How I cured my vulvodynia
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I see so many posts on here about constant or provoked vulva pain that I thought it might be useful if I explained vulvodynia and how I cured mine. Vulvodynia literally means vulvar pain and is a condition of the nerves in that area. The nerves have become hyperactive and hypersensitive due to trauma which can be chemical or physical in source or due to infection. I think mine was due to persistent thrush infection and the many remedies I tried to cure it, including home remedies such as bathing in a bath with some cider vinegar in - that made my soreness much worse (chemical trauma). Vulvodynia can cause itching, sore or burning sensation and this can be continuous or provoked (only happens when the area is touched). The nerves are so hypersensitive they register touch as pain and the usual way to diagnose it is to touch around the vulvar area with a cotton bud and where the touch registers as pain then that is the affected area. It can involve the whole of the vulvar area or can be in a horseshoe shape toward the posterior (which may also involve the perineum) or the anterior or can be offset to one side. The pain is a form of chronic neuropathic pain because it stems from nerve damage as opposed to nociceptive pain which is caused by tissue damage. Neuropathic pain can be very hard to get rid of. It took me 1.5 years of determination and the occasional disappointing set back to cure my vulvodynia. Probably more like 2 years to get back to normal.
Ok, ready for a long story about how I cured my vulvodynia:-
First I saw a gynaecologist. He took a biopsy of the painful area and confirmed no diseases or cancer. He put me on amitriptyline and steroid cream. These slowly worked for a while and made me comfortable enough to have a long overdue smear test. I had the smear test and the pain came back full force - back to square 1. By that time I had used the steroid cream for as long as is recommended and had stopped it (long term use not recommended). However, desperate to get rid of the pain I tired it again, but this time the cream stung me and made the pain worse. The gynaecologist gave me lynocaine cream to numb the area, but that stung me and made me worse. Nothing was working and in the end the gynae said that he could not cure me he could just help me managed the pain. Well, I wasn't going to put up with that for the rest of my life. So I did some investigating to find someone else who could help me and found a dermatologist consultant in Oxford who specialised in vulva pain. I also found some medication on the internet, made in Italy which is a gel is specifically for treating vulvodynia. It calms down the overactive and hypersensitive nerves. Saginil gel - you can order it direct from the suppliers, epitech, on their website. You can do this because it is not classed as a medicine because it is made of natural plant-based ingredients. It is expensive, as is the post from Italy, but I am so pleased I bought it because it was the only thing my skin could tolerate there and it did make a difference - it reduced the pain so that it was bearable and I could function better with daily life.
i saw the dermatologist and she told me all the things that she had found worked to get rid of the pain, but nerve pain is difficult to get rid of so she suggested I try them all and stick at it. i was surprised because, appears from upping the amitriptyline dose to 50-70mg a day (I was on 20), the rest of the things were what you would class alternative, or natural, cures. They were: western acupuncture, physiotherapy, chiropraction and manual desensitisation. Now, different things work for different people because there are different causes for the vulvodynia: infection, physical or chemical trauma, hormones, trapped nerve in back. I knew mine was caused by repeated and persistent thrush and the various treatments I tried to get rid of it (including cider vinegar - ouch! No!). So I didn't see a chiropractor because is didn't thing it stemmed from a pelvic nerve problem, however, from what you describe, yours might. I did do yoga exercises that free trapped pelvic nerves. I bought a book on pelvic floor exercises and did those, rather than see a physio. I did the manual desensitisation - this is where you stroke yourself very lightly in the painful area, using non-irritating lubricant (I used oil based lube by yes, or coconut oil), just once the first day. Then each day you gradually build up the strokes in number and pressure. The idea is that you are retraining the nerves to register touch as touch and not pain. So, massage yourself there just enough so as not to cause lasting pain afterwards. I built it up until I could do 100 strokes of fairly good pressure, then I moved into inserting a finger, then two, then the tip of my husband's penis and then gradually out him in a little further each time, until I could get most of him in, then starting moving with him in, again gradually building it up each time. I also found a GP that also ran a Western acupuncture clinic. Western means that they leave the meddles in and pass electricity through them. That was what really worked for me - each time I went I just got better and better. Apparently the amitriptyline and the acupuncture work well together to dampen down those hyperactive and oversensitive nerves. I upped the amitriptyline to 50mg as day, very gradually by 5mg every 1 or 2 weeks because it caused side effects so my body needed to adapt to each increase.
Finally, there are the changes to how you live. No tight clothes, no sex (until you are ready), no exercise (I gradually built that up too but walking just a short distance and gradually increasing it - never do an amount that cause she lasting pain). Go knicker free if you can - I work mainly from home so was able to go around with no knickers on and baggy jogging bottoms or a skirt. Sitting also caused problems (I work at a computer) so I got a ring shoved cushion form woman to use after they have given birth and sat in that so that there was no pressure at all on the sensitive area (dame for driving the car). Coconut oil was soothing (raw, cold pressed, organic coconut oil) so I applied that externally and internally with a clean finger after every time I went to the loo (I carried a little pot in my hand bag so I could apply it while out and about with an organic, pesticide and bleach free cotton pad). No scented products on that area, in fact I didn't wash there at all, I used coconut oil to clean the area and when showered I used organic, nasty chemical free and scent free body wash and shampoo and conditioner (because stuff runs down). I also washed my clothes in scent free, kind-to-skin laundry detergent and conditioner. Toilet paper has bleach in it, so I got some tissues that were bleach free and used those to wipe after doing a wee.
The key is to be persistent, try everything, gradually build things up, stick with what works, be determined, don't give in. The consultant dermatologist was very impressed with me because I was so determined and didn't give into urges. She said she had many women who just got fed up with how long it was taking and just went for a long walk / bike ride / horse ride or had sex and put themselves back at square one again. It does take a long time - it took me 1.5 years of all that stuff in my message above to get to being pain free. Even now, 5 years later, I still apply coconut oil after every time I go to the toilet, use tonnes of oil based lube during intercourse, go around the house wear no knickers. I don't want it to come back. I am also still on 50mg amitriptyline a day. At first I was afraid to come off it because the consultant dermatologist told me, you may be pain free, but if you come off it too soon, the pain can come back. So it is best to wait a few months after being pain free. Then menopause set in and I got hot flushes and my GP told me to stay on the amitriptyline because it helps with hot flushes. My body has adapted to it now. I hope to reduce the dose sometime (gradually, by 5mg very 2 weeks, just like I built it up). I still do pelvic floor exercises - the book I got was called 7 steps to pain-free sex by Claudia Amherd. It is mainly about vaginismus, but the exercises apply to vulvodynia too - just don't do them sitting on a juggling ball (ouch) do them standing up first, then lying down, as it advises in the book. Gradually build up the exercises, doing more and more each time. Again, don't do so much that it causes an increase in pain or lasting pain - cut back if that happens.
Also, you need to get some organic, chemical free sanitary towels for when you have your period (no tampons).
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eva43256 Suki_girl
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RubySkye rubina87
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Have you been diagnosed? If so, what is your treatment plan and what have you tried? What oral medication or topicals have you tried?
I have tried soooo many things, but currently I am taking Topiramate, generic for Topomax, twice a day; I apply Emuaid Max every day but that is for the LS, shower and rinse off my lady parts after walking my dog; only wash my bits with water; take Hydrocodone/Acetaminophen 5/325 as needed for pain which is every 2 hours if sitting at 90 degrees; I lay back in a car as far as possible if I’m a passenger so the pressure is more on my tailbone and low back; lay down to watch tv at home; only blot after urinating. I ordered some Saginil Gel per this post and will apply that as soon as it arrives.
Please let us know you are alright. Again, you are not alone. You found the right place to get support and information. You are stronger than you know! ❤️
plaidandgl18264 rubina87
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I had a similar situation, was on 600 mg of neuroton/gabipenten, was able to decrease it with time, had pain for a year, pain when urinating, sitting and was depressed. Also had endometriosis/adenomyosis of the uterus and left ovary, had everything removed in Dec 2017 which i believe was part of it, the neurton was a life savor for me. Do you have access to the gabapentin? I had to see the obgyn for it. There is hope.
plaidandgl18264 Suki_girl
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I had a similar situation, was on 600 mg of neuroton/gabipenten, was able to decrease it with time, had pain for a year, pain when urinating, sitting and was depressed. Also had endometriosis/adenomyosis of the uterus and left ovary, had everything removed in Dec 2017 which i believe was part of it, the neurton was a life savor for me. Do you have access to the gabapentin? I had to see the obgyn for it. There is hope.
plaidandgl18264 Suki_girl
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Apologies Sukigirl, realized i accidently responded to you ehen wanting to respond to another post, which i was able to do. Share info!😁
katie26785 Suki_girl
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I am just wondering if you have come off the amitriptyline yet and if so has your pain still stayed away. I’m still in pain but have been doing exercises from the pelvic health physio and last month all of a sudden I had no pain at all for 18 days, this has been the longest in the 5 years I’ve had vulvodynia but then it returned and I have not done anything out of the ordinary for this to return it is so frustrating. I am considering going back on the amitriptyline but I feel this is just going to cover up the problem and not fix it although saying that, I have heard that it can break the cycle of pain and when you come of the meds the pain may never return again. Currently I am using lidocaine when needed as I was told that this can also retrain the nerves to calm down after being irritated for so long...I feel the longer it’s going on for the harder it’s going to be to treat and get myself in such a state over it x
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It is such an awful condition to have isn’t it. I feel like I often isolate myself from everyone and everything it’s not good and I don’t want it putting a strain on my relationship either I’m glad you are better emotionally and physically getting there. Thank you for the advice, I was taking amitriptyline a few years ago but I didn’t really give it a good chance but I’m determined to get rid of this thing now once and for all. How long was you on the 40mg for before you were able to reduce it? X
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Wow you have done really well in such little time too. I have taken amitriptyline before but I didn’t go over 30mg and then gave up, maybe I need to give it a good go as although I’m having physio, I’m not sure if it is helping or not as I have good days and bad this is what is stopping me from starting the amitriptyline again as I will not know if the physio is working or not. Also my gynaecologist has said that it has been proven that lidocaine can get rid of the nerve pain if I use it every day for 4-6 weeks. All of this is so mentally and physically exhausting though and I’m not sure how much longer I will last before giving in to the amitriptyline. I am also having an MRI Scan on Tuesday due to the fact that I have hip, lower back and sciatica pain so will see what comes out of that. Do you know what started your pain?
Katie x
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I took gabapentin last year but felt it didn’t really do a lot even though I kept increasing it my pain comes and goes so it didn’t really give me any relief. Good luck with your physio let me know how you get on, I’m interesting to here other peoples experiences, it started to work really well for me but this month I have had a bit of a relapse but my physio says this is not unusual as it can take a whole year to relax those muscles that have been tense for so long. Fingers crossed for us that this will be the treatment that will help us x
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linda41401 katie26785
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why do you feel you have to give in to Amitriptyline? I found it’s really helped me lots. My gynaecologist told me that in her opinion it’s the only thing that will really get rid of Vulvadynia and the majority of her ladies on Nortryptyline have recovered well enough to enjoy life again. If it works try it. You mentioned you didn’t go over 30mg last time you tried Amitriptyline but I found that 30mg wasn’t enough to alleviate my pain, but when I got to 40 it was absolutely wonderful, after a week on 40 it completely disappeared. When I decided to reduce to 30, it also felt good, but once down to 20 the first time it was no good, so I upped it again to 30 for a while longer, now 20 is as good as it was on 40 so it’s obviously working. I know the side effects aren’t brilliant but they are bearable. I take a mild laxative now and again which works well, the weight gain I manage by eating less, but my appetite I think has been suppressed by the Nortryptyline as I never seem to feel really hungry since taking it. It doesn’t matter if you don’t know whether it’s the Amitriptyline or physio working, so long as it stops the pain, I would try the lot. Once the pain has gone you can then slowly decrease both things. Good bonus from Nortryptyline is you get a brilliant nights sleep, as soon as I hit the pillow I am out all night, wonderful. It does make you feel a bit zonked out when you first take it, same as any drug does, but your body adapts to it over time. I would seriously try the Amitriptyline or Nortryptyline again, but increase up to as much as you need to feel pain free.
Suki_girl linda41401
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Like Linda, I’m loving the great nights sleep it gives me!
katie26785 linda41401
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I think the main reason I’m against amitriptyline is because I want to have a baby next year but thinking about it I’m not going to be able to do it if in pain and if I start taking the tablets now then hopefully by time I want a baby and come off the tablets the pain might of gone. This pain has caused me so much anxiety I spend the whole time focusing on it so it is affecting my daily life. I think I’m going to take yours and sukis advice and just go on the amitriptyline and stick with the physio and see what happens. Thank you for both your advice. Please let me know how you feel when you eventually come off the amitriptyline. Thank you x
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rachel1million Suki_girl
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I definitely learned that the hard way! Even if it was unintentionally 😩
katie26785 linda41401
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I’ve just started the amitriptyline feeling a bit groggy in the morning though. How long does it take for the side effects to ease and will the same happen every time I increase?
Katie
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Katie x
rachel1million katie26785
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Hope the side effects to the meds are settling for you Katy.
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katie26785 rachel1million
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Thank you, the side effects are not too bad as I take it around 7.30pm and wake up feeling fine. It’s funny you say about the awareness because I’ve only found one specialist that knows about this condition other than women’s health physios. I’ve managed 8 months without pain relief as before I took gabapentin. I’m so tired of being in pain now and as it’s affecting my daily life I have no other choice but to try the amitriptyline and now the specialist has told me that 10mg is safe during pregnancy it means that if I can put up with this dose, I will finally be able to try and conceive however I’m going to wait a good 6 months before I consider this.
Katie x