Hydrocortizone not working on PMR so great after all
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I'm the gal who went to the endocrinologist to see how to reduce my prednisone for the rhumatologist who thinks I don't have PMR, and was put on hydrocortizone instead of pred. Almost a month later I had a SED rate and other stuff taken and my inflammation has gone up from the high 52 to 63. Painwise I have been suffering a lot, though just on the cusp of being able to take it. Talked to the rheum. and she said she still wanted to do MRI of my brain, neck, shoulder, before going back to prednisone. What is your guys' take on this?
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DebbieHurts
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I should add that I've had PMR for about 6 years, too long, so my dr says, so she fears it is something else, so I've been taking lots of tests that turn out OK. I think it is PMR, either come back or just still here. I had gotten down to 10 pred. but then flared and went up to 20, which was seemingly too hard for me to reduce, which gave the dr the idea my illness is something else. Now I take no pred at all! Just the hydrocortizone, and have gone up like that in inflammation.
EileenH DebbieHurts
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I'd find another rheumatologist.
PMR has a median duration of 5.9 years - which means there are quite a few people who have it longer.
https://www.practicalpainmanagement.com/resources/news-and-research/polymyalgia-rheumatica-steroid-side-effects-new-findings
The dose of hydrocortisone is obviously not equivalent to the dose of pred you need - and allowing such high levels of inflammation is not good.
marian56227 DebbieHurts
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I have been on preds for nearly 3 years & now my wonderful Dr says all the pain I've been in isn't from PMR as the preds haven't helped it. I'm so angry. Have had so many evil side effects incl both eyes done for cataracts, which the surgeon says was caused by preds. Think now I've had fibromyalgia all along which my Osteopath said 3 yrs ago & arthritis. But the Dr knew best - I don't think. Down to 4mg now - can't wait to get off the damn things totally.
EileenH marian56227
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marian56227 EileenH
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I started on 15mg, had some relief for a while, but never without pain. Over the past 3 yrs it's been a constant yo-yo, slowly reducing, then back up. But now down to 4mg & reducing 1mg per month.
EileenH marian56227
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If you got relief - it wasn't fibromyalgia! But you probably didn't start at the right dose - 20mg might have achieved more. And it didn't cure anything - PMR is a long term condition, anything from 2 to 6 or more years. You have to remain at the dose that still manages the symptoms. If it "isn't working" it could well be because you are being forced to reduce too much and too far.
DebbieHurts EileenH
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My starting dose was 25, I think, and it was like night and day. I had a few weeks of pure normalness, as if I were in my 20s (I'm 64). Unfortunately it settled to being just OK. Since then I've gone down to 10, up to 15 then 20, and at 20 I was OK again, but very hard to reduce, so hard that the dr panicked, I think. I gave her that article to read; hope she does and doesn't poo poo it. I tried to find another rheum. by asking my general dr, but she said this dr was very knowledgable, to keep her.
EileenH DebbieHurts
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Except there's knowledgable and knowledgable - PMR tends to draw the short straw with a lot of doctors!
Michdonn DebbieHurts
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DebbieHurts
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Eileen, Michdom and all, thanks for the encouragement that helps me so much. I'm going to be more forceful about the Prednisone, even though she threatened to drop me if I kept at it. I think she did that just for effect, but still what a mean thing to say from a really nice person. I laughed at the time, thinking she was kidding. I see her again in a month.
Kdemers DebbieHurts
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Michdonn DebbieHurts
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Debbie Hurts, when my Rheumy thread to drop, I went to my PC explained the situation to her. She looked at the articles I had and told me that if the Rheumy dropped me she would provide the Prednisone. Since then the Rheumy has slowly come around. Stick to your guns it's your body. Good luck, think positive! ??
Michdonn Kdemers
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Flutterbie57 DebbieHurts
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I don't have Dr options much either, but I did see a Student Dr (near graduation ) this week so it was interesting to hear his almost fresh out of University take on PMR patients. He placed his hands on my shoulders, closed to my neck and gently massaged it (the upper shoulder, back, neck muscles). He said that if my PMR was not under control, then I would have felt immense pain. I didn't. Could it be so simple ? Get someone to try it on you ?
R u the Debbie with Fibro as well ?
?I am so forgetful about other people on here, so I think I will put a new post on here to get people to fill in the 'About you' section on their profile. Ihave Pred head, as we call it, as an excuse for my forgetfulness. I forget who is who, sometimes and look there to remind myself who has what
EileenH Flutterbie57
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Sorry, I think he is wrong! Your PMR as such can be under control - but myofascial pain syndrome can cause horrendous shoulder and back pain. I can be bouncing up and down stairs but when the MPS is out to play I will scream blue murder if the doctor prods the wrong bit! Post whiplash when a car drove out in front of me the GP touched ny shoulders and I nearly hit the ceiling - I hadn't been aware of it before.
Flutterbie57 EileenH
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I am fairly certain that it is not the PMR flaring up causing me extra grief as I took advice from here and extra pred did not help.
I am finally off to see a Rheumy tho