How I cured my vulvodynia
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I see so many posts on here about constant or provoked vulva pain that I thought it might be useful if I explained vulvodynia and how I cured mine. Vulvodynia literally means vulvar pain and is a condition of the nerves in that area. The nerves have become hyperactive and hypersensitive due to trauma which can be chemical or physical in source or due to infection. I think mine was due to persistent thrush infection and the many remedies I tried to cure it, including home remedies such as bathing in a bath with some cider vinegar in - that made my soreness much worse (chemical trauma). Vulvodynia can cause itching, sore or burning sensation and this can be continuous or provoked (only happens when the area is touched). The nerves are so hypersensitive they register touch as pain and the usual way to diagnose it is to touch around the vulvar area with a cotton bud and where the touch registers as pain then that is the affected area. It can involve the whole of the vulvar area or can be in a horseshoe shape toward the posterior (which may also involve the perineum) or the anterior or can be offset to one side. The pain is a form of chronic neuropathic pain because it stems from nerve damage as opposed to nociceptive pain which is caused by tissue damage. Neuropathic pain can be very hard to get rid of. It took me 1.5 years of determination and the occasional disappointing set back to cure my vulvodynia. Probably more like 2 years to get back to normal.
Ok, ready for a long story about how I cured my vulvodynia:-
First I saw a gynaecologist. He took a biopsy of the painful area and confirmed no diseases or cancer. He put me on amitriptyline and steroid cream. These slowly worked for a while and made me comfortable enough to have a long overdue smear test. I had the smear test and the pain came back full force - back to square 1. By that time I had used the steroid cream for as long as is recommended and had stopped it (long term use not recommended). However, desperate to get rid of the pain I tired it again, but this time the cream stung me and made the pain worse. The gynaecologist gave me lynocaine cream to numb the area, but that stung me and made me worse. Nothing was working and in the end the gynae said that he could not cure me he could just help me managed the pain. Well, I wasn't going to put up with that for the rest of my life. So I did some investigating to find someone else who could help me and found a dermatologist consultant in Oxford who specialised in vulva pain. I also found some medication on the internet, made in Italy which is a gel is specifically for treating vulvodynia. It calms down the overactive and hypersensitive nerves. Saginil gel - you can order it direct from the suppliers, epitech, on their website. You can do this because it is not classed as a medicine because it is made of natural plant-based ingredients. It is expensive, as is the post from Italy, but I am so pleased I bought it because it was the only thing my skin could tolerate there and it did make a difference - it reduced the pain so that it was bearable and I could function better with daily life.
i saw the dermatologist and she told me all the things that she had found worked to get rid of the pain, but nerve pain is difficult to get rid of so she suggested I try them all and stick at it. i was surprised because, appears from upping the amitriptyline dose to 50-70mg a day (I was on 20), the rest of the things were what you would class alternative, or natural, cures. They were: western acupuncture, physiotherapy, chiropraction and manual desensitisation. Now, different things work for different people because there are different causes for the vulvodynia: infection, physical or chemical trauma, hormones, trapped nerve in back. I knew mine was caused by repeated and persistent thrush and the various treatments I tried to get rid of it (including cider vinegar - ouch! No!). So I didn't see a chiropractor because is didn't thing it stemmed from a pelvic nerve problem, however, from what you describe, yours might. I did do yoga exercises that free trapped pelvic nerves. I bought a book on pelvic floor exercises and did those, rather than see a physio. I did the manual desensitisation - this is where you stroke yourself very lightly in the painful area, using non-irritating lubricant (I used oil based lube by yes, or coconut oil), just once the first day. Then each day you gradually build up the strokes in number and pressure. The idea is that you are retraining the nerves to register touch as touch and not pain. So, massage yourself there just enough so as not to cause lasting pain afterwards. I built it up until I could do 100 strokes of fairly good pressure, then I moved into inserting a finger, then two, then the tip of my husband's penis and then gradually out him in a little further each time, until I could get most of him in, then starting moving with him in, again gradually building it up each time. I also found a GP that also ran a Western acupuncture clinic. Western means that they leave the meddles in and pass electricity through them. That was what really worked for me - each time I went I just got better and better. Apparently the amitriptyline and the acupuncture work well together to dampen down those hyperactive and oversensitive nerves. I upped the amitriptyline to 50mg as day, very gradually by 5mg every 1 or 2 weeks because it caused side effects so my body needed to adapt to each increase.
Finally, there are the changes to how you live. No tight clothes, no sex (until you are ready), no exercise (I gradually built that up too but walking just a short distance and gradually increasing it - never do an amount that cause she lasting pain). Go knicker free if you can - I work mainly from home so was able to go around with no knickers on and baggy jogging bottoms or a skirt. Sitting also caused problems (I work at a computer) so I got a ring shoved cushion form woman to use after they have given birth and sat in that so that there was no pressure at all on the sensitive area (dame for driving the car). Coconut oil was soothing (raw, cold pressed, organic coconut oil) so I applied that externally and internally with a clean finger after every time I went to the loo (I carried a little pot in my hand bag so I could apply it while out and about with an organic, pesticide and bleach free cotton pad). No scented products on that area, in fact I didn't wash there at all, I used coconut oil to clean the area and when showered I used organic, nasty chemical free and scent free body wash and shampoo and conditioner (because stuff runs down). I also washed my clothes in scent free, kind-to-skin laundry detergent and conditioner. Toilet paper has bleach in it, so I got some tissues that were bleach free and used those to wipe after doing a wee.
The key is to be persistent, try everything, gradually build things up, stick with what works, be determined, don't give in. The consultant dermatologist was very impressed with me because I was so determined and didn't give into urges. She said she had many women who just got fed up with how long it was taking and just went for a long walk / bike ride / horse ride or had sex and put themselves back at square one again. It does take a long time - it took me 1.5 years of all that stuff in my message above to get to being pain free. Even now, 5 years later, I still apply coconut oil after every time I go to the toilet, use tonnes of oil based lube during intercourse, go around the house wear no knickers. I don't want it to come back. I am also still on 50mg amitriptyline a day. At first I was afraid to come off it because the consultant dermatologist told me, you may be pain free, but if you come off it too soon, the pain can come back. So it is best to wait a few months after being pain free. Then menopause set in and I got hot flushes and my GP told me to stay on the amitriptyline because it helps with hot flushes. My body has adapted to it now. I hope to reduce the dose sometime (gradually, by 5mg very 2 weeks, just like I built it up). I still do pelvic floor exercises - the book I got was called 7 steps to pain-free sex by Claudia Amherd. It is mainly about vaginismus, but the exercises apply to vulvodynia too - just don't do them sitting on a juggling ball (ouch) do them standing up first, then lying down, as it advises in the book. Gradually build up the exercises, doing more and more each time. Again, don't do so much that it causes an increase in pain or lasting pain - cut back if that happens.
Also, you need to get some organic, chemical free sanitary towels for when you have your period (no tampons).
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hope60839 Suki_girl
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hello Everyone!
unfortunately I have been diagnosed with vulvodynia and Ic recently. I was trying to be go for more a natural approach but the pain has been so bothersome I can't stop crying. 😦
I did see a pelvic floor therapist earlier and released a lot of tight and tension muscles, she was so nice and gave me tips on how to manage my condition, on top of that she gave me indiva procedure it's a non invasive that heals inflammed nerves and also some dry needling. I called my specialist earlier because the pain was just too much and prescribed me tramadol, I will also be seeing them this monday to discuss on the treatment plan. I will see an acupuncturist tomorrow for 2nd treatment and will tell him on the specific part that is hurting.
this is really new to me and this is what I am doing so far:
earlier today I cried so much because of the pain, I am hoping to find relief like most of you soon!
hope
LadyMercia hope60839
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Hello
You're in the right place & I'm sure Suki will reply as soon as she's able to & when she's seen your post.
I can totally sympathise with you as I was a complete mess last July when I suffered my current & longest flare up to date (I'd managed my Vulvodynia medication free on & off from 2013 until then). Following 10 months of trial & error I've found what kinda works for me (in addition to most of Suki's advise):-
I'm also taking Amitriptyline 32mg, but I've had some crappy side effects so it's taken a super long time to get to that dosage; I still hope to increase further over the coming months.
Finally, I've noticed my pain is so much more noticeable (as is my tinnitus) when I'm stressed, anxious, worked up or when I'm having a meltdown lol. Try to stay calm & relaxed & know that you will get better. This forum is full of helpful info & plenty of people willing to help & advise. At the beginning of this journey back in July I was at a pain level of 7,8/10 with bad weeks & good days; now most of the time (with the exception of 2 UTI's - ouch) I'm 1,2/10 with good weeks & bad days so it does & will improve for you as it did for me.
Stay positive!
hope60839 LadyMercia
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thanks so much for the reply! it has it's good and bad days... I was just diagnosed 3 weeks ago but whole thing started in February. I am trying my best to stay positive and optimistic with these diagnosis, I also have a very good Pelvic Floor Therapist that said don't treat it a s a dx but a symptom and it will just go away with hard work and positive mind.
I have not considered any long term medications yet as I am hoping to resolve this in a more holistic approach. I asked my therapist how manual desensitization work but she said I am too early to try that one yet. My biggest challenge is the diet as I don't know what flares me or now, I am still at the stage of figuring out what. Earlier I worked for about an hour with a donut pillow and I have to stop because it's just burning down there. I did my stretches and got better... i am doing yoga at least 2x daily and I walk 2 short blocks for relaxation purposes.
hope60839 LadyMercia
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hello,
I have privately messaged you, I hope you don't mind... pls let me know, thanks a lot
mary25206 Suki_girl
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I've been suffering from chronic pain in the entrance to the vagina for (I think) years now, and never realized I had an issue until I was old enough to realize that intimacy is painful no matter what. But, I'm confused. The gynecologist I went to claimed it's vulvodynia, which is does sounds like... but most, if not all stories I've read have been issues surrounding the skin tissue on the outside. Mine's on the inside, albeit not very far in... but is this something else, or still considering vulvodynia? It makes it hard because ointments are difficult to apply, and I don't know which I can trust because I don't know if half of these are safe to go inside like that. The gynecologist treated me horribly so I don't plan on going back there for answers.
LadyMercia mary25206
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Hello,
I'm sure Suki will respond when she's able to.
For me, my pain feels external & internal at times & I have found Hydromal ointment helps to sooth & moisten externally; Coconut Oil is safe to be used internally & I know Suki will recommend YES Oil base lube too.
mary25206 LadyMercia
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Is there a type of chemical or ingredient in Monistat or products like such a thing that is available for general use and not for yeast infections? Many months ago I had used the ointment treatment of theirs because I thought I mistook this as a yeast infection. I believe it was the last day of the (3-day?) treatment, or the day after, but it made the vulvodynia a lot more tolerable. But that was the only instance I ever got any form of "relief". I know those things have relieving properties to them for the burning/itching that yeast infections caused, but I was wondering if there was an alternate form that can be used regularly, or not to treat a yeast infection. It may have been a fluke, but I have nothing else to go by. It feels like I'm just throwing money away on mindless "remedies" that do nothing for me.
Thanks.
LadyMercia mary25206
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I'm sorry I've no idea... Suki might be able to help on that question. I've only ever used Canesten cream for a yeast infection & it's always worked well for me.
Have you tried Coconut Oil? I use that internally & externally & Hydromol externally only.
mary25206 LadyMercia
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All I've tried is Lidocaine, which burns, Emu oil which does nothing and I'm waiting on a prescribed steroid cream that seems to have evaporated during shipment or something, and I'm also waiting on Saginel gel. I doubt coconut oil is going to make any more of a difference than emu oil, but I guess I can humor myself if nothing that comes in works
hope60839 Suki_girl
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hello...? is this forum still active?
LadyMercia hope60839
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Yes the forum is still active.
I'll try my best to assist in Suki's absence so feel free to ask any questions.
LadyMercia
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Hello hope60839
How are you going now?
Any improvement in your symptoms?
LadyMercia Suki_girl
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Hi All
Does anyone else's urine sting when they pee sometimes?
I don't have a UTI but I do seem to get a stinging feeling around this time each month (just after my period and before ovulation).
Kiwigal Suki_girl
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Hello ladies.
Not sure if this excellent thread is still going but worth a shot. I've had this pain for about 6 months. Burning vulva, perineum and also down the back of my legs. Definitely gets better when I get my period. Nothing at all internally. Like no pain from tampons/husbands etc... tho due to external not feeling all that frisky. Tried ovestin and dermol initially as i avoided the Dr in Jan due to height of omicron outbreak in NZ but got some creams to try. No change.
Eventually got to vulva pain specialist who suggested i may have manifested it due to starting a menopause podcast last year and i simply cannot get onboard with that. She prescribed Amitriptyline but I'm also epileptic and tho she didn't tell me, someone else said it can be a seizure trigger so I've been a bit loathed to try. Tho my epilepsy is tightly controlled but not having had a seizure since 94 I'm not all that keen to repeat.
I might try an elimination diet and she also prescribed some emulsifying wash but i wondered if anyone else had had the leg thing too? Or epilepsy? She said as i had such a relaxed pelvic floor physio etc... wasn't relevant but it just screams nerve damage to me.
The pain is very annoying but not excruciating. More a constant low level hum of burning.
thanks for all your great messages.
LadyMercia Kiwigal
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Hello, welcome & yes it's still active.
I used to get pain around the top of my thighs but I haven't felt that in a while... is it similar to that?
Hydromol ointment is super helpful for me externally & coconut oil internally.
I believe my hormones played a massive part in this condition for me along with stress & sensitive skin.