How I cured my gastritis
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When I got diagnosed with mild gastritis (but no H. Pylori) and esophagitis, I looked all over the internet to find what to do. I did not find many accounts of people who have cured themselves successfully and how they did it. So I thought I would write my story once I am cured. Here it is. If you have cured yourself from gastritis too, please share your experience below as well.
Many people ask how long it takes to be cured. At first I started on dexilant for a month but I did not see any improvement. After a month I kept taking dexilant and I started the low acid diet in parallel. I got much better in 2-3 days. After two months on dexilant and one month on the diet, I felt completely good. Then I stopped the dexilant cold turkey and got a lot of pain and acidity back in my stomach. Now I regret I did not take the dexilant a little longer as my stomach was obviously not healed and not strong enough to go through the rebound effect of stopping dexilant. I regret also that I did not stop dexilant slowly taking it every other day for a week, then every three days for a week, .... I felt anxious about taking a medication that has so many side effects taken long term and I wanted to stop immediately, which was not reasonable.
Anyway there I was back at the beginning with stomach pain and acidity day and night. I felt pain related to the esophagitis as well which really scared me. I hesitated to take dexilant again but I decided to try to cure myself the natural way. Below I describe what I did. I got cured in approximately two months, getting slowly better week by week. After two months of natural cures I had no stomach pain anymore and no excess acid, I was able to sleep again, felt like a new healthy (and lighter -- I lost a few pounds) person. However after those two months, I felt that I needed to follow the diet another month for my stomach to get strong and be able to handle a less strict diet.
THE CURE
Books
Most of what I did is summarized in two books which I found very useful:
The first book is "Dropping acid: the reflux diet cookbook & cure" by Jamie Koufman. This is the book I based my diet on. The only disagreements I have with the author regard dairy products that I stopped taking as they make the stomach produce more acid (very clear for me), and the use of ginger, manukka honey and aloe vera which I find too irritating and/or acidic (and I don't feel that they help). Also she does not talk about salt which is known to be irritating for the stomach lining in excess, I felt an improvement when I lowered my intake in salt. I will explain the diet more in details below.
The other book is "Ulcer free! Nature's safe & effective remedy for ulcers" by G. Halpern. I know you may have gastritis and no ulcers but the two conditions are related and what cures one usually cures the other too. I used some of the natural supplements recommended in this book. In particular slippery elm (this one is actually not mentioned in the book) and DGL licorice for stomach pain (coat the interior of the stomach lining), Zinc-Carnosine (reduce inflammation and protects stomach lining - I felt a great improvement after starting to take it especially with acid production at night), and cabbage juice (finished my recovery with this one, after two days I had no stomach pain anymore at night). I describe the supplements more below.
What did not work for me
Mastic gum hurts my stomach. It is supposedly helpful against H. Pylori which I knew I did not have (I had been tested).
Prelief removes the acid in food and stomach very efficiently but causes constipation.
Tums works well for 45 minutes but then there is a rebound effect with the stomach producing more acid.
Manukka honey hurts my stomach (Too acidic, Ph level 4, but maybe also because of the tea tree essential oil in it). It is supposedly helpful against H. Pylori.
Aloe Vera is too acidic (around Ph level 4), and I don't feel it is doing anything positive.
Ginger is irritating and I don't feel it is doing anything positive.
Probiotics helps with digestion but not really for the stomach.
Zantac works very well at removing the acidity but makes me feel dizzy and incredibly tired.
PPI worked very well at removing the acidity and pain in my stomach while I was taking it while doing the diet, but I had a bad rebound effect when I stopped (one must stop slowly by taking it every other day for a while). Also having too low acid in the stomach because of PPI might cause problems in the long term (problems with Calcium and B12 absorption, bacterial infection more likely).
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matt85910 ines6375
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I am not happy with my current GI doctor. I am happy he did the endoscopy that showed that I have gastritis but beside that he told me to take dexilant for two months then stop. I was not cured after two months and he told me to just wait for a few more months and do nothing then he is going to reevaluate me. He gave me no information for the diet or nothing else. According to him I am just supposed to live with excess acid and pain and it is going to go away by itself. I could not take it anymore so I started to take dexilant again and I took an appointment with another GI doctor, I will see him in two days. I talked to other people with gastritis and their doctor was so much more helpful than mine. I should have gone see another doctor much earlier.
You don't seem very happy with your treatment of the care you got, that is why I thought you might benefit from a second opinion.
matt85910 ines6375
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vicky888 matt85910
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In australia, sucralfate isn't over the counter, but not sure in USA.
It's different from gaviscon. gaviscon is an antacid. Sucralfate works by forming a coating over the stomach lining & esophagus from the stomach acid.
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I am now a member of a private health company and get 24 hr access to a GP on the phone. I called and asked them about my issue and the timing yesterday and he was pretty adamant that there is no way with the timescales I have that it could be related to the duodenum. It is possible I do have inflammation there but it is most likely not that which is causing my oain after eating. He thinks it is the stomach and as they found no damage to the stomach on the Gastroscopy, the only thing it could be is damage caused by the actual gastroscopy process, either when putting it in, moving it about or removing it.
So that being said, the issue with my stomach may well be something more a kin to bruising or some other kind of damage like that. Basically as soon as the stomach starts processing the food, which happens as soon as if not before it actually reached it, then the pain starts and so it is not out of the question that it could still be Stomach inflammation as the symptoms do still fit that, but it could also be camera damage although I have had no blood or bruises show up anywhere.
Anyway, is you pain pretty instantanious or does it take a while to manifest after you have eaten?
matt85910 ines6375
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been taking the Supplements so maybe they have just been doing the same job? It was getting better as well before I had that soup too hot. I guess that will take several days again now to recover.
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emma666 matt85910
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My stomach is inflamed and also very sensitive. If I eat something too hot or something that I shouldnt, I get an almost immediate response.
I have just stopped my ppis because they were making my stomach sore.
It might take you a few days of eating the right food to calm it down after the endoscopy.
matt85910 emma666
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Ive been going through a strange process of getting better then getting worse over and over, its as if the stomach gets used to the pills. The last lot didnt do much at all and the. dox doubled them to 80mg it was then that I thought enough was enough and came off them. Ive been on the supplements for about 2 weeks. now and want to give them a good shot at the prize until I go back to the doctors as It was pills that caused the original issue that I ended up having an endoscopy for. Just about to add another supplement the plan, that being a probiotic, that being acidopholus.
emma666 matt85910
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I am just in the middle of making some cultured vegetables and water kefir because I have been reading that for stomach inflammation, it is really good to have tablet probiotics and probiotic food. I just hope my stomach lets me have them as it is so sensitive. Might be worth you reading up on them on the internet, they sound like they could really help.
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carmel83758 emma666
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Hope you're ok, and the dogs! Bit cooler today.
emma666 matt85910
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Also I know stress makes things a lot worse as you make a lot more acid.
I was doing really well with my stomach til we got burgled which was stress. I know its hard with this illness, but you have to try and not get stressed over it. I do though so I cant say too much. I cant take dgl or slippery elm but have never tried the zinc because I thought zinc was a stomach irritant.
carmel83758 emma666
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Am going out with that gent tonight. Hope you are ok.
emma666 carmel83758
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Hope all goes well tonight. x
carmel83758 emma666
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But the headaches nose and ears continued to be a problem. Then last year I got a terrible stomach suddenly after eating garlic - over a period of weeks it was like it festered and rumbled there and got worse until I was in agony with it. None of the doctors have listend to how it was because of the garlic. One said hernia one said this and that. All ignoring this. Had an endoscoopy and told ok there.
What happend though was that for the stomach I took pp2s - cimitidine - and this hekped my ears and nose and cleard up my headaches so I asked that I could carry on taking it because it helped so much with that. For a while I did not take it and my ears and nose and head got bad again and now I am trying to get rid of that problem while
emma666 carmel83758
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I had an endoscopy years ago and nothing showed. Have you ever been tested for allergies? You might be allergic to house dust/mites or even the dogs. Dont understand why the cimitidine would help your ears and nose though.
ines6375 matt85910
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From some foods like spices, very acidic foods, garlic, foods too hot, onion, I get an immediate reaction of pain. From other foods like fat, some fibers, dairy, I get a reaction later on. For the second type of foods, the way they irritate the stomach is milder or different than very irrating foods, this is why it took me longer to identify that they were not good for recovery.
I don't know much about the duodenum but I read that some foods might leak directly from the stomach to the duodenum so it is not impossible that you could get a reaction immediately after eating from a duodenitis too? Just wondering, I know nothing about duodenitis, my duodenum is fine.
About the PPI, I forgot if I asked you how you were taking it. I noticed that mine works only if taken 30 minutes before breakfast. It is strange that you got no reaction after stopping cold turkey but so suprising as not everybody get the rebound effect. I still think that PPI is the best way to go for treating gastritis if you can find one that works. I have been taking it for one month now and with the diet I am pain free today, I sleep well and feel mostly normal. I won't make the mistake of thinking I am cured though. I feel that my stomach is sore and not acting up because of the medication and the diet, and it will probably take longer to recover. But still I never got to that level of comfort with just natural supplements. I took the natural supplements for three months and the improvement was much much slower, also any disgression from the diet was much more unforgiving. It would take me one week to recover from a mistake on the natural supplements, while with the ppi, it takes me a day.
You said that you took the ppi for 4 months. 4 months is really not that long. One of the GI doctors I talked to told me that one must stay on PPI for at least 6 months to be cured. I also talked to somebody on the daily strength forum who got cured from gastritis in 6 months with PPI, for some it takes one year, some even more. All the people I talked to who tried to cured themselves with natural supplements only managed to get better slowly, none of the ones I have talked to got completely cured even though one of people I talked to said that they know some people who did. My feeling is that the stomach heals much more slowly with natural supplements because of the presence of acid that hurts the stomach constantly.
Emma, Kefir is one of the things that hurt my stomach. First it is too acidic: ph level between 4 and 5. Second dairy make my stomach produce more acid and it hurts if not immediately in the next hours. Be mindful how you feel after eating it. Kefir is a healthy food but I don't think it is good for gastritis. But we are all different. I hope it works well for you as it is delicious. I miss dairy the most with tomatoes.
I read a lot about the bacteria in our gut and for sure we are just starting to discover how they participate to our health. For example I read a study that show that the bacteria in the oesophagus was different for people who had a healthy oesophagus than for people who had an inflammation. Who comes first, the inflammation or the change of bacteria, they don't know but it is interesting. Anyway I have taken all sorts of probiotics supplements hoping they do something in the background, and maybe they do, but I have never felt that it helped with gastritis.
Just one word about bananas: when they are still a little bit green they are more irritating than when they are ripe. My favorite is cooked banana in the oatmeal for breakfast, delicious!
I have a different experience about the night. Somehow if I eat something I should not have during the day, my stomach will hurt at night and prevent me to sleep. Thankfully DGL licorice helps me to go back to sleep. Also when I was not taking the PPI, I would get more acid at night and a sore throat in the morning. Thankfully the PPI took care of that.
I am seeing a new GI doctor today, I hope he will help me get completely cured finally.
emma666 ines6375
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Just made a batch of cultured veg so might try them first.
Hope you get on well with the new GI doctor today.
ines6375 emma666
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Have you tried tempeh? It is fermented. I eat it regularly and I tolerate it very well.
I wonder what is the ph level of miso, this one I have not tried but it has lots of bacteria as well.
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Me too, if I eat something too spicy or too acidic, I will get immediate symptoms, but for fatty food, fiber it'll take few days to notice they are not good.
Just wondering though, when you said your stomach hurt, does it mean that you have pain in the stomach location or it's more like general pain e.g. reflux, acidic taste, sore throat etc?
Since I haven't done my endoscopy, I'm still wondering whether I have gastritis, hernia, etc
I don't think I have pain in the stomach location, mostly my symptoms are reflux related e.g. heartburn, chest pain, sour taste, sore throat, excess saliva....
It's really scary to read the story that people have to stay on ppi so long
ines6375 vicky888
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When I say my stomach hurt I mean that I have pain in my stomach. I feel the pain inside my stomach. I have not had a sour taste in my mouth for a long time now, at least 6 months. I had some acid in the last months before taking the PPI but it was mild and more or less constant, I noticed mostly at night and in the morning because of my sore throat.
Before I saw the doctor I did not identify stomach pain very well. When the pain is more or less constant sometimes it is difficult to be aware of it as one forgets what normal is. It is like a constant sound bothering you that you don't hear anymore after a while. I used to have insomnia for many years, and only this year I discovered that it was because of stomach pain. Also so many things can go wrong in the digestive system. Before my endoscopy, I wondered at some point if I had a liver disease or diabetes. But I remember the doctor touching my stomach and it hurt. I found it a great relief to get all possible tests done and know exactly what I have.
I used to be very scared of PPI, now I am glad they exist to help us be cured faster.