hookworm therapy for PMR?
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Have any of you had experience with using hookworm to dampen the autoimmune system and reduce the symptoms of PMR? Evidence seems to be accumulating on the effectiveness of this in treating other autoimmune disorders.
When I was first diagnosed, I assumed I’d have to take some prednisone for months or years and everything would be dandy. However, based on the experiences of those on this forum, and my own overwhelming fatigue, I am getting less optimistic. I would welcome a few intestinal fellow travelers if this would allow me to avoid both chronic inflammation and the side effects of long-term use of prednisone.
For information on this, you can google “hookworm” and “autoimmune,” or look for the program on parasites.
I’d really appreciate any information anyone might share on using this approach for PMR. Thanks!
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judytal snapperblue
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Don't get carried away...
snapperblue judytal
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bronwyn97278 snapperblue
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snapperblue bronwyn97278
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Like many parasites, hookworms have very specific needs at each stage of the life cycle. You cannot get intestinal hookworms by ingesting the eggs, for example- the larvae have to enter through the skin, molt to the next stage in the blood, emerge in the lungs, be coughed up and swallowed. That stage can develop into the adult form in the gut. The adults produce eggs that go out in the feces- if it is warm enough, they hatch into mobile larva that infect by burrowing into skin of another host.
So hookworm does not multiply in your body. Every adult in the gut comes from a larva that entered your skin. You can control the level of infestation by the number of larvae you expose yourself to.
You can also rid the body of the worms with standard helminthicides.
I am not totally nuts! I have a PhD in biology and have taken a course in parasitology. If you look up “autoimmune” and “hookworm,” you will find lots of articles on the topic.
judytal snapperblue
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judytal snapperblue
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EileenH judytal
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It is perfectly reasonable and good biological science and is being examined in research projects under carefully controlled conditions. You cannot compare that with children paddling in filthy water in Africa.
christine_fay EileenH
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EileenH christine_fay
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christine_fay snapperblue
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EileenH snapperblue
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In fact though - one of the ladies who said she'd he happy has been off pred for some considerable time now!
Snapperblue - you DO mostly get over it and off pred. I'm still on pred after 10 years of PMR but I am unusual in that sense and I feel very well on a dose of 4mg. Don't despair!
christine_fay snapperblue
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However none of the problems that Pred can cause would ever make me want to infest myself with this horrible parasite that causes so much misery in poor countries. I remember way back in the Sixties visiting my doctor who had seen his first case of Hookworm... He was mortified and worried because suddenly we in this country had been exposed to a parasite that is very hard to eradicate. He said 'Oh my God our sewer systems are going to be overun with this now and that means our soil will no longer be safe for kids'.. Hookworm transfers through the skin if you run about in bare feet. Many pets nowadays are infested, especially in poorer areas and many are being imported illegally completely ridden with them and other even worse parasites.
Do not be stupid! Until something is available to completely irradicate parasites from the system don't try mad theories. However clever they sound somone somewhere... probably a child, will suffer from this idea.
bronwyn97278 christine_fay
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noninoni snapperblue
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I have read a lot about helminth therapy in the past and I agree it certainly looks promising. I would be tempted too, but the initial side effects gave me pause. If you try it, I would love to know how it went. It makes a lot of sense. I thought there was some research going on in the UK and perhaps other places. But I haven't heard any followups on that research. It was a popular therapy 100 odd years ago as a way to lose weight!!
snapperblue noninoni
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I am not too worried about the side effects- they can be unpleasant, but, conveniently, they are treated with prednisone, which I will already be taking!
Hookworm therapy is so successful for remitting/relapsing MS that the company that sells the larvae in England will refund the fee if a client does not experience substantial improvement in a year. When have you ever been offered a money-back guarantee on a medical treatment!
So far, most of the evidence is anecdotal, just reports from people who tried it and experience dramatic improvement in their Crohn’s, Sjogren’s, psoriasis, allergies, or whatever. The research Eileen mentioned in the UK (Nottingham) is one of the first (on human subjects) comparing those receiving hookworm versus a placebo. A recent study in the US did this using pig whipworm on bowel diseases; the results are not published, but at least some of the subjects were really disappointed when the study ended and they could not longer get worms. (Pig whipworms can’t live more than a few weeks in humans, so they had to keep re-infecting themselves.)
A recent study found a peptide produced by the hookworm that inhibits the immune system, so it may be possible to get the effect without the actual worms. (Described in Science Daily August 2014.)
If PMR were the benign, easily-treated condition that many doctors believe it is, I would not do this. But the more I learn, the less I believe that! I think I am looking at long-term inflammation that has a lot more evil consequences than aches, stiffness, and even the killer fatigue.
snapperblue
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