Further evidence after pip MR

I don't think you understood what I meant Denise .

I have been hospitalised with a worsening condition that I already have had for a long time but he assessor claims that I did not even have the original condition .

The condition I have now could not have happened if I had not had the original condition in the first place .

The fact that I have been hospitalised proves that I had the original condition in the first place and that the assessor has lied as she said I never ever  had the original condition in the first place despite evidence I provided .

As I have said if I did not have the original condition as the assessor claims there is no way I could be in hospital now with the condition worsened it could not worsen if I never had it in the first place .

Now I have even more documented evidence as I have Hospital admission letters from A + E  , surgical triage , and consultant specialist reports . I'm still in hospital where I have had 4 X rays.  A ct scan,  27 blood tests , and a week of intravenous injections  .

I hope this is now clearer 

I understood you perfectly Paul. You can't use the evidence for a worsening condition. The fact that you've got hospital admission letters , the x-rays, scans and blood tests stil can't be used. If that Consultant report clearlying states when you had this condition and how it affects you daily (because that's what PIP is all about) then you can use that.

The assessor said I did not have the original condition because she knows that she would have had to award me points as the condition definitely affects my daily living condition . 

So she denied I had the condition and ignored my doctors reports.

If she had included in her report that I had the condition it's obvious that it would affect my daily living and score me points .

It's like if you score points for not being able to read signs .

The patient would obviously not  be able to see signs because they are blind but the assessor says that they are not blind so they don't have to award points .

So if the patient went to tribunal it would be obvious they were blind as they could not be able to see and have written evidence .

Can you see what I'm saying 

my worsening condition which I could have not have if I did not already have the original condition is just more evidence which proves the assessor has lied 

it's all relevant .

If you think it's all relevant then why ask Paul? Not knowing what your condition is makes it extremely difficult to advice you or to even understand some of what you state. All i can tell you is you can NOT use evidence for a worsening condition. I'm sorry Paul but i can't help you any further. I have a lot going on in my own life right now yet i continue to advice others here. I can't 2nd guess you, i'm sorry. I wish you good luck with your PIP claim and wish you good health.

Yes at the  assessment I gave the assessor the consultant and gp letters stating the condition i had but on the report she said I did not even have the condition .

With the condition I have/had  its absolutely obvious that it would affect my daily living abilities that's why the assessor said I never had the condition as it would be obvious I would have been awarded points .

It's like for example if you have no eyes it would be impossible to see  or if you had no legs it would be impossible to walk 

My original question was never specifically directed at you so why even  reply and get involved in the topic . You got involved by replying to my question which constituted a reply to you  which you then say you have too much going on in your life to respond to my messages so why even respond in the first place as like I said it was a general question to the forum and not specifically to you .

This is a rhetorical question which means it does not warrant a reply from you 

So good luck to you 

Actually Paul incase you hadn't realised i'm the most active person on the forum. I'm the only one that's tried helping you throughout ALL of your ESA and PIP. I even asked you multiple times about the reasons you got into the support group BUT you never ever answered my question. I also asked you to post back when you got your ESA assessment report BUT you didn't post back about that either.

I have bent over backwards to try to help you over the past few months. Of course you can send in more evidence but like i said multiple times they won't take any evidence into consideration for a worsening of condtion. All the tests you have done since being in hospital make no difference to this currect PIP claim.

The fact that I have been admitted to hospital proves beyond doubt that I had the condition I'm the first place .

This is very important and key because it proves the assessor has lied on the report .

If she had not lied on the report she would have had to awarded me points as the condition I have which she said I didn't have would beyond any doubt affect my daily living condition .

The fact that the assessor has lied on the report has prevented me being awarded points . This further evidence I will now have proves I had the condition in the first place so it's all relevant .

This new evidence will also be added to all the previous evidence that my legal team have for when the begin proceedings to sue the assessor and atos 

if you spoke to the assessor the same way you spoke to denise then i can understand them not liking you!!

 

Thanks 

I have only just recently had my pip decision and only last week had my mandatory reconsideration letter so it will be months before any tribunal .

 If everything ends up well in the hospital and I'm allowed home I will be sending the evidence in beforehand and not take it with me to tribunal 

That's good and then you will obviously know for sure if you can do it. Can I ask Paul what your disability is, you do seem as though you don't want to say, there's nothing I can think of that would be too bad to say

Yes its all in my doctors and consultants reports which I provided the assessor with . She did not include these reports and to my disbelief said that I did not even have the condition .

I have had the condition for years before I even decided to claim for pip .

I was in total disbelief that the assessor had blatantly lied even though I had all supporting evidence . She just wrote down that the condition did not exist although I had been being treated for it for many years . I have seen three different specialists including one if the top professors in the country . 

What I find even more unbelievable even though I sent in all evidence to DWP is that they sided with a nurse rather than a G.P and three consultants . But It's a known fact that the decision makers go off what's on the assessment report .

Now this is the best bit two weeks after the pip report I had an esa assessment which was carried out by a GP who confirmed the condition I had on her report and I was put straight into the support group .

So a GP confirms that I had a condition and a nurse says I had no condition .

Totally unbelievable 

Hi Paul I'm just wondering if you didn't submit the documentation when you first applied for PIP but kept it and passed it to the assessor on the day of your assessment, is that correct.

The condition I have directly affects my daily living and mobility .

The condition would affect many parts of my daily living condition and how I am able to love around . Because of my condition it would score me many points on lots of different a descriptors on the pip points scoring system .

THIS IS THE REASON  why the assessor denied that I have the condition because she would have to score me points . She has blatantly lies to prevent me getting points and the pip award .

No one is denying you have a disability, but you do seem to repeat yourself and obviously don't feel your disability is a viable one or you wouldn't keep skirting round it, also your evidence wouldn't be except able on the day I don't think, you should have sent it in with your application as that gives them time to verify it if they feel the need, on the day they have not got anyway of making sure that it comes from a reputable source.

Obviously your disability embarrasses you that'd be the only reason why you don't/want disclose it.

You do not need to repeat the fact that your assessor denied the fact you had said disability, she just couldn't use information given on the day

Of course she can use information on the day ,  I showed her all my evidence on the day all doctors letters etc. She told me that's very helpful I will add that to my report . 

I did send all the information  with my application and like I said handed it in to her at the day of assessment .

I got a copy of the assessment report and she wrote that I did not have the condition that I claimed that I had.

Its strange how you keep going on about the ailment you have but don't even remotely mention it!!! Then also why would anyone send in all the information only to give it to the assessor as well?? Surely one lot would be adequate, but if you read your posts it sounds like you only passed it over on the day, I think you are a wind up merchant.

I got admitted to hospital through A+ E a week ago I'm still  in hospital now on intravenous anti biotics doctors trying to prevent surgery that's life threatening 

Last thing I would be doing is winding anybody up