How I cured my vulvodynia
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I see so many posts on here about constant or provoked vulva pain that I thought it might be useful if I explained vulvodynia and how I cured mine. Vulvodynia literally means vulvar pain and is a condition of the nerves in that area. The nerves have become hyperactive and hypersensitive due to trauma which can be chemical or physical in source or due to infection. I think mine was due to persistent thrush infection and the many remedies I tried to cure it, including home remedies such as bathing in a bath with some cider vinegar in - that made my soreness much worse (chemical trauma). Vulvodynia can cause itching, sore or burning sensation and this can be continuous or provoked (only happens when the area is touched). The nerves are so hypersensitive they register touch as pain and the usual way to diagnose it is to touch around the vulvar area with a cotton bud and where the touch registers as pain then that is the affected area. It can involve the whole of the vulvar area or can be in a horseshoe shape toward the posterior (which may also involve the perineum) or the anterior or can be offset to one side. The pain is a form of chronic neuropathic pain because it stems from nerve damage as opposed to nociceptive pain which is caused by tissue damage. Neuropathic pain can be very hard to get rid of. It took me 1.5 years of determination and the occasional disappointing set back to cure my vulvodynia. Probably more like 2 years to get back to normal.
Ok, ready for a long story about how I cured my vulvodynia:-
First I saw a gynaecologist. He took a biopsy of the painful area and confirmed no diseases or cancer. He put me on amitriptyline and steroid cream. These slowly worked for a while and made me comfortable enough to have a long overdue smear test. I had the smear test and the pain came back full force - back to square 1. By that time I had used the steroid cream for as long as is recommended and had stopped it (long term use not recommended). However, desperate to get rid of the pain I tired it again, but this time the cream stung me and made the pain worse. The gynaecologist gave me lynocaine cream to numb the area, but that stung me and made me worse. Nothing was working and in the end the gynae said that he could not cure me he could just help me managed the pain. Well, I wasn't going to put up with that for the rest of my life. So I did some investigating to find someone else who could help me and found a dermatologist consultant in Oxford who specialised in vulva pain. I also found some medication on the internet, made in Italy which is a gel is specifically for treating vulvodynia. It calms down the overactive and hypersensitive nerves. Saginil gel - you can order it direct from the suppliers, epitech, on their website. You can do this because it is not classed as a medicine because it is made of natural plant-based ingredients. It is expensive, as is the post from Italy, but I am so pleased I bought it because it was the only thing my skin could tolerate there and it did make a difference - it reduced the pain so that it was bearable and I could function better with daily life.
i saw the dermatologist and she told me all the things that she had found worked to get rid of the pain, but nerve pain is difficult to get rid of so she suggested I try them all and stick at it. i was surprised because, appears from upping the amitriptyline dose to 50-70mg a day (I was on 20), the rest of the things were what you would class alternative, or natural, cures. They were: western acupuncture, physiotherapy, chiropraction and manual desensitisation. Now, different things work for different people because there are different causes for the vulvodynia: infection, physical or chemical trauma, hormones, trapped nerve in back. I knew mine was caused by repeated and persistent thrush and the various treatments I tried to get rid of it (including cider vinegar - ouch! No!). So I didn't see a chiropractor because is didn't thing it stemmed from a pelvic nerve problem, however, from what you describe, yours might. I did do yoga exercises that free trapped pelvic nerves. I bought a book on pelvic floor exercises and did those, rather than see a physio. I did the manual desensitisation - this is where you stroke yourself very lightly in the painful area, using non-irritating lubricant (I used oil based lube by yes, or coconut oil), just once the first day. Then each day you gradually build up the strokes in number and pressure. The idea is that you are retraining the nerves to register touch as touch and not pain. So, massage yourself there just enough so as not to cause lasting pain afterwards. I built it up until I could do 100 strokes of fairly good pressure, then I moved into inserting a finger, then two, then the tip of my husband's penis and then gradually out him in a little further each time, until I could get most of him in, then starting moving with him in, again gradually building it up each time. I also found a GP that also ran a Western acupuncture clinic. Western means that they leave the meddles in and pass electricity through them. That was what really worked for me - each time I went I just got better and better. Apparently the amitriptyline and the acupuncture work well together to dampen down those hyperactive and oversensitive nerves. I upped the amitriptyline to 50mg as day, very gradually by 5mg every 1 or 2 weeks because it caused side effects so my body needed to adapt to each increase.
Finally, there are the changes to how you live. No tight clothes, no sex (until you are ready), no exercise (I gradually built that up too but walking just a short distance and gradually increasing it - never do an amount that cause she lasting pain). Go knicker free if you can - I work mainly from home so was able to go around with no knickers on and baggy jogging bottoms or a skirt. Sitting also caused problems (I work at a computer) so I got a ring shoved cushion form woman to use after they have given birth and sat in that so that there was no pressure at all on the sensitive area (dame for driving the car). Coconut oil was soothing (raw, cold pressed, organic coconut oil) so I applied that externally and internally with a clean finger after every time I went to the loo (I carried a little pot in my hand bag so I could apply it while out and about with an organic, pesticide and bleach free cotton pad). No scented products on that area, in fact I didn't wash there at all, I used coconut oil to clean the area and when showered I used organic, nasty chemical free and scent free body wash and shampoo and conditioner (because stuff runs down). I also washed my clothes in scent free, kind-to-skin laundry detergent and conditioner. Toilet paper has bleach in it, so I got some tissues that were bleach free and used those to wipe after doing a wee.
The key is to be persistent, try everything, gradually build things up, stick with what works, be determined, don't give in. The consultant dermatologist was very impressed with me because I was so determined and didn't give into urges. She said she had many women who just got fed up with how long it was taking and just went for a long walk / bike ride / horse ride or had sex and put themselves back at square one again. It does take a long time - it took me 1.5 years of all that stuff in my message above to get to being pain free. Even now, 5 years later, I still apply coconut oil after every time I go to the toilet, use tonnes of oil based lube during intercourse, go around the house wear no knickers. I don't want it to come back. I am also still on 50mg amitriptyline a day. At first I was afraid to come off it because the consultant dermatologist told me, you may be pain free, but if you come off it too soon, the pain can come back. So it is best to wait a few months after being pain free. Then menopause set in and I got hot flushes and my GP told me to stay on the amitriptyline because it helps with hot flushes. My body has adapted to it now. I hope to reduce the dose sometime (gradually, by 5mg very 2 weeks, just like I built it up). I still do pelvic floor exercises - the book I got was called 7 steps to pain-free sex by Claudia Amherd. It is mainly about vaginismus, but the exercises apply to vulvodynia too - just don't do them sitting on a juggling ball (ouch) do them standing up first, then lying down, as it advises in the book. Gradually build up the exercises, doing more and more each time. Again, don't do so much that it causes an increase in pain or lasting pain - cut back if that happens.
Also, you need to get some organic, chemical free sanitary towels for when you have your period (no tampons).
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katythebosslady Suki_girl
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Oh my goodness! I am so happy that I've found this thread! I'm no where near done reading through it, but I already have a page of ideas to try.
I'm 29 and I was recently diagnosed with provoked vestibulodynia. I have absolutely no idea what has caused it, when it started, or why it's getting worse. I've always just assumed that some level of pain down there is normal sometimes, so I didn't think anything of it until last July when it suddenly (and I mean suddenly) became excruciating to touch. Literally, one minute my husband and I were having sex and everything felt fine and the next minute I couldn't even walk properly I was in so much pain. It has since eased up occasionally from that time. On rare days, I'm even pain free, but I don't know why. Over the past few months, though, it's been getting worse, again, and it's starting to really affect my mental and sexual health. My husband is supportive most of the time, but I can tell he is also frustrated. Even though my pain is largely contained to the bedroom, I do experience pain without touch sometimes. I also have some other irregular pain in the pelvic area that may or may not be related.
So far, I have found relief using petroleum jelly as lubricant before sex, but I started getting UTI's shortly after starting to use it, and I've never had this before, so I think the jelly is the cause. I've tried water-based lube with glycerin, but no relief there. My GP's only advice was water-based lube without glycerin/glycerol and to see a pelvic floor physiotherapist. She's a really good doctor, so I don't want it to sound like I'm complaining about her. I just don't think this is something that's really up her alley.
The PT has been more helpful. I've only seen her twice, but she has given me some breathing exercises that has helped some of my pelvic pain (not the vestibulodynia, though). She also recommended pain journaling, but I haven't tried that, yet. It's just writing about the pain and then throwing out the evidence. Getting it out and then getting rid of it. I like regular journaling for my anxiety, so I think this will be good. She wants me to try pelvic floor mapping with my husband since I cannot feel anything inside the actual canal, not even pressure. All I feel is pain at the entrance. She didn't say why, but it might be necessary before we can start any biofeedback stuff. She has also mentioned desensitization, but wants to wait a bit before starting that. And she wants me to see a therapist because psychological pain can cause physical pain, so I'm currently on the hunt for one. She has also suggested that the physical and psychological trauma of the miscarriage I had last May might have induced my body to try to protect itself from that happening again with this pain response. I don't know if that's the case, but it's as good an idea as the others. And maybe if I get pregnant again and this one sticks, that'll be enough for my body to decide there's no need to protect it anymore. It's a happy thought, anyway...
I'm going to start an elimination diet next week and see if that helps at all. I got a really good deal on a program from a women's health blogger with a diet plan and recipes, so I'm going to adapt that a little and follow that for the next few weeks, and if I feel better, I'll start challenging at that point. I'm going to start with eliminating grains, dairy, eggs, nightshades, soy, legumes, caffeine, alcohol, added and refined sugar, and citrus. If that's not doing it, I'll add high oxalate food to the list. And then we'll see from there!
I was feeling quite down this morning, but finding this post and seeing how many others are suffering with this and that people have been able to find relief through their own determination has inspired me. I'm ready to get started on this journey! I know it's not going to be easy, but the challenge of finding relief will not be nearly as bad as the challenge of living with this for the rest of my life. I already feel better psychologically by getting this all out of me. Thank you to everyone who has posted ideas here and I hope that we all get better. Praying for everyone!
Suki_girl katythebosslady
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It will be a long journey but it will be worth it. It sounds like you have tension in your pelvic floor and seeing a pelvic floor physio should really help. I also recommend the book Seven steps to pain free sex, but only after the initial manual desensitisation. Manual desensitisation really does work to retrain the nerve endings to experience touch as touch and not pain. Please do try acupuncture, many women have found this really helps to calm down those nerves. As I have said before, it is worth trying everything because it will not get better on its own. Please also stop anything that aggravates it or it will not get better. And, yes that means sex. In the past I have been private messaging (that function now seems to be disabled on this site) women who have been making progress but then they get impatient and have sex and put themselves back to square one with the pain and discover to their cost that it was not worth it. Stay determined, stay positive, stop doing anything that aggravates the nerves and keep doing anything that helps reduce the pain and you will get to be pain free.
katythebosslady Suki_girl
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Thanks so much, Suki! I'll look around and see if I can find an acupuncturist who knows how to treat this condition. My community is very rural, so it's hard to find people who specialize in really anything. It will be a difficult conversation with my husband, for sure. I'll have to wait until he's in an exceptionally good mood to drop that one. But I'm hopeful about the manual desensitization. I'll talk to my PT about it some more. The pelvic floor mapping she has me doing is kind of aggravating, so we'll have to revisit that.
Suki_girl katythebosslady
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Is your clitoris involved in the pain? The most common area for vulvodynia is a horseshoe shape to the rear of the vaginal opening (between the vagina and anus), which can be more on one side than the other. The clitoris is not usually involved and can still be stimulated. It is actually called clitoral distraction because while the clitoris is stimulated the vulva pain is not felt. So, what I am getting at is you and your hubby may have to find other ways to be intimate / pleasure each other while you are on the journey to becoming pain free. I would hope that your hubby would want you to be pain free and would not like to think that you are in pain. I had to abstain from sexual penetration for 1.5 years and then gradually built it up.
LadyMercia Suki_girl
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The book you recommended arrived today so thank you again.
LadyMercia Suki_girl
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Good evening Suki_girl
Just thought I'd update you... my GP has put me on 10mg Amit but I've requested the dose be increased.
First Acupuncture appoint is a week Friday.
The saginal gel arrived; I'll start using that tomorrow.
And finally, you were right about the water based lube; stung like hell!
LadyMercia Suki_girl
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Has anyone had issue with tinnitus while taking the Amitriptyline? I've suffered with Tinnitus for about 3 years but had the high pitch ringing under control and just heard my pulse at night, but just over a week of medication (9 nights) and the last 2 nights the ringing has come back full force. I have just upped the dose from 10 to 15mg the last 2 nights with a view to going to 20mg (started on 5 then 10 for the first 7 night and was ok), now not sure what to do? Should I reduce again or stop the medication completely and see if the tinnitus goes? Could trying a different medication be a better option? Don't like the idea of taking medication to help with the Vulvodynia and having to put up with the crazy noise of the tinnitus.
Any advice would be greatly received!
LadyMercia Suki_girl
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Just to let you know the specialist @ the Churchill has just retired 😦
katythebosslady Suki_girl
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Hi Suki. Definitely did not get notified of your response. No, the clitoris isn't involved, but I don't think my husband would be up for that, for religious reasons. He honestly hasn't been very supportive. He "has his needs" and I have to "do my marital duty." He won't even use lube because the sensation gives him the heeby-jeebies. But whatever. Guess I'm on my own.
I'm pregnant now. I was hoping that might help, but it's just as painful as ever. My pain is cyclic - eases up and almost disappears around ovulation, but I don't ovulate now, so just always pain. I tried manual desensitization for a month, but no improvement, so I quit, and then a few days later randomly was pain-free, and then it came back. There seems to be no rhyme or reason. Going to start going to the PT again and will try to make another appointment with my GP to get some more ideas. It would be great if she would refer me to a gynecologist. The more internal pain I had is manageable with the non-nociceptive pressure techniques my PT gave me, but I have external pain that 2% lidocaine can't mask. I found an article with something I'd like to try because I've found hydrocortisone temporarily helpful in the past (https://www.scitechnol.com/peer-review/a-topical-regimen-for-the-treatment-of-provoked-vestibulodynia-protocol-and-aretrospective-case-series-UjPc.php?article_id=5028). It would have to wait until after the baby is born, though.
I feel like I've been dealing with this forever and some days I'm just so defeated. I have no libido and the thought of having sex gives me anxiety. The wedge between me and my husband is huge, but he doesn't seem to want to try to fix it. I just don't know what to do anymore. I feel so stuck, trapped in an endless loop of things just getting worse. The options for treatment are endless, but I get very little help from medical professionals and it's just overwhelming, especially since nothing seems to be helping. I feel so alone in all of this. I just want someone to make a plan for me and get my husband on board. Sorry, I'm just complaining at this point and I don't expect you to do anything about it. I need to get it off my chest, though.
patient12844 Suki_girl
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Hello Suki,
this was great information to find, thank you.
May I ask what type of acupuncture you had? Was it applied locally? I cant imagine that would be ok 😦
Suki_girl patient12844
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By "locally" do you mean in the vulva? No, it was definitely not applied there. That is not how acupuncture, medical or traditional, works. Traditional or Chinese acupuncture is based on channels of energy and the needles are applied at specific points on these channels to affect a particular part of the body, but they are not put into that part of the body, they are put in the channel associated with that part of the body or function of the body. I had medical or western acupuncture which is based on the nervous system (which actually corresponds pretty closely to the energy channels) so the needles are applied higher up the nerves to the area you want to gave an effect on. So, in my case it is the pelvic nerves that go to the vulva and we needed to reduce the over activity of the nerves endings in the vulva so the needles are applied higher up the nerve pathway, that is either side of the lower back. In medical acupuncture electricity is passed through the needles and thus has a numbing effect on the nerves, damping down their over activity. My daughter is receiving traditional acupuncture for pelvic pain due to endometriosis and the needles are applied along various pathways in her tummy, legs and arms. After a session she has no pain and this benefit is building up with each weekly session, just like it did with me.
magaly36971 Suki_girl
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Hi Suki_girl and members in this thread,
First I just want to say I am so happy to have found this forum. I have searched all over the internet , Reddit and others and none have as much interaction and information the way this forum does. Thank you Suki_girl for starting this thread and sharing your personal experience and success story not many people take the time to do so.
I was diagnosed with Vulvodynia a week ago after experiencing constant vulvar irritation since the end of May. constant burning, tingling, prickly , raw irritated feeling towards the back of my vagina close to the opening and its usually just on 1 side but there has been a few times I have felt it move to the other side. My case is also a little different because I was also diagnosed with HSV2 in Dec 2020 5 months before I started experiencing the constant discomfort. I started taking antivirals daily for it and was doing great up until May again when the constant discomfort and symptoms started. Also I felt the burning and itching , prickly sensation around my anus and recently experienced my first hemorrhoid which was so painful and did go down but i still feel a bit of pain when i have bowel movements. At first I attributed the symptoms all to the herpes because what a coincidence that this all started after that diagnoses not to mention the predome symptoms before an outbreak present in the same way but no, no lesions or sores ever appeared. I saw 4 gynos who all said everything looked normal down there and assured me it was not herpes related bc the virus does not behave in that way with the constant symptoms, they changed my antivirals to the other options and prescribed me lidocaine and sent me on my way telling me theres not much else they could do. The last doc I visited a regular GP went in the room saw me and after I told her my history and what i have been going through said she believes its Vulvodynia triggered but the herpes virus and the nerves are inflamed and on over drive and we need to calm them down. She prescribed Amitriptyline 30mg at bedtime and a steroid cream . It has been 1 week 7 days taking the pills and did the steroid cream 5 days at night and (knock on wood) but today was a great day I felt almost nothing on my vulva. Not getting my hopes up as I know this will be a slow process with ups and downs but just felt I should share my situation in case anyone else has a situation more similar to mine. I also am interested in the physiotherapy and acupuncture. I also want to share my progress along the way.
I also was thinking it would be very beneficial and helpful if somehow there was a way all women could share history factors that could give us more insight into what causes this disease to begin with . What all do we share in common for ex: birth control taken in the past and for how long ? Stomach issues ? As I feel I have had IBS forever. Other illnesses, viruses or infections ? Trauma etc ... Anyways I really hope this medication helps me and I continue to improve.
Suki_girl magaly36971
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Hi Magaly36. I am pleased you finally got a diagnosis and correct medication. For even more improvement try to increase the amitriptyline to 50-75mg. And I would definitely recommend acupuncture. Are you in the UK? You need to go to the British Acupuncture Council website to find a qualified accredited practitioner in traditional/Chinese acupuncture near you or the British Medical Acupuncture Society website to find a qualified accredited practitioner in medical/western acupuncture near you. Acupuncture works very well with amitriptyline to dampen down the overactive nerves.
LadyMercia Suki_girl
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I'm 6 weeks into the meds & while they've helped massively with the burning & sitting, I've experienced a new warmth sensation covering all of the vulva area + the tops of my inner thighs. I've never experienced this warmth sensation before during the 10 yrs of flare ups & believe it started 2 weeks' into the meds. GP believes it's linked to the Vulvodynia but why am I only now experiencing this? Can amitriptyline make symptoms worse? Is it possible I've been misdiagnosed with Vulvodynia & this super warmth is a side effect of the meds? Anyone else had anything similar with this medication? Just so weird!
Suki_girl LadyMercia
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Not something I experienced, I'm afraid.
LadyMercia Suki_girl
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Ok... thanks for replying anyways.