wanna know if i still can.. it honestly sucks. and that kimm girl doesnt know anything when i was having an putbreak she said it was a follicle infection and to not to worry that i could have sex but i knew better and got tested before i had any sex but she swore she knew what it was and when i told her she just laughed about it like nothing and she still is saying i can get oral and have sex as long as im not showing which is so stupid cause your contagious all the time theres really dumb miss informed people out there passing the virus knowing they have it but swearing they cant pass it. i will never be so dumb to infect someone qnd ruin there life and i think if u are having sex to be on those pills which i am when i finally get the nerve to have sex again
alex82497 nunyabiz
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thank you nunya are you in a relationship and having sex? do you have it genital?? and if so do u have any tips of not passing it? and what to do if i want to have sex without a condom? especially head? xause that girl kim is acting like she knows everything but i definitely wont take her word for it. and if u have it orally have you given someone head? and they not get it? sorry if im being personal i just love sex
nunyabiz alex82497
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SOMEONE FINALLY SAID IT lolll. kim's telling everyone "oh its just this, oh its just that, its not herpes" and is literally always wrong. tons of misinformed people on here and it kinda bothers me because the virus goes around just like that. i myself dont have genital herpes so you may think i cant speak, but i have done LOADS and LOADS of research because when I tested positive for type 1, i assumed it was genital and read up on how to not give it to my boyfriend, medications, all sorts of things and made sure i was educated enough. while i have type 1 orally, they are the exact virus and behave the same way, only in different regions, so i surely can help somewhat. so for one, if someone gives you oral, you wont give them the virus. of course, dont perform sexual acts during an outbreak but otherwise no. i say not to have sex during an outbreak even with a condom because, sometimes condoms roll up and leave part of the penis exposed, which can expose sores or parts of skin where the virus is extremely active.
nunyabiz alex82497
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and as ive mentioned, you wont have to have protected sex the rest of your life. its good that your main focus is not giving it to anyone else. i have it orally and i worried that id give it to someone because i enjoy oral sex i really do. but i can assure you, your sex life can be less of a worry over time. im not sure when you contracted it, but if you know for sure a good estimation on when you got it, you'll have to be protected 6 months after that. say you got ghsv1 from your ex 2 months ago, you can have unprotected sex in 4 months from now. aymptomatic shedding happens very often when youve just gotten the virus and the virus is passable during this stage, but you dont know when its happening bc there are no symptoms so its important to stay protected at all times. but after 6 months, it'll start to happen almost rarely. this cannot be said for type 2 , it happens a lot more with that virus, but you can be relieved that type 1 is a lot more mild as shayla said. once 6 months have passed, if you find yourself in a relationship, you can inform your partner that you are safe to have unprotected sex (when youre not having an outbreak!). and please dont ignore the first sign of an outbreak. one you feel any itching or tingling or burning, youre in prodrome. an outbreak is coming and in a couple days sore will come. the minute you feel those signs DO NOT have sex. the virus is fighting its way to the surface and it is passble. please message me for further questions. i'd be happy to help and i hope this was helpful
kim12266 alex82497
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then visit a doctor if u wont take peoples advice for one i work for the nhs and am a qualified sexual health nurse and two like i said herpes is very hard to diagnose from looking at a photo online most doctors have to test for it because they have to be sure wat it is an thirdly u never told me u had sex with someone with herpes u told me u washed our testicles with hand wash which looked like u had foliculitis i also told u when u messaged me again and said u had had unprotected sex with a girl with herpes to go straight to a doctor for testing u told me u had no money to visit a doctor i never said u cant pass herpes on at all u are lying i told u u can still pass it on even without sores u messaged me in the middle of the night im not your personal doctor i have given everyone a professional opinion on this is a forum for anyone to comment im not going go be slated for that
kim12266 nunyabiz
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who have i misinformed actually iv got most right
nunyabiz kim12266
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half of the people youve told it wasnt herpes have come on the site to say it was, indeed, herpes from what ive seen.
kim12266 nunyabiz
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u want to check back threw the posts u have commented on cos i have and theres a fair few that u have told its herpes and turns out its not infact theres one only a few days back turns out she had a fungal infection he told me his symptoms i never misinformed him at all if he had told me from the start he had had sex with someone with herpes then i would have told him to go straight to a doctor for a test which is wat i did tell him eventually after he told me also you say u researched up on herpes ...no doubt u got your so called research off google, google is no good as theres alot of misinformation on there the above person had spots on his testicles so telling him to wear a condom all the time is misinforming him as a condom dosnt cove his testicles were his so called outbreak was the virus can still shed even tho there are no spots unless he ca. get his testicles wrapped in a condom aswel sex will never be safe there will always be a risk he can pass it on with or without a condom
kim12266 justawomen
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this is the exact answer i gave him its rarer to pass it on when no sores are present there is still a chance but that chance is lower than wat it would be if there was blisters as the virus does shed some people need to get off google and not take everything on there as gospel as theres alot of fiction aswel as facts
kim12266
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i have just looked back threw my posts theres only a handful of herpes posts in the last two weeks iv commented on an iv told them to get tested to be sure so i dont understand were u have gotten your informartion from as regards to me getting it wrong iv even got back as far as the last month and theres actually not many posts and noones actually responded to say if was herpes or not i dont comment on herpes posts as much as im in alot of other forums