guese who wrote this

i dont no what you mean by this comment.

i do not understand what you are trying to say???????

it was from a paper written by a retired doctor 

who advised people to avoid doctors and hospitals as much as they can if they  want to live to a ripe old age . i was not trying to say anything just thought it that it was a good topic .

iv alwaays believed in avoiding doctors as much as possiable and here was a retired doctor actuly agreeing with my veiws .

well the hospital is sometimes a waste of time and some hospitals are a great help if you have got a problem

I agree Daniel, hospitals have saved my life more than once through operations, but I do avoid prescription drugs and doctors as much as I can. I prefer to treat myself with healthy living, herbs and diet.

hospitals are great at putting people back together after accidents .

they are excellant at repair .

but not so much with care 

 

I agree with you, Georgia.

I too have had several experiences that hosptials saved my life ie:  bi-lateral pulmonary  embolisms, meningitis and I could name a few more.  That article seemingly was written by a doctor that was scorned in his practice and not really looking out for the people.

Oh well, to each their opinion, right?

I think, with a combination of both remedies, one can live a whole life.

Just sayin'

Frustrated

I too would have died long ago were it not for the skill of asurgery team and strong antibiotics. I would have lost my wife of two occasions had not the medical teams shown their skill.

I have also suffered three medical disasters.

I have had excellent GPs and very bad ones.

I have had kind and sympathetic nurses and unkind, indifferent and cruel ones.

In human affairs one has to take the rough with the smooth. Suing the NHS just makes the lawyers rich and leaves less funds for helping sick people. I don't know how that works in USA.

your so right george but were there is profit to be made ,

there are no princables .

Yes they break the Hyppocratic oath continuously. He told his students 'Do no harm and use herbs'. They only use extracts of herbs and pack their drugs full of toxic, harmful ingredients.

The problem with using a herb extract is that whole herbs, leaves, roots etc contain the antidote to anything toxic in them so using only extracts is ludicrous!

O come, come dear Tiswas. No principles? Surely not. There is the great god and principle "the Bottom Line".

You will have to take a test.

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Tick each statement that is correct. You are allowd 30 seconds for this examination, starting now.

1]  the love of money is the root of all evil

2] the love of money corrodes good medicine

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Time up. Put down your pen. If you made two ticks go to the top of the class. Well done.

well of course theres two ticks .

sorry george but the test relates to staements not princables 

where money is involved esp massive profits who cares if a few hundred or thousand people die along the way . these big cooperations do not have princables .MONEY  is there GOD

.i may not believe in the bible 

as we all no it was put together from scripures found i believe in iseral i migth be wrong there but i think it was iseral

,the scriptures all written by differant people at differant times,one of the scriptures mentions a dragon this was left out of the bible . but the bible as a book was never so. only put together by man .the way he thought it should be .

allthough the bible brings great comfort to some and thats fine what brings comfort in times of stress or in the darkest of the night to someone can only be good

,but as a book of referance of facts no i dont think so .

i am comforted by crystals ,and light and the faith that my gift of sensistivity and vast insight will keep me safe

. iv avoided and helped others keep safe with just what i feel . most people cant understand me sometimes even i dont understand me , i just know that someone keeps me safe

.iv been so near to danger so many times and some how been kept safe . iv seen danger for others and have forwarned them ,some have listened some wished they had .

i sense when people will split up , i sense they future , like my sister inlaw. in the past i would have been burnt for being a witch . maybe i was who nows . witches never exsisted they were just like me gifted either in healing, or insight ,  

i am a big believer in homeopathic remedies treating the body gently aiding it to recover . they seem to work for me .

herbal medincine i find to strong for me at the moment . but do believe whole heartidly that it works .

why wouldnt it .

the animals no what to eat when there ill

they dont go running of to boots . 

Yes Tiswas, the great blessing of this forum is we accept we each have our way of understanding ourselves, our relations, our friends, our neighbours and the world we inhabit. How each see that is fine. We in our turn say how we see it. None of it is said to contradict another. 

We are all in trouble and share our thoughts and experiences. In receiving comfort and acceptance ourselves we try to impart comfort and acceptance on our fellows in the forum. Please believe me dear Tiswas, nothing I write is intended to contradict your world view. It is mearly my world view. 

of course george ,we must all find our way ..stumble and full ,get up and brush ourselves of and stumble some more .that is life a field of rocks and holes that we work our way thru , and occasionly we see a beautiful tree or a patch of wonderful flowers that are our joy and we will continue on uplifted for that joy 

 Hi Tiswas, good to see that smiley at the end. There are a lot of rocks arn't there? They hurt when you knock against then. The joy in beautiful things that our planet affords are a wonder and a joy. They quite uplift our weary soul.  yes?  yes .

Yay two ticks, do we get gold stars? 

I relate to so much of what you said there tiswas! 

Lol on animals running off to boots! You're funny. 

yep so iv been told hun , its like how we feed our animal all with dried food or little pouches of god knows what , you wouldnt see a dog in the wild or a cat sittng down with a knife and fork eating cooked food ,

they would eat it raw . like they were meant to its only us that cant bare the thought of feeding our pets raw bits of animals . me included . that make it not so.

my brother started to feed his dogs raw and they were much better ,the only thing was one of his dogs has cancer and it made him ill so he gets them raw meat and certain vegatables with brown rice and cooks it cools it and feeds them all the same

,they love it and are thriving even the dog with cancer is doing much better than the vet thought he would . 

you dont have to ask anyone to chat 

Daniel, yes that is kind. I had very recently posted the results of my web searches. I should be very grateful to have your comments. I do not think I have a diagnosis from any of the medics, just a presumption. Lazy and dangerous behaviour especially if it is a habit.

Hi Tiswas ~

With all due respect, in a perfect world, wouldn't it be awesome if everyone could live the homeopathic way?  Unfortunately, medicine is something that has saved many lives.  Yes, some lost but did it allow someone a longer life living with quality?  Homeopathic is a great way to live if one doesn't have any underlining problems that indeed need medical attention.  

I think back in the early 1800 &1900's when medicine wasn't as practiced as it is now, not much was known about certain illness', now, with dedicated scientists, doctors, nurses etc...their goal is to save ones life and have them live a longer life.  Has it not shown that our lifespan is much longer than in the past?  That isn't by accident, it's because more is known about drugs and how it effects the body, mind and soul.

In a perfect world, we'd all love to live off the land.  I pray one day, that may happen.  My logical part tells me that it will never happen, but one can dream

Warm regards, 

Frustrated

Yes Tiswas and Frustrated,

That elusive dream of Utopia. I fear like the will-o-the-wisp we will never find it as each of us has a different shape for Utopia. Ah, but we can dream beautiful dreams.

Have you ever noticed that people we dislike have friends? We don't like those friends eirther. And that group do not like our friends any more than they like us. No hope for Utopia I fear.

But we of like mind can dream beautiful dreams together.

George/Doc

Before my mum's dog died she used to feed her porridge, and tins of sardines. Dried dog food too. The dog didn't die from porridge and sardines by the way! 

I know a Homeopath, she was my anatomy, physiology and pathology tutor form college, who used homeopathy to cure herself from ME, which is why she became a homeopath.

Drugs often have terrible side effects, which need other drugs to counter them and yet other drugs to counter them. Also they only treat symptoms, not the cause or roots of the problems. They're not holistic medicine. Saying that there are a few that I have to use but I won't when, or if I can find healthy alternatives.

have you not tried what the  homeopath used to treat her ME

hun . i no it veries from person to person .its the only medncine i no of that is fitted to the person and there symptoms instead of just the symptoms

the lady in our pet shop had a standered poodle that was very poorly with her stomach she tried everything all sorts of special dog food ,and diets still she had dirahree,[the dog not the lady] one day she was eating sardines in tomatoe sauce and dropped one and the dog woolfed it down and was fine ,so thats what she fed her 

sardines in tomatoe sauce

, and my tarot reader has a Alsatation wait for it that is alergic to meat any kind of meat and he gets dirorea , we are all differant .

why would i think your mums dog would die from eating sardines and porridge 

we are all differant ,i love salad and whole meal bread but if i eat them i become constapated and have terriable cramps for days sometimes over a week my body at the moment just cant cope with it ,but give me a piece of steak i am fine yet others i know find problems with meat .