How I cured my vulvodynia
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I see so many posts on here about constant or provoked vulva pain that I thought it might be useful if I explained vulvodynia and how I cured mine. Vulvodynia literally means vulvar pain and is a condition of the nerves in that area. The nerves have become hyperactive and hypersensitive due to trauma which can be chemical or physical in source or due to infection. I think mine was due to persistent thrush infection and the many remedies I tried to cure it, including home remedies such as bathing in a bath with some cider vinegar in - that made my soreness much worse (chemical trauma). Vulvodynia can cause itching, sore or burning sensation and this can be continuous or provoked (only happens when the area is touched). The nerves are so hypersensitive they register touch as pain and the usual way to diagnose it is to touch around the vulvar area with a cotton bud and where the touch registers as pain then that is the affected area. It can involve the whole of the vulvar area or can be in a horseshoe shape toward the posterior (which may also involve the perineum) or the anterior or can be offset to one side. The pain is a form of chronic neuropathic pain because it stems from nerve damage as opposed to nociceptive pain which is caused by tissue damage. Neuropathic pain can be very hard to get rid of. It took me 1.5 years of determination and the occasional disappointing set back to cure my vulvodynia. Probably more like 2 years to get back to normal.
Ok, ready for a long story about how I cured my vulvodynia:-
First I saw a gynaecologist. He took a biopsy of the painful area and confirmed no diseases or cancer. He put me on amitriptyline and steroid cream. These slowly worked for a while and made me comfortable enough to have a long overdue smear test. I had the smear test and the pain came back full force - back to square 1. By that time I had used the steroid cream for as long as is recommended and had stopped it (long term use not recommended). However, desperate to get rid of the pain I tired it again, but this time the cream stung me and made the pain worse. The gynaecologist gave me lynocaine cream to numb the area, but that stung me and made me worse. Nothing was working and in the end the gynae said that he could not cure me he could just help me managed the pain. Well, I wasn't going to put up with that for the rest of my life. So I did some investigating to find someone else who could help me and found a dermatologist consultant in Oxford who specialised in vulva pain. I also found some medication on the internet, made in Italy which is a gel is specifically for treating vulvodynia. It calms down the overactive and hypersensitive nerves. Saginil gel - you can order it direct from the suppliers, epitech, on their website. You can do this because it is not classed as a medicine because it is made of natural plant-based ingredients. It is expensive, as is the post from Italy, but I am so pleased I bought it because it was the only thing my skin could tolerate there and it did make a difference - it reduced the pain so that it was bearable and I could function better with daily life.
i saw the dermatologist and she told me all the things that she had found worked to get rid of the pain, but nerve pain is difficult to get rid of so she suggested I try them all and stick at it. i was surprised because, appears from upping the amitriptyline dose to 50-70mg a day (I was on 20), the rest of the things were what you would class alternative, or natural, cures. They were: western acupuncture, physiotherapy, chiropraction and manual desensitisation. Now, different things work for different people because there are different causes for the vulvodynia: infection, physical or chemical trauma, hormones, trapped nerve in back. I knew mine was caused by repeated and persistent thrush and the various treatments I tried to get rid of it (including cider vinegar - ouch! No!). So I didn't see a chiropractor because is didn't thing it stemmed from a pelvic nerve problem, however, from what you describe, yours might. I did do yoga exercises that free trapped pelvic nerves. I bought a book on pelvic floor exercises and did those, rather than see a physio. I did the manual desensitisation - this is where you stroke yourself very lightly in the painful area, using non-irritating lubricant (I used oil based lube by yes, or coconut oil), just once the first day. Then each day you gradually build up the strokes in number and pressure. The idea is that you are retraining the nerves to register touch as touch and not pain. So, massage yourself there just enough so as not to cause lasting pain afterwards. I built it up until I could do 100 strokes of fairly good pressure, then I moved into inserting a finger, then two, then the tip of my husband's penis and then gradually out him in a little further each time, until I could get most of him in, then starting moving with him in, again gradually building it up each time. I also found a GP that also ran a Western acupuncture clinic. Western means that they leave the meddles in and pass electricity through them. That was what really worked for me - each time I went I just got better and better. Apparently the amitriptyline and the acupuncture work well together to dampen down those hyperactive and oversensitive nerves. I upped the amitriptyline to 50mg as day, very gradually by 5mg every 1 or 2 weeks because it caused side effects so my body needed to adapt to each increase.
Finally, there are the changes to how you live. No tight clothes, no sex (until you are ready), no exercise (I gradually built that up too but walking just a short distance and gradually increasing it - never do an amount that cause she lasting pain). Go knicker free if you can - I work mainly from home so was able to go around with no knickers on and baggy jogging bottoms or a skirt. Sitting also caused problems (I work at a computer) so I got a ring shoved cushion form woman to use after they have given birth and sat in that so that there was no pressure at all on the sensitive area (dame for driving the car). Coconut oil was soothing (raw, cold pressed, organic coconut oil) so I applied that externally and internally with a clean finger after every time I went to the loo (I carried a little pot in my hand bag so I could apply it while out and about with an organic, pesticide and bleach free cotton pad). No scented products on that area, in fact I didn't wash there at all, I used coconut oil to clean the area and when showered I used organic, nasty chemical free and scent free body wash and shampoo and conditioner (because stuff runs down). I also washed my clothes in scent free, kind-to-skin laundry detergent and conditioner. Toilet paper has bleach in it, so I got some tissues that were bleach free and used those to wipe after doing a wee.
The key is to be persistent, try everything, gradually build things up, stick with what works, be determined, don't give in. The consultant dermatologist was very impressed with me because I was so determined and didn't give into urges. She said she had many women who just got fed up with how long it was taking and just went for a long walk / bike ride / horse ride or had sex and put themselves back at square one again. It does take a long time - it took me 1.5 years of all that stuff in my message above to get to being pain free. Even now, 5 years later, I still apply coconut oil after every time I go to the toilet, use tonnes of oil based lube during intercourse, go around the house wear no knickers. I don't want it to come back. I am also still on 50mg amitriptyline a day. At first I was afraid to come off it because the consultant dermatologist told me, you may be pain free, but if you come off it too soon, the pain can come back. So it is best to wait a few months after being pain free. Then menopause set in and I got hot flushes and my GP told me to stay on the amitriptyline because it helps with hot flushes. My body has adapted to it now. I hope to reduce the dose sometime (gradually, by 5mg very 2 weeks, just like I built it up). I still do pelvic floor exercises - the book I got was called 7 steps to pain-free sex by Claudia Amherd. It is mainly about vaginismus, but the exercises apply to vulvodynia too - just don't do them sitting on a juggling ball (ouch) do them standing up first, then lying down, as it advises in the book. Gradually build up the exercises, doing more and more each time. Again, don't do so much that it causes an increase in pain or lasting pain - cut back if that happens.
Also, you need to get some organic, chemical free sanitary towels for when you have your period (no tampons).
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hilde33174 Suki_girl
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I feel like I cant do this anymore. It huts so much even to walk. I lost my boyfriend and I just can not take anymore. I need it to get better now, but it just takes forever. I already been trough this and I'm so tired.
Suki_girl hilde33174
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I know how you feel, but you have to keep going. It is possible to get better. Remind me what you are doing?
rachel1million hilde33174
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So sorry to read this Hilde, have you got people you can reach out to for support? Or would you consider calling a helpline if not? Well done for reaching out on here, its a difficult battle we are all facing in our own different ways... so sorry it is feeling overwhelming right now xx
marina91325 hilde33174
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hi Hilde, sorry to hear that all is the same with you. are you on the same dose of meds? Have you increased the dose? what your doctor says? Have you checked your vulva's skin? is it normal? not red? do you wash your hair separately?
marina91325 hilde33174
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Do you drink? i have noticed that in my case the pain was stronger when i was drinking. But i do not usually drink so not drinking was not a big problem for me.
Do you take your meds at the night time? you was on 30 mg as i remember...its not enough i think, you need a higher dose.
please take care, hope you will feel better x
hilde33174 Suki_girl
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I tried to reply so many times, but it always get deleted. So I decided to private message.
Have any of you tried botox injections in that area? I read something about it and I wonder if that could help me get through my days. I know it will wear out after a while, but I thought it would be easier doing the pelvic floor exercises and massaging.
Tonight I made it worse. I made a movement that I should not have done. It happened when I was half asleep. I am terrified of moving now because I'm scarred that the mild shooting is going to get worse.
I don't understand how I'm going to get better if I keep getting worse just by sleeping.
susan05495 hilde33174
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not tried botox but i am on 150mg of ami . Could you increase your meds?
so sorry to hear you are suffering so much and lost your boyfriend . Try to stay strong . Have you tried lidocaine ?
hilde33174 Suki_girl
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I'm doing acupuncture once/twice a week.
Currently on fifty mg ami.
I just started recently washing my lady parts with raw organic coconut oil.
I wash my hair and body separated and I do not use soap on my body.
Not doing the low oxalate diet because I'm positive I got it from antibiotics.
I use lidocaine 5% cream.
Wondering if I should see a physiotherapist since it made it worse in four days and then it got back to how it was before she massaged me. So I'm terrified that it will get even worse now since I'm not as good as I was back then.
I went to see a new acupuncturist and she said I needed laser as well. So hopefully it will help, but I'm not really sure because my stomach hurts a lot now. I don't know if that is a good thing or not. She think it has something to do with my stomach so she put needles there with the laser.
I will not give up because giving in to this means I'm never gonna get my life back. It's just hard right now.
susan05495 hilde33174
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Have you thought about increasing your ami dosage ? 50 mg is very low .
hilde33174 Suki_girl
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I do acupuncture once/twice a week.
Currently on fifty mg ami.
I wash my hair and body separated with no soap on my body.
I use 5% lidocaine cream and organic coconut oil on the whole area that is hurt.
I do the yoga poses that was recommended on this forum.
I don't know what more I can do. However I won't give up. I got laser today over my stomach that had needles in it. I don't see a huge different other than that my stomach now hurts.
hilde33174 Suki_girl
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I forgot to say that I'm not drinking. All I do almost every single day is laying in bed. If I'm not in my bed it's because I'm seeing my doctor or acupuncturist. Not much of a life right now.
hilde33174 Suki_girl
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I can ask my doctor tomorrow, but I feel really uncomfortable asking. I had to beg him to increase my ami dose from 40 to 50.
marina91325 hilde33174
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the same was with me, i had a private prescription for ami with a higher dose, but my GP refused to give it to me. i had to email to my private doctor and asked for the prescription again. Can you that? if not, i have seen this meds online, you can buy them, but it is a little bit more expensive, its not the best option, but its an option.
Do not feel uncomfortable for asking, its your health. i remember i even wrote a complaint letter to my surgery. It was all sorted afterwards.
susan05495 marina91325
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what reason are GP refusing to give a higher dose . Surely if it is recognised that ami helps with the pain its your righr to get it
marina91325 susan05495
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exactly! it was because my gynecologist gave me the higher dose and not them, they asked for a confirmation letter from him, he did, but his grammar was wrong, "said that he gave me ...mg", instead of saying that he "wants them to give me" , something like that.. that was very stupid from them.
susan05495 hilde33174
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my life changed completley once i got onto higher dose of ami . i was so depressed from the pain i couldnt get out of bed and i thought life wasnt worth living . My gaenocolgist put me om 150 mg as it works as am antidepressant as well as nerve pain . i took the time needed to gradually increase the dose and i would never come off it . ive had a wobble over last 3 months but with tweaking of my HrT am back on track . if you take contraceptive pill and its a progesterone combi you may need to change to a different pill .
hilde33174 marina91325
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Okay thanks, I will ask him tomorrow. I did not know it was so important since I did not feel it helping that much. I feel like it took the pain away the two first days every time I increase the dose, but then it did nothing for me. Does that happened to anyone else? Do my body just get used to the dose after two days? Do you think it will stay pain free after I increase my dose or will the same happen anyway? I don't understand that and I'm a little bit scared that my body just gets used to it and I won't get a break from the pain. The same thing happened when I used Neurontin.
marina91325 hilde33174
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i think your dose is just not high enough. do not feel uncomfortable for asking. x
susan05495
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i agree the dose is not high enough . If you explain how your feeling and that you have lost your boyfriend and your feeling really low and that you feel the anti depressant side if ami will help you . Hopefully GP will agree . if not a psychiatrist would prescribe for depression as you are already on it .
if you get it you will need to bear with the side affects until your body settles down .
you will need to take at night as it will make you really tired . i welcomed this as i was in so much pain i couldnt sleep .
you havent said if you are on contraceptive pill ?
hilde33174 susan05495
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Yes, I'm on the pill because we think I have endometriosis. I get really sick if I don't take the pill, but I have thought of maybe getting etonogestrel contraceptive implant. I asked my doctor and he gave me lyrica. He said I should either take the lyrica or neurontin together with ami.
susan05495 hilde33174
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ami is the first line drug of choice for V . i woukd ask to come off the lyrica and increase ami
dont even consider the implant its all progesterone . you need more oestrogen as this deficiency can also be a cause of V
Can you get a gynie to prescribe oestrogen cream ? to increase the levels ?
hilde33174 susan05495
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So it is a good thing that I'm on the pill? Some doctors I have been to wanted me to get off the pill. I have estrogen cream and used it. Felt like it helped a little bit in the beginning. Then a gynecologist said I did not need to use it since I was young and had enough estrogen. I used the cream because they found out when I was in narcosis that my mucosa was irritated/dry.
Okay, but then I need to ask someone that knows something about vulvodynia. That could take some months.. I'm on the waiting list and it takes forever. They said maybe in nov/dec. Things takes long time here and especially now that even the specialists don't understand what they should do.
hilde33174
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I was wondering if I could get the name of the doctors/gynie that helped one of you with vulvodynia. Someone who really knows how to solve this problem. Maybe my doctor could contact that person so he could understand better what to do.
susan05495 hilde33174
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has anyone done a blood test to check how much Oestrogen you have?
the first time i had V was when i was on the pill when i was 18 . i came off the pill and it went away. i then had a reoccurence 10 years later from stress of getting married . it went away on my honeymoon .
my next occurence was 20 years later over stress of my husband leaving me . thats when i started ami and saw DR SALLIE NEILL i dont know if she still practices but she was the leading consultant in uk for vulvadynia . She was also a dermatologist she put me on ami and lidocaine and it went away . 10 years on i had an occurence and its was all down to my hormones . i had Oestrogen gel and its mostly managed now . lidocaine helps for me. The consultant i mostly recently saw was Miss ANNE DEANS .
susan05495 hilde33174
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i would come off the pill if you can tolerate the endrimetriosis . IF your mucosa is dry you need to see a dermotolagist as they may be able to help .
i really feel for you i can remember being so depressed . ami not only helped my V but helped massively with depression .
which country do you live in ?
Suki_girl hilde33174
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There was one lady whose vulvodynia went away when she came off the pill. Vulvodynia is definitely affected by hormones, but it is not certain how. Mine, for example, started when I began pre menopause
em04260 susan05495
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hi i have been reading forum and i need advice please,
countless antibiotics and still in pain doctors started me on ant 20mg creams dont work and i need help please xx