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Horrible drug but sensitive to them all

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kelly8973
kelly8973

Ok so not only has this horrible drug given me constant nausea now after being tapered down to 7.5mg for just over a week I have the horrible feeling of doom slowly coming back last two mornings on waking which remains most of morning. I don't think I can cope with being back to the severe depression again. What I wanted to know is is there any anti depressants that anyone's on that don't have debilitating side effects . I tried many over the years and dosulepin was great but it pooped out after 7 yrs. Also are some people just prone to depression I fear that I will have to live with this the rest of my life and scared stiff. It always hits me after a stressful situation in my life first time after separation then months after my mums death. I have 3 teenage boys but feel very much on my own

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  • Ponyfeather
    Ponyfeather kelly8973

    Posted

    I have always been rather well off on paxil. It has been the only thing that has worked for me. I honestly hated it when the doctor wanted me to go on Mirtazapine, but he thought I should be off paxil for some strange reason. 
  • elainec33
    elainec33 kelly8973

    Posted

    Really feel sorry for you Kelly.  I don't know of any drugs that don't have side effects.  I am in the process of tapering to 7.5mg, started that last night and anxiously await my fate!    Looking back I think I have always suffered with mild depression, started at 15 when my horse had to be shot and then a psychiatrist said to me after my husband died and left me with a nearly four year old that I probably had post natal depression that was never picked up, not that I felt depressed but so tired could hardly be bothered to move around, everything was a big effort, bathing a baby etc. etc.   I too lost my mother 11 years ago this week and it was very traumatic how she died and I kept going for five years, bus and train nearly every day as she wasnt being looked after properly.  When that was over, I thought I could get on with my life which I did to a point but then there was my auntie who my cousin just dumped so I got landed with that.  Two years ago I fell and broke my wrist and to my absolute shock and horror was found to have severe osteoporosis in my spine and femur.  It was a shock because I had had such a healthy diet and was always on the go doing DIY being a single mum.  Then dad was put in a home and he died in January this year.  I was put on the mirtazapine because I suffered with 13 weeks of non stop nausea, racing heart and insomnia from last August and my life almost came to an end.  Every morning I wake up from a not very good sleep and it is a real effort to get out of bed and a feeling of dread about the future.  I try to have some sort of goal to achieve but having osteoporosis has changed my life and I even have to employ a cleaner.   I can imagine it must be a struggle for you having three teenage boys and feeling alone, believe me girls make you feel just as alone as the kids of today are so selfish.   Could there be an underlying physical problem, could you have picked up a bug.  Lots of things make people feel nauseous.  I never got to the bottom of mine although the psych team would tell me oh yes definitely anxiety and depression even though I personally think it is something else and the mirtazapine is masking something.  This has happened to two other ladies on the mirtazapine discussion, both have over active thyroids.   Im sorry I cant give you any answers I wish I could but to let you know there is always someone out there who cares.  If you think it's tapering to the 7.5mg which has caused the nausea would you consider the 15mg again assuming you were okay on that.  I probably have this to come but I will persevere and if it becomes too much will most likely go back to the 15mg but I am not happy taking it because of the long term side effects.
    • kelly8973
      kelly8973 elainec33

      Posted

      Thank you Elaine I have had the constant nausea for a few months now. I tapered down just this last week after having been on 15mg since November. My doctor suggested my stomach was maybe sensitive to the mirtazapine and to get off it and see if it was that and then try another ad. I've had stomach and bowel problems for years and maybe the mirt is aggravating them. But the problem is now I'm on the lower dose the depression has crept back but I don't want to keep messing with this drug going up and down with the dose. It's difficult when you're holing down a job and house and kids and have to deal with new Medication and side effects etc. I was off work five months till January and don't want that again
    • elainec33
      elainec33 kelly8973

      Posted

      I do know that IBS causes nausea.  I have always had a nervous stomach and make too much acid, and then when I was in Italy in 1969, some lovely hotel gave me unpasteurised milk and by the time I got back to the U.K. I was really ill, in hospital for 4 weeks as they didnt know what was wrong in those days.  Thankfully had an Italian consultant who knew all about brucellosis in that particular area, so had four really big injections of antibiotics a day for 10 days and that crucified my bowels.  Anything stressful and it immediately affects my stomach and I cant eat, some people console themselves with eating but I am the opposite.  When I was due to have an MRI last year I completely freaked out being claustrophobic as well but I popped a bromazepam and I was fine.  That i why I think the mirtazapine is masking something for me because a bromazepam only taken very rarely has always calmed me down, like a session at the dentist, a funeral etc. anything horrible, but when the racing heart and nausea started end last August, I popped one and it did absolutely nothng.

      I really hope you can get yourself sorted and they find out what is causing the nausea.  I was giving all the anti nausea tablets that are available and nothing helped in fact they made me feel worse.  Take care, Elaine

    • kelly8973
      kelly8973 elainec33

      Posted

      Aww elaine youve had it rough. My jbs had definatly become 20 time worse with mirt. But i think im having gallbladder problems as i struggle to digest anything like its just not going down and i have very little appetite and mirt to start helped massivly with that. I wnet from a 14 to size 8 about 10 yrs ago in space of a week and they discovered after an agonising 5 months that i had no b12 whatso ever in my body so i get injections every 12 weeks. But with the loss of my mum i went back down to 7 stone and the mirt helped get me back to just oveer 8 and helped my mood massivly. But now like youreslf i feel its masking something

  • betsy0603
    betsy0603 kelly8973

    Posted

    Kelly, it sounds like you have been on ADs for many years, and that is the problem.  Chronic use of ADs CAUSES treatment resistant depression!  There is an article on psychology today called Now Antidepressant-Induced Chronic Depression Has a Name:  Tardive Dysphoria.  I suspect that you have gone through tolerance which appears like the original condition but is caused by the drugs, but then you keep trying another one and another one to the point that your nervous system is so sensitized that it can't tolerate any of them.

    The fix for this is to taper very slowly off your current one, using the 10% method described in the link in this topic:  https://patient.info/forums/discuss/depression-resources-298570

    People find they begin to feel better and better as their system adapts to less and less of the drug they are in tolerance of.  Going too fast will cause withdrawal, which happens even though the drug doesn't help anymore.  This was my case after 12 years of Effexor (which had pooped out but I didn't realize it, just thought I was a depressive with a brain chemical imbalance, a myth by the way).  I feel better now on a subtherapeutic dose than I have felt in many years, and do NOT suffer from depression!

     

    • kelly8973
      kelly8973 betsy0603

      Posted

      Hi betsy thanks for replying. I was in dosulepin for years but only theu very lowest 25mg as it didnt cause side effects and helped my migraines. Unfortunately it ceased to work after my breakdown losing my mum and wasting away the mirtazapine was the best opition then. I do believe it did take me out of the very darkest place i called a living hell so for that im grateful but there comes a time you dont want to have to rely on drugs all the time and the side effects the leave you witb as yiu will be aware
  • tonia_2003
    tonia_2003 kelly8973

    Posted

    Do you have anxiety or just depression? I've never heard of the one you were on. Have you tried Prozac? Some get anxiety and nausea and then some get just sleepiness?
    • kelly8973
      kelly8973 tonia_2003

      Posted

      Hi tonia it was deoression brought on by total breakdiwn a few months after my mum died suddenly. They put me on this as id lost such a lot of weight and hadnt eaten for 3 weeks
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