Holy Basil Leaf

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Does anyone take this?

Has it helped?

How much and when do you take it?

(I had a mad ordering spree after reading loads of stuff last week and I can't remember half of the reasons why!)

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    hi jane it's me using holy basil and i really like it. It seems to lower cortisol levels which can be a side effect of too much progesterone and low oestrogen. It has lots of amazing properties and is calming provided not got additional stresses than normal menopause. I've only been taking it this week and i think the best benefits will come longer term but so far no side effects and i really like it. Smells good too lol. Also low cost. I've tried most things on this forum and much more. I want to try and share the positive as well. i use the swanson superior herbs variety as i think they do vary a lot in quality and this is low cost as well. after trial i think the best way to take it is one at the start of the night and then one if you wake up around 5 and you should go back to sleep where is i can stay awake all night w/o it. seems to work very well with the magnesium spray. I'm not sure what your issues are with menopause but mine is by far worse with the insomnia so that's why i take it. Hope it helps you anyway.
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      Hi are you on HRT? I have not been on it long first 1/10 then 2/10 for last 2 months, as I inadvertently forgot to take it away on holiday and effectively went cold turkey, felt bad and dr upped my dose as she thought oestrogen took a dip (no test though). Was wondering if holy Basil affected HRT.  I too am still finding insomnia and it's repercussions the hardest part in last 2 months. How do you know you when you have too much Prog and Oestrogen? HRT is not great on its own but will speak to Meno Clinic this week for further advices and whether to come off it altogether for this reason.
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      Hi liz as i'm having an early menopause they didn't put me on hrt as i'm too young apparently. They gave me a low dose oestrogen pill instead. It helped for 3 weeks and then it stopped working. Like many of the other things have tried too. I don't think the holy basil would go well with hrt no as it effects the hormones from the adrenals outwards. i would say so it's probably not a good mix sadly. Do you feel the hrt what is helping you? If not you could try coming off it & try holy basil with the supplements that the girls recommend on here particularly the B mix and vitamin D. i also watch my diet and take 7 and a half milligrams or half the minimum dose of mirtazapine nightly. much worse without that. i also take vitamin c, omega 3, evening primrose oil, multivitamins and minerals and vitamin D spray. In the end i found that the magnesium spray gave me hot flashes as it produces oestrogen. Sad. The others all play a part in keeping the body stable somehow. They're static now for me. Then i just been trying herbs etc. This one holds promise so far week in.
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      the way my body tells me i have too much progesterone is i get ibs. The way it tells me i have too low oestrogen is i get itchy hands. Also hot flashes for the latter. Hope this helps. 3.5 yrs in now x
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      no it causes low oestrogen. I got hot flashes when i went on it and when i came off they went away. That's what my buddy does when i got low ooestrogen i get hot flashes xx was worth shot though.
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      Hi 

      well your taking oestrogen you say..

      so info you give about supplments for natural peri can be misleading 

      as people dont take any HRT and estrogen, Pills nothing ..

      so your side effects will be very different 

      jay x

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      sorry i see why you thought that now. I'm no longer on the low dose oestrogen pill. I give up things once i know that they're not helping or making it worse. I do give them a good trial before i give up though.
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      Hi rcharris 

      you did put produces oestrogen and gave you hot flushes for magnesium spray..

      you are increasing your own ostrogen with the oestrogen pill..

      dont know how long you have tried it for .... 

      people take HRT to eleviate peri symptoms .. they shouldnt need umpteen supplements like the natural route ..

      B6 good for peri symptoms, post meno symptoms and assists in absortion of HRT.

      i have reseached peri and supplements for many many years and had a natural peri for 10years and now post menopause ..

      best to check your info correct before posting as very confusing for people 

      when your trial things be nice to see how long for so we get a better understanding 

      jay

       

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      hi 

      lots of people get IBS and its not always to do with progesterone ..

      when your in peri menopause the hormones decline .. And oestrogen ...

      many many symptoms along the way ...

      jay x

       

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      you're right i have read the text again that was also my phone i meant to say magnesium lowers oestrogen which is what you had already written on a previous post as well yesterday i think. my apologies trying to multitask. as for the supplement that's why i said if she came off hrt. i understand your concern and i do try to see if it's early days if i'm trying something. I also appreciate that you have had more years into it now. But that doesn't mean we can't share ideas that's what the forum is for. it doesn't mean i have all the answers but it doesn't mean that you have either. We all have a say here.
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      Hi 

      yes we all have a say thats very true .. And that is what forum is for ..

      but we have to give the right info ... As good as we can ... Sharing experiences is very helpful..

      your post confused me, thought you were still on estrogen as that is what is said .. And magnesium was confusing..

      jay

       

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      hi 

      yes its good to try and help

      maybe you could tell us how lomg you trial your supps for aswell ..

      and the outcome... You mention so many ... But never say how long you have tried them ..

      a week or two weeks is not long enough to make any assumptions ..

      like HRT supplements take months to take effect and have to be constant and taken daily amd given time to work ..

      i am not having a go.. Just like to understand what your saying 

      jay 

       

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      ok well no harm done obviously just crossed wires appreciate everyone's input on this website it's valuable and it is important to bear in mind that what works for one may not work for another. that's ok we just help however we can. Thanks for clearing that up for me as well means that if anybody else was confused they now know what i meant. I also apologize if anybody was confused by what i wrote.
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      Hi yes thanks for your time. Been in early meno probably over 2 years prior to being diagnosed. Symptoms fairly innocuous until recently. No hot flushes per se really but the HRT  did help my mood initially in Feb but not now in last 2 months so am struggling to justify being on it other than because of my age and osteo etc. Taking more and more vits and supps so may opt for the natural route though I am very scared my oestrogen will slump further and affect my mood. Very frustrated on best path to take right now. Any suggestions on regulating and encouraging production of hormones if I do opt out of HRT anybody? L
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      and also for clarity the only one i have said on this forum of late that has been of benefit to me is the holy basil. i do try to be quite careful in what i say actually. I know what it's like. so as i said before it's early days but so far i do like the holy basil in terms of the insomnia of perimenopause. its low cost and doesn't have any real side effects so maybe it will help somebody else. Maybe not but it's out there.
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      hi king

      its a difficult one to answer that .. ' any suggestions on regulating and encouraging production of hormones if you opt out of HRT '

      as you know via natural route its allowing the hormones to decline as they want to in nature..

      this is my experience here ... 

      mine declined over 9-10 years..

      i used rain forest Maca alone in the very  beginning ...it was good for me..

      i use alsorts now ... Trailed them for months .. I must say for me the Vit E is the newer addition and been on it a month and its helped alot with the increasing flushes that returned this summer ( i hadnt had one for years) 

      but live in southern spain and its been a roaster of a summer ..

      a hot flush is the way we cool our bodies down in menopause .. 

      i had Gyno screening in August and was shown my ovaries all healthy .. But post Menopause now non functioning no follicles .. I am age 50 ..

      my Gyno said if ...... I wanted Estriol Ovestin vaginal cream .. estriol is the kinder oestrogen .. Its vaginal and keeps dryness at bay, plumps your vaginal wall and keeps the skin from thinning inside ..

      maybe you havent got to this stage 😕

      i generally feel great, had the natural route a long haul, found  the right supplements, and feel great..

      what you must think about is when you stop HRT you will go back in the peri again as your stopping the replaced hormones so bare that in mind ..

      and know your HRT what they give you, how its made, where its from.

      many are given Premarin and Prempak ... But docs fail to tell ladies this is pregnant mares urine ( horses) ummmm 

      i also use menapol plus x 2 

      some like black cohosh ... Its all what works for you personally...

      i swear by B6 ... I take 150mg daily with out fail .. 

      Even the doc gave me that in early peri 

      jay xx

       

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      Yes I have followed your advice also esp magnesium and busy b's. On Femosten 1/10 6 months and now 2/10 last 2 months see above. 2 years of tests showed in meno probably around 42 with no great symptoms. My sis did meno naturally and I am tempted now that HRT is not helping my current symptoms of insomnia and low mood which the dr thinks is due to an oestrogen slump. This started from when I forgot to bring my HRT on holiday in July or maybe was just coincidental but was fine until then.  My reply to rharris above explains. Have even tried a session of hynotherapy but this could prove expensive, to make me worry less and sleep more. Open to any solutions at all but it can get confusing. Wish meno was more structured than various for all women. Thanks for listening. L
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      Hi Kingliz

      oh i so feel for you... 

      i will say insomnia has been a problem for me for 12 years..

      when i saw my Gyno in August he actually spoke about this, asked me..

      its the actual dropping off to sleep for me.. and staying asleep..

      i must say i am terrible sleeper and a light sleeper and needed help..

      oh and if i need to get up real early for a reason ... thats it i never sleep as fear being asleep when i need to get up .. 

      and stress or worries makes it even worse ..

      i have Zoplicone for the dreadful nights.. thing is its not a good thing to take as people can become dependant ..

      i take it as a last resort.. they are 7.5 mg ... this sounds crazy but i halve them and then halve again so just take 1/4 some nights ... it helps..

      ' oh thank goodness for pill cutters' 

      also to my amazement .. my Gyno gave me diazepam 😳 2.5mg.. i havent taken any, but they are they if the anxiety kicks in.. which since B6 150mg from April this year anxiety has gone ..

      i wouldnt take zoplicone & diazepam .. blimey i would be iff my face ...☺️

      his logic was if i felt restless and over anxious then just take a 2.5mg diazepam occassionally to relax me before bed.. but i havent used those ..

      i live in Southern Spain Kingliz ... i am from UK originally but not seeking UK health Care ..

      maybe you need some help with the sleep a little asistance like me from time to time ... for me i was so shattered i couldnt go on with no sleep any longer, but ... i use 1/4 zopiclone on occasion now, as my chelated magnesium and my magnesium spray oil before bed is quite a relaxant for me .. .. or maybe sleep is i proving now post menopause ..

      i do feel for you - it makes bedtime a dread 

      jay xx

       

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