Has Any One Else Noticed this Unusual Vision Issue with Symfony Lens
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I had a cataract surgery on my right eye a week back and decided to go with A Symfony Toric Lens because of all the positive things I have read about the lens. I have had a IOL in my left eye for almost 18 years, which I have been happy with for reading, so that I was looking basically for good distance and intermediate vision with the Symfony (I am used to monovision for the last 25 years).
My right eye still has some astigmatism (slowly improving), had issue with seeing streaks from lights for only the first 3 days, am seeing halo around the lights (will probably get adjusted to it), but also have another interesting vision issue which I had not seen mentioned by any of the doctors or the patients on the web. Using just my right eye, I don't just see a halo around a light, but see about 7 perfect concentric circles around the light, with the diameter of the outermost circle being about 3-4 times that of the halo diameter. Since the Symfony lens has the unique feature of having about the same number of circular “diffractive echelette design” in the lens, I am sure that the concentric circles which I am seeing is because of this proprietary design.
Looking through these circles to look at a light is like looking at a light through a spider web. It is not so bad that I wish that I had not selected Symfony lens (I like the Extended Vision), but why has this effect not been publicized more? Have any of the other Symfony Lens users experienced seeing these concentric circles?
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Guest at201
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I would say colours are as if the brightness was turned up slightly on everything in the distance so lightening all colours but it is quite a small change and actually gives better detailed view due to lightening up some darkened details that could not be seen before.
An example is looking at a tree from 200 yards away i can now see the trunk and branches through the leaves that was not visible before as it was in shade.
Back lit items such as led monitor and tv colours are very similar. I have been testing watching snooker which has lots of different colours.
frances75444 Guest
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Bravogoldenk9 frances75444
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Night-Hawk frances75444
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I recall the first week or two with my right eye IOL, I also seemed to perceive a purplish/violet haze and colorcast on some things, also extra bright. I think the retina had to get used to the brighter image thru the IOL and after some weeks and now after 6 months I don't observe that stuff. Colors all look accurate and no violet haziness.
frances75444 Night-Hawk
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Bravogoldenk9 frances75444
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i would think your dr would have discussed this color issue or whomever did follow up.
my dr said no surgery is yet perfect though I must say I am thrilled with mine.No glasses, and full range though must have very good light for sharp contrast with small print
rpk0925 Bravogoldenk9
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Hello Bravogoldenk9 ... When you say that you must have very good light for sharp contrast with small print, is that another way of saying that the small print isn't in focus (or is blurry) in low light? I see comments every once in a while referring to contrast ... just trying to make sure I know what people are referring to. Thanks.
Bravogoldenk9 rpk0925
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in any event I no longer have presbyopia.Ratner a slight loss of contrast close up unless good light.I got use to it quickly and love being glasses free..The other day I needed to read tiny print and just went over to window.Small thing to do for me not to be nearsighted anymore.
dr said no artificial lens is going to replace our natural one.However the years take their toll and I am grateful to have almost perfect vision..
Bravogoldenk9 rpk0925
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Sue.An rpk0925
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Nothing is like one’s natural lens but once cataracts affect your vision one has to make a compromise. I too enjoy the glasses free vision I have with Symfony. Haven’t looked back since surgeries and wish I had chosen differently. That being said I think one can be pleased with other options too.
frances75444 Sue.An
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Bravogoldenk9 frances75444
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Sue.An frances75444
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rpk0925 Sue.An
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I've heard people talk about "contrast" issues, but never saw a description of what that meant. Thank you. I'm assuming this only happens with Symfony lenses? Maybe that's why I feel like things are darker in low light now than before I had cataract surgery. ??? (Before surgery, I never saw any of the side effects that I'm seeing since the surgery. That must be why it's hitting me so hard. It's been devastating to me).
rpk0925 Bravogoldenk9
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Thank you for the reply Bravogoldenk9. I'll do a Google search on it. Am I right in assuming that you do not lose the contrast if you opt for a mono-focal lens? (I'm still considering a lens exchange in the one eye that I had operated on ... a Symfony lens to a standard lens ... but honestly, I'm not sure if I have the courage to go through a 2nd surgery on the same eye. I'm having enough trouble getting through the surgery one time, let alone two).
rpk0925
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Okay, I did a Google search on contrast sensitivity. After looking at one of the charts, maybe contrast sensitivity is the reason I'm feeling like colors don't look as rich as they did before surgery (while watching a movie in a theater) ... and why things don't look as detailed anymore.
Bravogoldenk9 rpk0925
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my non professional thought is it may be your cornea healing.Oddly corneas have alot more to do with vision than i ever knew..in my reading i learned it can take months for vision to stabilize.That is why they only do lens exchanges if something went wrong..damaged lens, error in measure etc
as to your color issues it might be retina issues, cornea etc but nowhere did color issues come up other than a yellowed cataract natural lens gradually had you see filtered colors which became normal.Now you see color unfiltered.
My dr said offering new lens is not for everybody..High strung engineers demand perfection.I will say in the olden days cataract surgery was nasty .Lens removed, heavy glasses..we are lucky
i stopped noticing halos, accept i need light for tiny print and see my garden for what it is...the blue hostas stand out as never before
Sue.An rpk0925
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rpk0925 Bravogoldenk9
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Thank you again for the input Bravogoldenk9. I wouldn't say I'm high strung, but I am a perfectionist type of person.
Sometimes I do think back to my grandparents, who wore the Coke bottle glasses, and think how lucky we are to have advanced as far as we have (in terms of eye technology) since those days.
Also, I sometimes wonder why so many people with mono lenses set for distance, don't feel a need to wear glasses most of the time ... except to read very fine print. That sounds almost identical to multi focal lenses to me (except they have less of the side effects). ???
Bravogoldenk9 rpk0925
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Sue.An rpk0925
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In most cases those with monofocal lenses get that ability to read through mini monovision not both set for distance. Yes some might but that is more to do with their corneas vs lenses. And some with monofocal lenses will experience issues with halo and glare too just % wise less than those with EDIF or multifocal lenses.There are no 2 eyes the same. And outcomes will vary person to person.
What I think you have to do is aim for the best but be prepared to be content if best case scenario does not work out.
I had about 12 others with me at the hospital to see our surgeon for 24 post op and while waiting we chatted and could watch each other have the eye exam (chart reading by technician) while we waited for our turn to see the surgeon for a closed door thorough exam.
I was the only one who had opted for Symfony that day - the others had monofocals and the majority of them did even know there were lens options. They had seen their optometrist like me and told they had cataracts. If I think back it was me who asked about lens options because I had researched and been on forums and reading before I had my consult. I was with this same group of people for right eye surgery and left eye. So lots of time together to chat as we had hours to wait together for surgeries and 24 post ops. I can tell you not one of them could read with monofocals set for distance. They said even with iPad with fully extended arms it was hard without cheaters or enlarging the font.
Of course this is a small sampling I realize but there is a reason why (and this includes EDOF and multifocal lenses) that one can expect to still need glasses. Multifocals and EDOF lenses allow you to be less glasses dependant but still no guarantees.
I wish I could have it all but with today’s available options - just not reality. You can’t make a decision based on someone else’s outcome. Again hope for the best but know it may not be as perfect as you would want.
Bravogoldenk9 Sue.An
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also meetings had many drs talking about corneas and dry eye in older people and what to do with unhappy patients..at what point a lens exchange or laser touch up...?
i loved the research and enjoyed having an intelligent discussion with dr...not a passive person..i think you were fretting over the upcoming surgery at one time
i was measured so many times probably because i asked so many questions and made him nervous about it not coming out 20/20 and j1 close
frances75444 Sue.An
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Sue.An frances75444
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rpk0925 frances75444
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For what it's worth, I have the same feelings regarding the dinginess.