I really need help on this and its serious i have to give up smoking now
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i have to give up smoking now because its making me so ill i am on borderline copd, i have trouble breathing, wheezing a lot , keep getting sore throats, and bad coughing making me thing i have bigger issues like CANCER, i have had a brain tumour i know its not linked but it does scare me a bit, i have allergies so have to be careful what i take to give it up, tried lots of times , but just put on lots of weight, can not have that, i am a woman with eating disorder, so please any help i really need it i am going in to have surgery in october and they will not do it unless i give up smoking, my last chance,
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hypercat jay_babes
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Hi been there etc. I was a heavy smoker for 44 years and managed to give myself copd. Fortunately it is mild but I did manage to give up last year using patches and the white inhalator. I never thought I could. What made the difference for me was joining a quit smoking site. I don't know if there is one on here but I joined the one on the Health Unlocked platform. This is a great site and I got so many positive messages and support that I was able to stop. You don't realise when you smoke how many negative messages others give you such as 'You will never stop' Or 'Are you stupid or something' or even 'Give it up it's easy' The person who said the last one to me nearly got decked but did get the rough edge of my tongue. I did stop once before for 3 and a half months but went back to it. If I hadn't I might not have got copd.
It can be very hard to stop and I am still craving a bit even now but it is doable. Many think that running you down etc. will encourage to you stop - it won't. All it does it make you feel guilty and stupid. The way to get someone to stop is to encourage them and tell them they are strong and you believe in them. It's building them up and not running them down. Good luck. If I can do it then most can. x
jay_babes hypercat
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deanne77778 jay_babes
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I don't advocate smoking, no one would but let's face it, it's an addiction. I had my first ciggy when I was 10 years old, forced into it by my bully of a brother. I am now 72 with manageable COPD and still smoking. Due to the stresses in my life it's impossible for me to give it up plus the fact I enjoy it so much. What I don't understand is that many people on this forum have given up anything from 5 to 20 years ago but they still have COPD. So what's the point in giving up especially at my age? The stress involved would be too much and stress is just one reason for smoking. Answers on a postcard please!!!!
You have so many problems, bless you, all I can say is that you have pointed out that other people have many more problems than our own and I know we all wish you well.
jay_babes deanne77778
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Torro deanne77778
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Maybe I wouldn't give up at your age either, although what is manageable now might not be in a year. Smoking is not the only cause for COPD, so I don't think the length of time that people have stopped has much to do with it or guarantees anything. Some people will get it and some never. Some never smoked, but lived in a polluted area or worked with substances that damaged their lungs.
They do make out nowadays that every illness under the sun seems to be caused by smoking and that I do not buy. I do believe however that it can contribute as our lungs are the filters of our body and damage to them will make it harder for a body to heal from illness in general.
Still, not being able to breath can be a good motivator to stop inhaling any kind of irritants.
I enjoyed smoking as well and it relaxed me when I was stressed. I liked the social aspect of it and still miss that a bit. The whole ritual attached to smoking is what I missed most (I rolled tobacco). Not enough any more to make me start again though. It's for a lot of smokers hard to find something that can replace that. Keeping your hands busy might help. I'm a creative person so for me that worked.
deanne77778 Torro
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How I agree with you Torro, they blame everything on smoking but we all know that air pollution in this country is very bad especially in the cities. What about climate change? They can't blame smokers for that (or can they)? Jay babes, I have heard many times that people who gave up smoking, have then suffered even more chest problems. I kid myself that my lungs would collapse without the tar holding them together! I heard a story about an old lady, 101 years old, who smoked until the day she died and her carers said she was still smoking three days later!!!! Life is very short, the NHS cannot cope and social care for the elderly is failing. I intend to enjoy each day as it comes.
I wish you well Jay babes, you are in an unenviable position bless you.
Vee2 jay_babes
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In addition people with copd that continue to smoke, with each cigarette they smoke more damage to the lungs, more risk of lung infection, more risk of further damage, more risk of reduced quality of life, more risk of dying prematurely than need be, more risk of a very uncomfortable death.
Those are the realities.
When the body has disease of any kind, ie health issues, smoking of any kind is hindering the body to cope with any illness.
But any one can choose to continue to smoke or to stop, it is the individuals choice and their decision is based on what they value the most. Amazing some value smoking over their health and life.
Vee2 deanne77778
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Its your choice deanne, but the point is you have damaged lungs and the more you smoke its more likely you will increase the damage, further damage means more lung infections, more difficulty breathing , loss of quality of life etc etc.
You can say air quality is bad so what's the point !! So if you smoke and the air quality where you live, town, city, country wherever that is, you are doubly increasing your risk of further damage to your lungs.
Jay's post was for help on stopping so reason not to give up may not be helpful to people with damaged lungs and living with long term chronic illnesses.
larry49033 Vee2
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Vee,
I have seen this first hand. When I was small (early 1960s), my 72 yr. old step-grandfather had COPD. Bedridden, on oxygen, and using a nebulizer he still continued to smoke and to drink (GIN). He lived on a Railroad pension and could afford a woman to help him out twice a week. I only got to visit him for a few minutes 2 to 3 times a year.
I too now have COPD and have a clearer understanding of what he suffered. He finally chose to shoot himself in the head rather than continue to live that way.
All the preaching in the world won't make some people change, they must commit to that change because it is what they want to do. Sometimes life and the daily task of ever more difficult routine task weighs the scale in favor of better good sense. Like my step-grandfather, some will never change and they just get worse until they come to the end.
Vee2 larry49033
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I agree Larry it is very sad I've watched too many go too soon because they never gave up the fags soon enough. Granted we have to go sometime, but it awful watching someone deteriorate before your eyes and nothing any one can say will prevent that happening. It is down to individual's choices.
That's awful your step grandfather shot himself. Have to say some deteriorate to the point of not having the breath to get out of bed, go to the toilet so reaching for a gun wouldn't have been possible aside from the fact most in UK don't own one.
I hope you are managing to stay stable larry.
Best wishes V
Vee2
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deanne77778 Vee2
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Vee, I find your responses to most posts on this forum, rather sanctimonius. Of course you are mostly correct but life isn't isn't like that is it? If we all lived life to the letter this world would be a much better place. But we all have our weaknesses and Jay has an awful lot to deal with. Empathy goes a long way these days.
Vee2 deanne77778
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deanne77778 --
Regardless of your views of my posts this is a support forum, Jay was asking for help in stopping smoking and there is no way justifying smoking on a COPD forum helpful regardless if you or any one else thinks there no point in stopping smoking. I have said precisely how it is, the choice is the individuals.
As far as valuing our lungs and health are concerned regarding smoking with a diagnosis of COPD that also is down to individual choice. We mostly all know its difficult to stop smoking, we've mostly all been there. In addition its a serious life threatening consequence of continuing to smoke with COPD or any other progressive or chronic illness.
You may feel its too late for you but be aware not every one is of your age or your views. Hopefully there are many who are not of the same mind as you and they will want to preserve their lung health and quality of life and not risk having a shorter expiry date.
Vee2 jay_babes
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Wishing you every success in achieving smoke free and success for your pending operation, a good recovery and better health in the future.
Best wishes V
jay_babes
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