Groin Pain - possibly Herpes? Don't know and really nervous

He said it wasn't worth it so early, but I think I might go now and just get a test to see if anything pops up.

When we were hooking up, she said she didn't want to have sex (no reason) and I agreed (I'm a worrier about all that stuff) so we just dry humped in our underwear.

What exactly are fissures anyway?  The main symptoms I'm having right now is itchy scrotum all around it, but only when I'm sitting down for 10-15 minutes.  I sleep fine in the night, etc.  No bumps or anything.

I'm so nervous now that I caught something.

 

Well, my test came back negative a week after infection.. Blood test that is, swab test came back positive, but I had sores . 3 months later it came back positive.. It does take time to build antibodies. At least 4-6 weeks at the earliest, but that is not even certain, hence the 3 mo the rule.

Well there could have been a reason why she didn't want to go all the way at that point. Have you called her and asked?

Fissures look like little tears in the skin.. Like a tiny cut. Often tines they are in the creases of your anus and it takes so acrobatics w a mirror and flashlight to really see.

I wouldn't worry about it.. Nothing you can do about it. If you have it, it is not worth the emotional stress that it causes and no amount if worrying will make it go away. It also sounds like if you do have it, you'll be soneone who is virtually asymptomatic or close to it as time goes on. It is not a death sentence... It is the social stigma that people put on it, that makes it so terrible. So just relax and take a deep breath, you may be getting worked up for nothing.

Yes, I was thinking for peace of mind I'd go to get a blood test, but I guess that doesn't really matter if it hasn't been three months.

The saddest thing is that as soon as she said she didn't want to have sex, I was glad, because I didn't want to either.  As you can tell, I'm a worrier and I thought what we were doing would be safe.  I don't have her number, but I'm trying to get it now.

I'm just freaking out and sad.  And these definitely sound like Herpes symptoms, right?

If you ask for a test that tests for DNA vs antibodies, you may be able to find out faster, but depends on where you live and your insurance. The states will allow it, but Europe seems to be strict and not allow that.

Unfortunately the education system is broken on sexual health and fail to tell that herpes and HPV are skin to skin contact. Anyone can shed the virus w no sores in locations not protected by even a condom, so even having protected sex doesn't guarantee you protection. It takes just skin on skin contact and that is it.

Do they sound like it? Yes, unfortunately they do, because you at describing nerve sensations such as tingling and the word herpes was derived from the green word to mean to creep.. Hence sensations from peripheral sensory nerves infected.

Trust me, I am the sane way as you and was educated on how you could get it before I got it and it still happened to me, because he chose to lie to me and not disclose.

Lets not put the cart before the horse and wait and see. You may not have it. Hope for Tue best, but prepare die the worst. You will survive this, even if you do have it. You will come to a place of acceptance at some point.. But again. Let's not get ahead of ourselves here. Make sure you broach this subject w her delicately and start off w explaining you are not angry and you are not blaming her or am mad at her. You just want to know so you can get tested, because of symptoms you've had since their encounter. If you go in intense and attacking, she may deny it. My giver denied it after contacting him and told me to never contact him again.

I'm trying to get her number now, but I won't attack her.  I'll just ask her nicely.

Can I ask how long usually these symptoms would last for a first outbreak?  Like I said it's not chronic and it's been 30 days now.  It's actually only been today that it's been a little more uncomfortable than usual.  I'm also wondering if stress is just getting to me and I'm projecting all of this.

I'm just rambling now.  I'm so nervous and I don't know what to do for the next two months now...

I apologize this is slightly off topic but I hope acceptable.  feelbroken, you mentioned the social stigma associated with herpes.  I do not have it, I just want to share the experience I had with a very very close friend.  One of my very closest most intimate relationships (not romantic) is with a woman the same age as me (32).  She would tell me absolutely anything.  We were incredibly open with each other.  She started having issues about telling her then boyfriend about something she would not share with me.  Over the next few weeks she was noticeably more and more depressed and it was obvious her relationship was having some serious tension.  It took a while but she finally opened up to me.  Her opening statement was "I am dirty", “I'm not clean" she got very emotional I could tell it hurt a lot.  I asked what she meant and she finally told me she has herpes.  We are close we talk about things I don’t talk to anyone else about.  Despite all of that closeness she was still terrified to tell me because she was afraid of judgement and rejection.  My reaction was "oh my god is that it?" kinda insensitive sounding but I meant that it didn’t seem like the end of the world or that it suddenly took away her value.  I grew to understand just how much pain she carried with that.  No matter what I said or even how I truly felt it could not reach her.  Somewhere someone told her (societal ideas, or personal) that she was worthless because she was "dirty".  That pain runs so deep.  I truly wish there was a way to change these horrible images society gives to some diseases.  So feelbroken, thank you so much for talking about this and being so open. 

Sincerely RJ

Feelbroken-

I talked to her.

She said she's clean.  She got checked a month ago and nothing showed up including herpes.  Her mom is a doctor so she knows all the facts.

So she said she got a herpes test specifically? Are you willing to ask her for physical test results? Herpes has to to specifically be requested and many, even in the health profession, depending on their area are not aware I'd this.

Was there any oral sex?

Not specifically.  But I believe her.  She says she "guarantees" that if I did receive HSV2, it's not from her.

There was no oral sex whatsoever.  Literally, we rubbed against each other with underwear on both of us (she had a thong, I had boxer briefs on) and that was it.

That is awesome.  If your situation comes out less desirable, please dont let it make you feel like your less than anyone else.  I certainly wouldnt feel that way about you (or anyone in your situation).  I am familiar with that feeling of "less than" or broken, or wrong.  Nobody needs that weight.  Also there seems to be a number of effective treatments now.  I hope the absolute best for you man!

I'm hoping it's nothing, but I appreciate that very much!

RJATWORK, thank you for posting.. That was so very touching and you made me very emotional and w tears reading that. Just wrap your arms around her and tell her how much you love her and how this changes nothing about her value. Remindther of this frequently. She needs to hear it, even if she's not talking about it. One of my good friends had the sane reaction.. I had been stalling for months not telling her and then when I did, she laughed at me and said: that's it!?? That's all that you had yo tell me!? I thought you were gonna tell me something serious, like that you had a sex change or something! Hahaha... She thought it was the dumbest thing ever to to worry about and she had other friends who had it and are married now...

It is terrible and not fair. Most people have oral herpes, but because you can't run from that and most have it and can't hide it, you get to change the name to a cold sore or fever blister and not what it really is?! Yet those same people making fun of others are no different! Do you ask someone before you kiss then if they've ever had a cold sore? No. Do you ask then that before they give you oral sex? No.. So why is genita herpes labled w such a stigma and oral isn't, especially when 30-50% of new genital herpes cades in the states is from oral sex and 70% in the UK?! talk about a double standard and hypocrite eh?

Tell your friend your Google H opportunity... I have found that it is a completely dedicated support forum to herpes. It has the most recent medical statistics, disclosure pamphlets and a very positive environment. It will really help her.

Well, hopefully she's not done something w others in between testing or didn't go get tested right after her last relations or she can come back w a false negative.

At this point, I just don't know what else it could be. It sounds just like herpes. When was the last sexual relation prior to her?

Guess we gotta wait and sew.. I'll be praying for ya bud.

The last sexual relation I had was back in May 2014.  After that, never had contact with anyone.

And you didn't start experiencing this until after sexual contact w her right?

I don't know sweetheart... It's tough to say. Based on the info she provided, you should be good, but at times people haven't gotten tested since their last true sexual encounter, antibodies may not have developed yet when they were tested, etc.. There's many caveats to go w that.

My giver told me the exact same thing you were told and denied, denied, denied. In fact, when we had the talk before we had sex, he mentioned how it was illegal to knowingly have herpes and not tell them. Hind sight being 20/20, that should have been a flag. Most people don't know that for one and the likelyhood a 25yr old guy just happened to know that off the cuff and be herpes negative, doesn't seem very likely. When I confronted him, he said he was clean and that if he has something, then we know who gave it to him and that I'll be hearing from his lawyer. Mind you, I had been abstinent for over 2yrs, had done several tests before that, which I bought up again. I stated that I had an appt in a couple days and will no for sure then, but I'm positive this is what it is and I'd let him know. He told me to never contact him again and he was going to get tested and if he had anything, then I know who I'll be hearing from. Of course I never heard from anyone, cause he was lying and although NY culture came back positive, my blood test came back negative, because it was a new infections and I had no built antibodies in a week yet after infection.

Can't really take people's words these days. Ask of yiu can have a quick reaction test done. That should allow you to find out w out waiting for antibodies. Better to know, than not to know.

Hey-

I got a blood test.  One was for IgG and the other was a screen for any Herpes.

Everything came back negative.  Thank you so much for all your advice and input!

Well IgG is the antibody presence of an infection that has been there for some time. A month isn't long enough since possible infection to test for that. He should have put you in for IgM as well, ad that is indicative of a new infection or in some people it will pop up during recurrent episodes, but be present w IgG if it was an older infection. I recommend going back in another two months, as 3 months is recommended after possible infection for antibodies to develop.

Arw you experiencing any symptoms any more? I wouldn't stress too muah and you're likely good, but there is a reason for the 3 month standard, so please follow up in two month's. Good luck and I wish you the best!!

Hey there-

I know IgM is for newly acquired infections, but I also know that if it comes positive that doesn't necessarily mean HSV and it could be any other infection or sickness I'm fighting off. If I do have something, this at least narrows it down to one person.

As for symptoms, I bought some jock itch cream for down there but it still is uncomfortable from time to time around the scrotum/underneath penis.

I was doing a lot of bending my body (bending my whole back to use a mirror to see if any lesions were present near rectum/spreading cheeks apart hard) so recently I have some new symptoms. Chief among them:

- left elbow pain sometimes (feels like I banged it on something)

- left wrist pain sometimes (when I bend it)

- had lower back pain/butt pain (but this could be due to me stretching my body the way i was)

- skin on thighs sometimes feels like sunburn after you've taken a shower

- area above knees feels like tight muscles

- once in awhile, slight pinch or shock in thighs

- still some headaches

Besides that, nothing else really. I appreciate your wishes!

Also please keep in mind. I have anxiety to the MAX with this stuff and I wonder how much of it does a number on my body and could be causing some of these symptoms.

No, that's not true... It is type specific for herpes simplex 1 and 2.

Eek.... Some of your symptoms really do sound like paresthesia from herpes. Some people do get headaches.

The issue w testing IgM for herpes and is why I asked if you have oral herpes, ia because coming up positive do 1, can sometimes cross reacted w the type 2 test and give a false positive... That is why sometimes doctors will steer away from IgM. Did you tell the doc about all your symptoms? A GP is no good in the area of sexual health.. For a man, it is best to see a urologist or infectious disease doctor. Just give yourself some time and go back to be teated. In the mean time, stop worrying your self.

BTW.. You can use a hand mirror, mini flashlight, pull knees to chest, spread and look. This will prevent any awkward straining and give you a good look.

Yes, that was already clear to me reading, but I didn't want to call it out and make you feel like a spaz. We'll really only know until you get tested in another month or two... Stop worrying.

Thanks - will do!

Does this sound like a normal timetable for anything?  Symptoms wise?

There is no telling at this point if this is because you are freaking yourself out or they are legit.

I can't speak on other STDs a whole lot, like I can w herpes, but when it comes to heroes, there is no one size fits all. Everybody's reaction to it, is as unique as their DNA. Your immune system is as unique as your thumbprint, so no one person will display the same.e symptoms to a T. There is a girl who just posted on here the other day. She's had heroes for 6yrs and never had a full blown primary outbreak. She had some symptoms I think and was tested and came up positive and/or very mild symptoms. Now 6yrs later, she is having a full blown outbreak... Her first to be this bad. It could be a number of things that triggered it..

Stop worrying and come back in another month and then another month later

Hey-

Just checking back in.  So I was tested at 4 weeks (HSV1 and 2 negative) and then tested at 7 weeks (both negative again).

This is the time table at this point.

3/21 - Exposure - dry humping with underwear on.  She gave me hand job.  I just felt her down there.

4/10 - discomfort in the scrotum.  Warmth in the groin area.  Lower back pain and nerve sensations.

4/17 - same as before.  Raw, chafed feeling in anus.  I start to poke and prod down there, pulling my cheeks apart quite a bit.  Nerve sensations continue.

4/28-5/8 - develop a big anal fissure below scrotum.  It's more like a crater though and when I went to the doctor, I told him all my symptoms and he said, "None of this looks like Herpes."  This is when I get tested again and came back negative.

After this time on, no pain or nothing.  Fissure gets better, don't even notice it.

5/25 - lower back/butt pain on and off again.  Sorta warm and itchy right above buttocks.  Some headaches here and there.

6/1 - lower back/butt pain here nor there.  Sunburn feeling on thighs comes back.

This is where I'm at as of now.  I'm still terrified, but I've spoken to two doctors now and both say there's no way I could have gotten HSV due to what we did, but obviously someone else got it this way.

I've also had sciatica for years.  I'm 25.  Thanks.

 

Also, just a FYI.  I've been on WebMd and MedHelp as well and each sites have said my transmission risk was zero and that these symptoms are not Herpes related nor do they fit a proper timetable.

Did you ever get tested again?

I am a long time infected patient at 67 yrs of age. Medical profession has no data on long term infection. I do. I have your symptoms and more. Not everyone is like me.