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I had surgery in 2014.

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carol73193
carol73193

Hi.Has anyone that has had surgery ended up with this awful dizzy complaint? In september 2014 i had a toe fusion operation, a week after surgery i had real bad vertigo episode, was given anti sickness meds. But to date it has not got ant better! Have visited doctor about 4 times and now been given Betahistine! Cant say it has made alot of difference. now im getting major headaches with the dizziness. I have read that a bacterial infection could possibly cause this? As i had a spinal block aswell as a general anthisetic. im beginning to think this maybe the cause of all this?? i have at last received ENT appt, but have little faith in what the medical profesion come up with, if you understand. I just wondering if anyone else has had this happen after surgery? Im finding it very hard to cope with at the age of 65. I know i should have open mind on all this!! I just need some help and answers.

Sorry for the moaning.But any help on this matter will be much appreciated.

Carol. X

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  • paula59
    paula59 carol73193

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    HI carol , Anne , when you screw up your face and frown and screw up your eyes thats when you are putting your corrugator muscle into spasm.  This irritates the nerve directly underneath which leads to the brain stem.  Depending on which bit is inflamed, and what it is attached to in the brain, thats what symptoms you get.  The answer is the botox.  It freezes the muscle in forehead and back of eyes and lets the nerve heal.  It really does work and it solved quite a few of my symptoms.  But its worn off now.  Im waiting for next lot on NHS.  Got to have another go at drugs first.  I paid privately last time. 
    • carol73193
      carol73193 paula59

      Posted

      Hi paula. So its possible to get botox on the NHS? this very interesting. But must get this ENT appt tomorrow out the way, then can hopefully get to see someone who can just help me. At least with information i have gathered from all you lovely people on here i can at least not go in dumb. X
    • anne05147
      anne05147 paula59

      Posted

      thanks Paula, glad you got back quickly on that one as since reading your post about the corrugator muscle i have been trying to exercise my face by screwing it up.  I have always frowned, even as a child, so i may try the botox to give the nerve a rest.  This is hopefully good news.  Thank you for sharing it.
    • anne05147
      anne05147 paula59

      Posted

      just read up on frowning and apparently we frown most when asleep.  So for the moment i have ordered some Frownies off amazon until i can get some botox.
  • paula59
    paula59 carol73193

    Posted

    good idea, and try consciously not to frown and screw up your face.  But its hard when youre dizzy cos it makes you frown,  The botox was £300 per side at the migraine clinic but £100 per side at local headache clinic.  Im under a specialist at the NHS headache clinic at salford royal and am on the list for the botox which they do give on NHS once three lots of drugs have not worked.  Plus they go into it in depth and make sure its the right diagnosis.  Turns out what I thought was bad sinuses was migraine so had it all my life and didnt know.  It stopped my eyes jumping about which was horrendous and eased the problems with the lighting in shops etc. and with the PC.  All the drugs up to now havent worked.  If you google the migraine clinic I think there is a link which explains it all - the one in harley street that is. 
    • anne05147
      anne05147 paula59

      Posted

      thanks Paula.  Likewise i have sinus problem at the moment with this cold and have always sounded nasally as a GP once told me.  My main problem when not dizzy is my eyes feeling wonky and unable to focus.  I don't want to get overly optimistic but this is quite a breakthrough if it helps.  Thanks.
    • Terry6872737
      Terry6872737 anne05147

      Posted

      Silent migraine symptoms

      People experiencing silent migraine may experience all the symptoms of a migraine attack without the head pain. Some of these symptoms include:

      Speech disturbance

      Migraine aura

      Vision changes

      Seeing flashes or flickering lights

      Seeing zigzag lines or waves, also called fortification illusions

      Seeing spots, stars, halos, circles, lines, shimmering, other shapes or colors

      Blurry vision

      Loss of vision

      Cloudy vision

      Other visual disturbances

      Seeing three-dimensional effects

      Seeing dark areas

      Migraine sensory aura symptoms such as

      Tingling or numbness

      Feeling pins and needles

      Odd sensations in a body part

      Clumsiness or weakness in the limbs

      Vertigo

      Other symptoms

      Amnesia

      Confusion

      Change in mood

      Hearing loss

      Vomiting

      Abdominal pain

      Because many of the symptoms of silent migraines are the same as the symptoms for stroke or a transient ischemic attack (TIA), sometimes called a mini-stroke, it is very important to see a medical professional immediately to diagnose the cause of the symptoms. Ruling out stroke and other more serious disorders is crucial since the typical migraine head pain is not present.

      Another interesting reading that I found that causes some of the symptoms that we are all discussing is about the sternocleidomastoid muscle.  Google that on the internet and see the many symptoms that it being strained can cause.  It would stand to reason that intibation may strain this particular muscle.

    • Terry6872737
      Terry6872737

      Posted

      This I found intereresting as well:

      Dizziness and Balance Problems caused by the Sternocleidomastoid Muscle

      [Sternocleidomastoid muscle - clavicular branch]

      These problems are associated with the clavicular or deep division of the SCM. Usually, patients perceive this as a disagreeable sensation in the head with movement or an unsteadiness, and less often as a spinning sensation. They can also feel unsteady on their feet and veer unintentionally to one side when walking. It can cause falls when bending or stooping, or feeling like they are pitching over backward when looking up. In very severe cases, sudden stretching of this muscle can actually cause fainting. The dizziness can last from seconds to hours following stretching or using the SCM. This can also create nausea, but not vomiting. The SCM signals the brain about the orientation of the head in relation to the body, so when there are trigger points in this branch of the SCM, the brain gets faulty information, creating the dizziness.

      Visual and Eye Disturbance from the Sternocleidomastoid Muscle

      The sternal division can create tearing and reddening (blood shot) in the same side eye. It can also create a "drooping" of the eyelid caused by a spasm of the muscle around the eye (the obicularis oculi muscle). This muscle can also create twitching of the eye or eyelid. There can also be blurring of vision, dimming of perceived light intensity, and double vision. The print may even seem to "jump around" when a patient tries to read. These symptoms seem to be due to the referred effect on the eye muscles.

      Ear Symptoms from the Sternocleidomastoid Muscle

      The sternal division can actually create deafness, or decreased ability to hear in the ear on the same side. It can also create a crackling sound, though not usually tinnitus. This is usually associated with the deep division of the masseter muscle(Click here for a picture). The pain that can imitate an ear ache is from the clavicular division. It can also occasional create an "itch" deep in the external ear canal.

  • paula59
    paula59 carol73193

    Posted

    Ive remembered the name of the nerve, its the trigeminal nerve that goes thru the face, behind the eyes, over the forehead and down the back of your head and neck and into the brain stem.  Its the corrugator muscle thats in your forehead and eyes that irritates it.  My cold has nearly gone now and my dizziness etc is much better,back to how it was before the cold.  Not gone but much better.  My headache neurologist has prescribed some new drugs over and above the neurologist I saw last week so will let everyone know when I get them.  They are beta blockers not epilepsy tablets which is better, epilepsy stuff makes you depressed and suicidal.  I was a bit scared of heart tablets till I found out that people with migraine stand a greater chance of having a heart attack.  So they will help in that respect too.
    • carol73193
      carol73193 paula59

      Posted

      Hi Paula. Thanks for that information, i will mention it to nneurologist when i get my appt with them, i got appt today for next week to have MRI csan on brain and neck, have to say quite impressed as didnt see ent until last monday, and got appt for coming wednesday. But dont hold my breath on appt with neurology coming so quickly. Pleased you are feeling much better, and hope it remains that way. X
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