Heavy metals and glandular fever

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Hi all

Just wanted to share some info that might be relevant or helpful. I'm eleven months in and although I'm feeling soooo much better, I'd say I'm generally still only at 80% of my pre glandular fever capacity with fatigue, anxiety,  muscle aches and dizziness still being issues a few times a month. 

I went to see a naturopath yesterday who does live blood screening and she said that my immune system looks excellent and if I hadn't have told her I had glandular fever, she wouldn't have been able to tell, BUT that I had a lot of heavy metals in my system which really needed to by death with. (I also saw her incidentally right before my illness and I had no heavy metal build up at that time.)

She said while you're fighting a chronic infection your liver is really strained and can't do its job of clearing out heavy metals effectively, but also that glandular fever and CMV viruses feed off these metals and it can make the viruses worse. I did a bit of reading and some articles said "when glandular fever and CMV are feeding off heavy metals it can lead to symptoms like muscle aches, anxiety, anemia and central nervous system dysfunction."  I am a healthy eater, don't smoke, don't eat processed food and before the virus was vegetarian for ten years so I really think the viruses had something to do with this current heavy metal issue.

So perhaps my lingering symptoms are now metal related and no longer the virus. Heavy metal toxicity on its own causes anxiety, central nervous system issues, nausea, anemia, fatigue and muscle aches- my symptoms! I just wanted to share my experience to make you aware of this complication in case it's relevant to you. 

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    Hey KS, 

    Love to hear that your doing better, and I’m sorry for your liver issues, it could be a possible cause of the physical and mental symptoms, but hang in there I do see full recovery for you! Remember it will continue to get better, and when things are going well try not to worry and enjoy the improvement. Keep your head up and I’m really sorry of this complication you have, but it will pass so do your best to help your body and think on the bright side!!

    -young boy 

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      Thank you so much for your encouragement. I hope you are making a good recovery too! I am just happy to be feeling better than I was a few months ago so am looking on ththe bright side as you say 😊

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    Hi KS,

    I want to thank you for posting this update on you health status. Like you, I was very healthy and took very good care of myself with a clean diet and exercise. I am 4 months into an EBV/CMV and dengue virus diagnosis (yes, triple whammy!). I've seen my family physician, tropical medicine, infectious disease, neurology, mouth pathologist, along with 5 ER visits. All blood work is all normal, IgM EBV and CMV negative now but I am feeling worse now in some ways. My symptoms have manifested neurologically and my skin has broken out like I am a teenager again. I have started to see a naturopath who suggested that I get tested for mold....also considering coffee enemas!....maybe metals is the next thing I need to look at....my symptoms are pins and needles throughout body (the worst!), anxiety, headaches, fatigue. I will bring this info to my naturopath next week. Thank you for sharing. Please continue to share any new protocols that you think may be helping you.

    Here is to our continued healing.

    Kiki 

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      Hi kikisan, I'm so sorry to hear that you're struggling with three viruses! That is so awful and it must take a lot of strength to get through the bad days. I'm really glad to hear that you're seeking guidance from lots of different health professionals. I found that my dr was only really good for blood tests and medical certificates but that my chiropractor and naturopath have been the most helpful in terms of me understanding how to best support my body throughout my illness (I also had CMV and glandular fever).  Currently I still have pins and needles and a hot sensation mostly in my feet, fatigue and really aching shoulders and neck around 30% of the time overall I'd say. I still remain confident though that we will get well and that we are so much closer now to being back to 100% than we were a few months ago.

      For the heavy metals, my naturopath has me taking spirulina tablets, slippery elm powder and eating stewed apples and I will go back in a month for her to recheck my blood to see if it's made a difference. (She said it's important to not only draw out the metals from the tissues, but to also 'mop them up' and eliminate them, otherwise they just keep recirculating round your body.) I will let you know of the outcome after I go.

      I hope you start to see an improvement in how you're feeling soon kikisan, and just hold on to the fact that you are getting better with each passing day, and that you will make a 100% recovery. Keep resting and supporting yourself.

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      Let us know how you get on with the recommended tablets / diet for the metals KS, something I maybe think about too if it seems like something is working! Sometimes if you can just grasp onto something that you see working it can help give you so much confidence and comfort and hope. Really hoping this helps as you and Kiki have been through such awful times.

      Kiki I know that words can't describe how tough what you've been going through must be, I can see such strength in you in how you're dealing with things. I wish I could be stronger in dealing with my own issues just feel like resilience is gone at the moment and not responding well or showing the courage I need to right now. Really hoping for a breakthrough for you soon Kiki and thinking about you.

      Craig

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      Hi KS,

      Thank you so much for your encouragement. I also need to remind myself that yes, I was assaulted by 3 viruses since mid-January. I realize that I need to be somewhat patient and gentle with myself, but it seems to be a herculean task. It's a constant battle against my mind wandering into dark places that are not helpful to my healing. I am quite sure I caught EBV/CMV in mid-Jan and Dengue in March. I can imagine what PTSD might feel like. I am sure you can well understand the pain and suffering I am going through.....I know what you mean about doctors...the system is good for blood tests and scans but that seems to be where it ends. My ID and family doc both say I have a very competent immune system and that I just need to give it time. Seriously?  how do they really know that?.....with no disrespect, easy for them to say. 

      I will be seeing my naturopath (Dr. Sharon Kelly - Toronto) on Friday. She's new. I've only seen her once but I like her approach and feel like I want to trust that she is looking at my issues with holistic intelligence. By no means have I ditched all the other cast of characters but have adjusted my expectations. Once I review my state of health with Dr. Kelly on Friday, I will share with you my revised protocol. 

      KS, I love that you are improving! I am rooting for both of us. I would be most grateful if we could continue to share our progress and means of our healing process....and Craig, I am rooting for you too! You have been a pillar of strength and support that so many of us suffering are so grateful for. I have have such a wonderful chiropractor here in Toronto. I wish I could send him to you smile

      ...to our continued journey closer and closer to homeostasis

      Let's get well soon

      Kiki xx

       

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      Thanks so much for the kind words and for rooting for me Kiki, it means a lot especially today as had a setback yesterday with some blood tests that shown an abnormality with the kidney which has got me very worried. Just hoping and praying God can be with everyone on the forum and guide us through our tough times and bring healing in the name of Jesus.

      Thinking about you Kiki and I know you are going through such a hard time, just hang in there and praying for your recovery.

      Craig

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      I can only imagine what going through three viruses must feel like, I am so sorry that you are going through this. Try not to let the dark thoughts take hold as that is just fear talking and the human body has an amazing capacity for healing and getting well. I found Epsom salt baths a godsend when I started panicking or getting anxious about my health. It's a really good way of absorbing magnesium which is good for the nervous system. Just make sure you drink lots of water afterwards.

       I would love to continue to share our wellness journeys and means, and am very interested in hearing what your naturopath advises. 

      Sending lots of hugs from Australia, wishing you gentle and rapid healing  xx 

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      Hi Craig, I'm so sorry to hear about your blood test results, it must be very concerning to hear that. Did the dr provide you with enough information and recommendations of what to do? I find sometimes the worst worry comes from feeling like you don't understand or have enough information.

      Make sure you give yourself lots of support by resting, speaking further with your dr and also reaching out to close friends and family and sharing with them how you're feeling. Of course we are all here to support you too. Praying that your kidneys heal quickly and easily. 

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      Hey KS,

      Thanks so much for the kind and comforting words, they really are appreciated. Struggling as many people on this site are to get the right guidance and direction from doctors, having to do more research myself than I'd like.

      Thank you for your prayers and really hoping and praying things get better for you soon too - thinking about you!

      Craig

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      Hello down under!

      I hope you are as well as can be these days. As promised, I will share with recommendations from my naturopathic doctor.....I have already mentioned that I am recovering from CMV/EBV and dengue virus...on top of which I was tested for mould and and am off the charts for a certain type (Sterigmatocystin (STC)). She believes that I should be treating the mould it's toxic effects can be immune impairing and therefore not helping with the healing process of the viruses.......so she is prescribing Nystatin, Saccharomyces Boulardii (both anti-fungal), bentonite clay, charcoal and chlorella. I am a little shell-shocked as having this new information on top of everything else is a bit too much. That said, I think this practitioner is very competent and I have confidence in her. We'll likely look at the possibility of heavy metals next on this crazy journey...

      I am in bed now with my hot magnesium and am wishing my temple a good night's rest. 

      Bye for now from Toronto,

      be well,

      Kiki x

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      Hi Kiki,

      That's only understandable you would be a bit shocked taking in new information like that on top of everything else going on, I really hope that the stuff she has prescribed can really help and make a difference. Remember most people are never tested for these kind of things and most probably have some kind of imbalances in different areas, etc, so don't worry it's most likely the virues and things causing things to be a bit out of balance, but hoping these supplements can really help.

      Good luck Kiki I know you must be so weary and tired right now - I've been feeling that way myself and it's not easy to hold onto hope when the trial goes on so long is so intense and harsh. Just hoping and praying for God's protection and guidance to get through it and that we can allow Him to take our issues away from us completely - I do allow that and praying for His help today.

      Hang in there and thinking of you, hugs!

      Craig

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      Also Kiki just wondering more about the naturopath you see and how they work - how do they test for the metals in your body, what is the process they use? It is definitely something I would consider seeing someone like that for some help and guidance.

      Craig

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      Hi Kiki,

      I’m so sorry that you have been dealing with all the viruses, and that you have mould problems! I totally agree with Craig on that I hope the supplements can help, and I think taking the mould problem will hell your immune system you you will fight the viruses better! Good luck I’m rooting for you and know it will get better and you will get through this!! 

      Youngboy

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      ...thank you so much for you support youngboy.....I hope you are hanging in there too! 

      Kiki x

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      Hi kikisan, thank you for sharing your update with us. I can imagine it must have been a shock to learn that yet another thing was impacting on your health, I'm sorry to hear that you have a mold issue. I guess though finding out and being able to treat it is much better than having this underlying issue affecting your immune health without you knowing it. I really hope you start to feel some improvements as a result of starting on the supplements.

      I have been on my detox for a couple of weeks now and sort of have felt worse this past week but that's normal when you're detoxing apparently. 

      I hope you're having a better health day today. 😊

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      Hi Craig, I'm sorry to hear that you've been struggling lately. When it comes to health issues, it can be a really distressing and out of control experience and a hopelessness that takes you over, as I know you know, and as everyone here knows too. I hope you can find some guidance and clarity soon to help comfort you, as it sounds like it's been a long time that you've been dealing with this health issue. I've found my naturopath has been really helpful and I'm sure one could also help you.

      My natropath does live blood screening which means she takes a drop of blood and looks at it under the microscope and you can see all your cells right in front of you. This is how she diagnosed my heavy metal toxicity but I'm sure other natropaths have alternative techniques. Another practitioner that I have found comfort in is a kinesiologist but it's a bit more out there and not for everyone. Praying that you make a breakthrough in finding a proper and useful diagnosis and treatment plan soon. Thinking of you Craig. 

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      Hello KS,

      Thank you for such an encouraging and kind message, those really do help when going through hard times and I really appreciate it! You're so right it's hard to stop yourself from being discouraged or losing confidence when going through health issues that seem to prolong, I just hope and pray God can help us all on the fourm here He knows each one of our individual issues and just trusting in Him to pull us through. You have been through such a hard time KS and if anyone deserves a break and turning point it's you, and I still truly believe that time will come and is on its way right now.

      Thanks for sharing the information about how a naturopath tests for metals and things, it's the first time I've heard anything like that from you guys on the forum but definitely something I will consider - as you know when feeling so low and unwel you will try anything to give you some hope and encouragement and get you on the right track again. Really hoping that the naturopath is helping you and is giving really good advice and support!

      Take care KS and thinking about you and praying for you too! Going to the doctors today hoping it can give me some help and reassurance. Hang in there everyone!

      Craig

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