Hi about to try a little experiment on lichen planus and lichen sclorosis

tHANK YOU SO MUCH for being here TBF...I'd like to join you again in October. This is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I will try to do something with you in October..might only be a 48 again simply cause of work...I read something on oral lichen about vit c dosage stuff plus zinc dosage  some people said it worked for them but some did not..so uncertain again..all is calm on my end..(pun)  We now have to see if there is any shift in this and yes or no stick it down here so anyone reading this will be fully informed..Proud and please we did itXX

proud of you too!

Hi Sky

I'm sorry to hear you are under the weather. I feel pretty super-energised after the fasting.

yep thats how I felt till yesterday afternoon..major energy drop after over carbed..sort of a cake afternoon cause we were all training on something..serves me right for pigging out...but was being polite and there was nothing else XX

well i'm having a slug day....enjoying a rest and exploring more of these fab webinars....have found a challenging recipe for me....suited for those with thyroid/adrenal issues ....could write it up here..or somwhere else if anyone interested? 

Marey just inboxed you something that may be of interest

THANK YOU so much for both of the amazing pieces of work which you sent me...i have spent the whole day in the lap of luxury enjoying them...and i did the quizz!

May i pass these on ?   they are both excellent items. Thank you so much again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!    xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

You're very welcome. Pass them on to whom ever wants them, they are just things I come across on the internet that I think are worth passing on as knowledge is power

yey!  thank you again xxxxxx

me...i've done that...had help!

Odd question, I've painted my house and other people's houses before

Ok...Marey knows this one..I have had mysterious skin problems on and off for 2 years..nothing in the blood has been found and the problem died away..However last week I painted my attic. On the 2nd day the skin around/above where the thryroid gland is began to prickle(as it has done before) the next night the skin on my upper arms became mottled and red. When I got up in the middle of the night one side of my neck was bright red..so I have just got back from my doctor who said the chemicals in paint can cause a lot of skin problems. My house is old. I did a bit of research and it is possible an arsenic based paint might have been used. However I have just talked to a decorator who informed me that up to about 1965 lead paint was used on walls and that you must never disturb it..which I cannot say I was aware of..but..when I looked at that long lists of vaious ingredients on that  modern paint tin I could not help but wonder what we have been exposed to or what we might have washed other clothing with(paint splattered against normal)maybe towels or undies.. My question is what if something so everyday can be..to some people..a real problem..what if there are certain times our bodies are more open to absorption..a common denominator??

I have painted this house quite a lot in the last few years...

run with this...its quite an interesting one....are we the manual traders? the ones in the population who've had high exposure to chemicals...of any sort? i'm pretty sure that chemicals and TOXINS have got me.....as well as stress.

specifically i was having to do a lot of spraying....weed killer to protect my horses from 'ragwort' ...a horse killer due to it being poisonous....my house's boundary walls to protect from valerian....an ancient stone wall destroyer....whereas previously i had manually pulled these up in the couple of years or so before i got LS i had resorted to this spraying. I used 'round up'. i now appreciate this glycosphate and GMO is a massively harmful product and needs to be banned...as do all the activities of Monsanto. President Putin refuses to speak to Obama til he addresses this evil company and  closes it down....good pressure. we could all do with joining in to resist this global giant! .....anyone else aware of GMO's and chemicals...including lead and other heavy metal house paints?

Logically, if this condition was first noted in 1890 something, this is unlikely to be the fault of modern chemicals.  In fact it is more likely on this basis to be the fault of ragwort or even dear old valerian - but I doubt this.

 

Hi everyone..what I do not like is the skin on my neck directly over my thyroid gland and maybe and inch or so in diametre is prickling as I write..so odd..I suppose that is the bit that got directly in paint line..but I have to say the Doctor was not suprised. Marey is there anything in roundup that is in paint..China refused GMO crops to land on its shores and turned away the shipment the US sent..they said it had not been tested enough..good for them! When I think of 1890 I remember makeup(not personally) don't know when they stopped using arsnic in what historians term as face paint..something that was put on to give a white velvet skin..and there was a lot of lead around..including water pipes..don't know..but I will have a read up..but good material is likely more at uni than on the internet..

hi margaret...interesting 1890 please do tell us more!

by the way where were you for the fast ? we missed you! you were one of the early ones to come in on it. Sky said you'd dropped off the radar... everything ok?

This is just copied and paste from Wikipedia

History

Lichen sclerosus (LS) is also known as lichen sclerosus et atrophicus (LSA), balanitis xerotica obliterans (BXO), Csillag's disease, Lichen albus, Hypoplastic dystrophy, White Spot Disease and kraurosis vulvae. Typically it's called LSA or BXO when it affects men, LS when it affects women or in referring to the disease in general, and pediatric lichen sclerosus when it affects children. LS is usually found in the groin area, but sometimes on the upper leg or thigh.

Lichen sclerosus et atrophicus was first described in 1887 by Dr. Hallopeau.[34] Since not all cases of lichen sclerosus exhibit atrophic tissue, et atrophicus was dropped in 1976 by the International Society for the Study of Vulvovaginal Disease (ISSVD), officially proclaiming the name lichen sclerosus.[35]

Hmm thanks margaret..I wil have a read..To clarify I am just examining possible triggers..one more avenue. For example it's looking at the binding agents which meld different chemicals into a whole..and understanding what root substance however distant they sprang from. I figure is I start there it should take a year or so..no joke on that one..The problem is this disease is believed to be auto immune..I don't like the word believed..it is simply not factual enough for me..and I also think examining factors which could be common denominators can be important even if those common denominators only affect people who are disposed to have a weakness in some way..So I am open minded..but looking at my skin at present quite curious on this

I heard that about China too. They have some good strong values remaining from their culture of 'friendship first'...they also exposed the practices that drug reps use ...ie drug lunches etc as sales pitches...stating that its bribery and not on their shores. Plus this turning away of Monsanto is uplifting. Yes good for them!   I so hope the rest of the world can also turn down these GMO's. Its absolutely vital if the planet is to have a future.

am concerned about this prickling that you have. Can you  drink loads and loads of filtered water and de-tox tea....? You have got to flush out your system. also try skin brushing vigourously in the bath and load it up also with epsom salts..got to get these residues out of you . Can you get out of the house as much as poss to escape fumes and leave doors and windows open?

How do we find out about the commonalities of these ingredients? They are all chemicals. Brilliant connection between lead in pipes and victorian makeup!! You are on the ball girl !!!!!!!!!!!!

First degree is in history..and passion is a lot of girly things..hmm whist we are talking sort of GMO lets not forget that there is a rice crop from a country that grows a lot of it and has a few problem with radiation out there and being shipped for market(but don't ask me to what countries the article did not specify)..read about that one the other day..I like rice!

Right..there are only so many root chemicals in the World and everything we use is derived from these. Its a bit like a tree with branches growing all over the place..So unfortunately it is looking at each ingredient in common substances and tracing them back to the parent..very generational..and a lot of work..however this does not mean it cannot be done..I am getting greyer by the minute..but..my guess is that there will be some type of research to tap into somewhere..and it is a matter of hunting..XX

thanks for that reminder....is there not some boffin somewhere who likes fielding these kinds of questions?... in addition to yourself ofcourse !? am thinking of how best to spare your grey hairs !!  tho i doubt you will be thrown off course!