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Help me please. I can not use Vagifem or Estriol cream...!

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caroline25937
caroline25937

Any women out there had the same problems as me?

I'm 44 and very recently my gyne has informed me that he believes I'm hitting the change rolleyes   He gave me Estriol estregen to try and help with the uretha/bladder/frequency  issues that I appear to be having. Well after two weeks of using this cream the symptoms were worse with uretha spasms and more pelvic pain.

Recently he put me onto Vagifem and I could only tolerate it 5 days use and had to stop using it last weekend  due to the same issues, more pelvic pain and upset stomach, bladder pain/spasms  etc etc.

These topical treatments are mean't to be helping apparently  but only appear to be making things worse for me?!!!

My gyne is on holiday for two weeks and now I'm in a pickle and have no idea what to do now or what will help me.

If I have a problem with loading with estregen internally  then what on earth am I to do ????

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  • bobbysgirl
    bobbysgirl caroline25937

    Posted

    Hello Caroline,

    I am sorry you are having such an awful time. I'm afraid I have no experience of either of those 'treatments', but they do sound rubbish!

    Your Gyne sounds like a doctor I once had. It was in the days before everything was on computer. When you went into the surgery, he already had your name and address written out on the persciption pad. He just had to fill in the 'med' he was prescribing.

    If you are getting pain like that perhaps he should be sending you for tests to find out why.

    I'm finding these days that a lot of our ills can be cured through the right diet and nutrition (or at the very least, helped) and without all the side effects of meds.

    I hope you hear soon from someone on here with similar experiences and I hope you get your doc working for you instead of palming you off with meds that don't work.

     

    • caroline25937
      caroline25937 bobbysgirl

      Posted

      yes  ..thanks Bobbysgirl.

      It really is a nightmare.

      I just want to know what I should be doing as nobody not even the doctor I went to see this morning knows what to do for the best. He said really I will have to wait until my gyne is back from holiday???!!!

      No help at all.

  • froggy28
    froggy28 caroline25937

    Posted

    Hi. Have you ever been looked at for endometriosis as this feeds on estrogen and can affect bladder and bowel as well as womb area so increase of symptoms with hrt could be flaring it up further. Some of my symptoms could have been confused for menopause. Were you tested for hormone levels? I'm probably completely wrong but it just struck a cord with me and my story.
    • caroline25937
      caroline25937 froggy28

      Posted

      Hi Froggy

      Trust me..endometriosis has already sailed through my mind afew times.. and the laparoscopy I am having done in two weeks may show something more.  

      The gyne has been treating me recently for what he believes to be me going into menopause and he ran blood test and the said my FSH was slightly elevated and on that basis he thinks I am hitting the change. My own doctor said that she didn't think by my blood results that I was hitting the change at all ???   But obviously the Gyne is the expert.

      I am very worried because like you say a lot of the symptoms I have been experiencing do associate massively with endometriosis  and I did read somewhere recently that feeding estregen does actually make things worse... so YES... I am very concerned as you can imagine.

      What symptoms were you having. Can you name as many as you can for me please if possible???   thanks x

    • froggy28
      froggy28 caroline25937

      Posted

      Pain in womb area each time I moved quickly without thinking ie picking something off floor. Pain in hips. Weight gain around hips only. Shoulder pain. Diarrhoea during period sorry tmi there. I didn't have the heavy periods. Opposite really only lasted a few days at most although they could be really painful so I couldn't sit down. Pain in bum literally lol sharp right up inside especially during period. I didn't have problem having kids though and was blessed with 2. I had lap and woke up to find thay my bowel bladder ovaries and womb had fused together with endo. I've now had a total hysterectomy and oophorectomy a year ago now just before my 40th birthday. I hope you get answers soon x
    • caroline25937
      caroline25937 froggy28

      Posted

      thanks for that. I'm getting a lot of bowel/wind issues  almost like contraction feelings, sometimes pain in vagina and bum area... sorry tmi....pain sometimes tops of thighs....pelvic pain...back pain and sometimes sharp stabbing pains... headaches... and bladder pain/spasms  frequency, jippy tummy sometimes esp recently when using the vagifem....and for a few months some right sided loin/flank pain.

      my periods are all over the place and more so over the last few months.... one lasted 3 weeks and the more recent one lasted just a few days and was VERY light....  had a 50 day gap between that period and the one before.

      I'm dreading the lap. Never been put under before. never had anything done before..rolleyes

      scared wondering what the hell is going on.

      x

    • froggy28
      froggy28 caroline25937

      Posted

      It was my first op too and I was a nervous wreck but it is fine I promise. It's amazing how the body heals. It is sore but not for too long a few weeks but to me the period pain was worse. Just take the pain killers they offer straight after op. After a few days I was sore but didn't need pain killers at all. The op itself is as simple as falling asleep and waking up again almost instantly but a few hours passed which is weird!
    • caroline25937
      caroline25937 froggy28

      Posted

      The lap is just to go in and have a look, at this stage there is no intention of doing anything further unless he finds something that needs sorting there and then.

      I'm scared of just having the lap procedure  thinking I'm gonna be waking in agony.. its worrying me sick.

    • froggy28
      froggy28 caroline25937

      Posted

      They can't do anything more than cleaning up if they need to without your consent. It will hurt when you first wake up but not unbearable as they'll pump pain killers before then. It really isn't as bad as your mind is telling you. Looking back.... the anxiety before is worse than any pain
    • bobbysgirl
      bobbysgirl froggy28

      Posted

      Don't know why I didn't think of that! I had endometriosis on my gut and was in agony every month. They thought it was all sorts of things and wouldn't listen when I said it happened every month at the same time as my period started.

      Long story short it was 'fixed' by going on the pill for a year non stop. Don't know if that helps or hinders.confused

    • caroline25937
      caroline25937 froggy28

      Posted

      I'm dreading waking up..rolleyes  scared to death !!

      Anxiety at the moment is literally through the roof.

      x

    • caroline25937
      caroline25937 bobbysgirl

      Posted

      if it is Endo  then i will be livid that I've been given Estregen to use for the last few weeks...

      we shall see.

    • bobbysgirl
      bobbysgirl

      Posted

      Oh forgot to say, I had a laproscopy too. They found 'a few, tiny spots' on my gut,near the appendix (how it got there I'll never know) and those 'few tiny spots' caused me a LOT of grief.

      The lap went fine but they managed to drag some of the tissue back, resulting in my belly button bleeding every month!eek At least it proved that it was endometriosis even though I did feel like part of a freak show every time I went for a check up.

    • froggy28
      froggy28 caroline25937

      Posted

      Go and treat yourself to something you love to take your mind off although I know how you are feeling so it's better said than done. I know it sounds bad but you do feel like you are just part of a conveyor belt of people going through the theatre. They do this op all the time and you should take this as a good thing. Take something with you to read or do as it can be a long wait on the day. I've only had a few ops and was last one down both times!!
    • caroline25937
      caroline25937 froggy28

      Posted

      I'm first one to be seen on the 19th... first on the list.

      I've got to be strong I know..its just me panicing rolleyes

    • froggy28
      froggy28 caroline25937

      Posted

      Best place is first as no waiting and watching others coming in and out and going home whilst you are still waiting and worrying. It is absolutely normal to feel like this. Just think it will soon be over
    • froggy28
      froggy28 caroline25937

      Posted

      You're welcome any questions concerns between now and then just ask
    • caroline25937
      caroline25937 froggy28

      Posted

      Thanks  smile  I forgot to mention I'm also having a hysteroscopy done at the same time, which looks at the womb/uterus....

      I was up all night very anxious..again !!   Trying my best to keep calm but like you say its never gonna be like that..

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