How I cured my vulvodynia
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I see so many posts on here about constant or provoked vulva pain that I thought it might be useful if I explained vulvodynia and how I cured mine. Vulvodynia literally means vulvar pain and is a condition of the nerves in that area. The nerves have become hyperactive and hypersensitive due to trauma which can be chemical or physical in source or due to infection. I think mine was due to persistent thrush infection and the many remedies I tried to cure it, including home remedies such as bathing in a bath with some cider vinegar in - that made my soreness much worse (chemical trauma). Vulvodynia can cause itching, sore or burning sensation and this can be continuous or provoked (only happens when the area is touched). The nerves are so hypersensitive they register touch as pain and the usual way to diagnose it is to touch around the vulvar area with a cotton bud and where the touch registers as pain then that is the affected area. It can involve the whole of the vulvar area or can be in a horseshoe shape toward the posterior (which may also involve the perineum) or the anterior or can be offset to one side. The pain is a form of chronic neuropathic pain because it stems from nerve damage as opposed to nociceptive pain which is caused by tissue damage. Neuropathic pain can be very hard to get rid of. It took me 1.5 years of determination and the occasional disappointing set back to cure my vulvodynia. Probably more like 2 years to get back to normal.
Ok, ready for a long story about how I cured my vulvodynia:-
First I saw a gynaecologist. He took a biopsy of the painful area and confirmed no diseases or cancer. He put me on amitriptyline and steroid cream. These slowly worked for a while and made me comfortable enough to have a long overdue smear test. I had the smear test and the pain came back full force - back to square 1. By that time I had used the steroid cream for as long as is recommended and had stopped it (long term use not recommended). However, desperate to get rid of the pain I tired it again, but this time the cream stung me and made the pain worse. The gynaecologist gave me lynocaine cream to numb the area, but that stung me and made me worse. Nothing was working and in the end the gynae said that he could not cure me he could just help me managed the pain. Well, I wasn't going to put up with that for the rest of my life. So I did some investigating to find someone else who could help me and found a dermatologist consultant in Oxford who specialised in vulva pain. I also found some medication on the internet, made in Italy which is a gel is specifically for treating vulvodynia. It calms down the overactive and hypersensitive nerves. Saginil gel - you can order it direct from the suppliers, epitech, on their website. You can do this because it is not classed as a medicine because it is made of natural plant-based ingredients. It is expensive, as is the post from Italy, but I am so pleased I bought it because it was the only thing my skin could tolerate there and it did make a difference - it reduced the pain so that it was bearable and I could function better with daily life.
i saw the dermatologist and she told me all the things that she had found worked to get rid of the pain, but nerve pain is difficult to get rid of so she suggested I try them all and stick at it. i was surprised because, appears from upping the amitriptyline dose to 50-70mg a day (I was on 20), the rest of the things were what you would class alternative, or natural, cures. They were: western acupuncture, physiotherapy, chiropraction and manual desensitisation. Now, different things work for different people because there are different causes for the vulvodynia: infection, physical or chemical trauma, hormones, trapped nerve in back. I knew mine was caused by repeated and persistent thrush and the various treatments I tried to get rid of it (including cider vinegar - ouch! No!). So I didn't see a chiropractor because is didn't thing it stemmed from a pelvic nerve problem, however, from what you describe, yours might. I did do yoga exercises that free trapped pelvic nerves. I bought a book on pelvic floor exercises and did those, rather than see a physio. I did the manual desensitisation - this is where you stroke yourself very lightly in the painful area, using non-irritating lubricant (I used oil based lube by yes, or coconut oil), just once the first day. Then each day you gradually build up the strokes in number and pressure. The idea is that you are retraining the nerves to register touch as touch and not pain. So, massage yourself there just enough so as not to cause lasting pain afterwards. I built it up until I could do 100 strokes of fairly good pressure, then I moved into inserting a finger, then two, then the tip of my husband's penis and then gradually out him in a little further each time, until I could get most of him in, then starting moving with him in, again gradually building it up each time. I also found a GP that also ran a Western acupuncture clinic. Western means that they leave the meddles in and pass electricity through them. That was what really worked for me - each time I went I just got better and better. Apparently the amitriptyline and the acupuncture work well together to dampen down those hyperactive and oversensitive nerves. I upped the amitriptyline to 50mg as day, very gradually by 5mg every 1 or 2 weeks because it caused side effects so my body needed to adapt to each increase.
Finally, there are the changes to how you live. No tight clothes, no sex (until you are ready), no exercise (I gradually built that up too but walking just a short distance and gradually increasing it - never do an amount that cause she lasting pain). Go knicker free if you can - I work mainly from home so was able to go around with no knickers on and baggy jogging bottoms or a skirt. Sitting also caused problems (I work at a computer) so I got a ring shoved cushion form woman to use after they have given birth and sat in that so that there was no pressure at all on the sensitive area (dame for driving the car). Coconut oil was soothing (raw, cold pressed, organic coconut oil) so I applied that externally and internally with a clean finger after every time I went to the loo (I carried a little pot in my hand bag so I could apply it while out and about with an organic, pesticide and bleach free cotton pad). No scented products on that area, in fact I didn't wash there at all, I used coconut oil to clean the area and when showered I used organic, nasty chemical free and scent free body wash and shampoo and conditioner (because stuff runs down). I also washed my clothes in scent free, kind-to-skin laundry detergent and conditioner. Toilet paper has bleach in it, so I got some tissues that were bleach free and used those to wipe after doing a wee.
The key is to be persistent, try everything, gradually build things up, stick with what works, be determined, don't give in. The consultant dermatologist was very impressed with me because I was so determined and didn't give into urges. She said she had many women who just got fed up with how long it was taking and just went for a long walk / bike ride / horse ride or had sex and put themselves back at square one again. It does take a long time - it took me 1.5 years of all that stuff in my message above to get to being pain free. Even now, 5 years later, I still apply coconut oil after every time I go to the toilet, use tonnes of oil based lube during intercourse, go around the house wear no knickers. I don't want it to come back. I am also still on 50mg amitriptyline a day. At first I was afraid to come off it because the consultant dermatologist told me, you may be pain free, but if you come off it too soon, the pain can come back. So it is best to wait a few months after being pain free. Then menopause set in and I got hot flushes and my GP told me to stay on the amitriptyline because it helps with hot flushes. My body has adapted to it now. I hope to reduce the dose sometime (gradually, by 5mg very 2 weeks, just like I built it up). I still do pelvic floor exercises - the book I got was called 7 steps to pain-free sex by Claudia Amherd. It is mainly about vaginismus, but the exercises apply to vulvodynia too - just don't do them sitting on a juggling ball (ouch) do them standing up first, then lying down, as it advises in the book. Gradually build up the exercises, doing more and more each time. Again, don't do so much that it causes an increase in pain or lasting pain - cut back if that happens.
Also, you need to get some organic, chemical free sanitary towels for when you have your period (no tampons).
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Suki_girl
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linda41401 Suki_girl
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Hi Suki, yes I did think the Emuaid was very pricey, I will give that a miss for the time being, as you say it doesn't need healing, just calming down. I will try the oatmeal in a popsock and see what that does in the bath. I have been using the Dermol 500 all day and night too for past 2 days and today, so far I have had no pain hardly at all, it might be that I am just having a rare good day but I am hoping it is soothing things down there a little,band perhaps helping with chafing when walking. I put it everywhere, including anul area. I don't want to try too many things at once as I won't know which product is helping, but so far this seems to help. I shall be glad when I can increase the Nortriptyline again too.
Suki_girl linda41401
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nisha456 Suki_girl
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my doctor didn’t want me even going past 10mg for a couple of months
but I see so many people get more relief by going 30mg and up..
linda41401 nisha456
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I am still on 10mg, going to 20 soon. I wonder why the doctors dont want it increased too much, I don't really know how strong it is. I will hope to go to 40mg max I think. Are you doing acupuncture too? I hope to try that as well. I am having quite good relief too last couple of days from the Dermol 500 cream, using 5 times a day and since using it has not much stinging pain at all, just a bit of drawing / pulling now and again.
nisha456 linda41401
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That’s great news.
I’m simultaneously getting accupuncture as well.
Super inspired by sukigirl & doing everything I can to get better.
Did 2 sessions of accupuncture.. not sure if it’s helping but sure doesn’t hurt because it has many benefits
nisha456
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Reading a lot of good things about them
linda41401 nisha456
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Hi Nisha, have you tried the Dermot 500 yet? Its easily available from a chemist, not too expensive. Do you get any side effects from the amitriptyline at all, mine said mostly dry mouth and tiredness but has none so far although only still on 10mg, a little tiredness the first 2 days. How did you find the acupuncturist? Did you enquire if they dealt with Vulvadynia when booking it? As for the Gabapentin, I don't know much about it, but my gynaecologist said if the Nortriptyline didn't work, she would try me on that.
linda41401 nisha456
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I did read it's an anti epileptic drug, but also used to treat nerve pain, such as shingles etc. But it does mention several times that it can cause mood changes and a danger that some people will get suicidal thoughts, don't like the sound of that much!!
Suki_girl linda41401
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linda41401 nisha456
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linda41401 Suki_girl
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hi Suki, yes I will probably end up on Gabapentin if the Nortriptyline doesn't work, I just didn't like the suicide side effect, but I guess if you read the side effects on most medication you wouldn't take any of it. Praying the Nortriptyline works though. Really thinking of a acupuncturist as well, been looking up some today. Has a bit of a relapse this morning, was so good over the weekend, but stinging back this morning, but I had my mammograms so it could be the stress of that that started it, settling down a bit now. You are so lucky to have got over this, I really hope I do too, do you get no relapses at all now?
nisha456 linda41401
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She had no clue what it was..
I explained to her what it felt like and what it is & then she did her best by targeting certain parts
Suki_girl linda41401
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No relapses now. Once the nerves are back to normal, they are back to normal. But I am ultra careful now - because I now know vulvodynia exists! I don’t want it again! I still sit in the donut cushion, still do my pelvic floor exercises and massage the skin myself. I am also still on amitriptyline because I now have hot flushes and night sweats due to menopause and amitriptyline helps with that, so my GP said I may as well stay in the amitriptyline because my body had adapted to it now. I certainly do get a good nights sleep, despite the night sweats (which I only know I have because they wake up my hubby!). The suicidal thoughts side effect only applies to people who are taking amitriptyline for depression. Apparently antidepressants can make depression worse before they start to make you better.
linda41401 Suki_girl
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Thanks for this Suki. It looks like doing everything to just get the nerves back to normal then. Thanks for explaining the affects of the drugs, it makes sense the side effects will be worse if depressed but we are using it for nerve pain, so suppose it's different. I have been told about a product called Vagikool, have you heard of that, it looks good, a ice pack designed to go inside pants, expensive but if it cools things down might be worth a try
Suki_girl linda41401
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katie26785 nisha456
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