I really need help on this and its serious i have to give up smoking now

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i have to give up smoking now because its making me so ill i am on borderline copd, i have trouble breathing, wheezing a lot , keep getting sore throats, and bad coughing making me thing i have bigger issues like CANCER, i have had a brain tumour i know its not linked but it does scare me a bit, i have allergies so have to be careful what i take to give it up, tried lots of times , but just put on lots of weight, can not have that, i am a woman with eating disorder, so please any help i really need it i am going in to have surgery in october and they will not do it unless i give up smoking, my last chance, frownfrownsad

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    Before you’re subjected to any unkindness in replies, with regard to you being a smoker, I strongly suggest you get a large vaper device. Theres  a decent article in New Scientist which says this type is the most successful in smoking cessation. Better than any patches, nicotine gum, talkatherapy, etc.

    Public Health England strongly supports hospitals allowing patients to use e-cigs in special rooms, instead of going out of their   way to punish smokers by denying operations when the fact you are a smoker is not a good medical reason to deny treatment.  Sadly, the UK has become a very malicious,  finger-pointing nation.

    Just see those guys in the high street that sell the vaper devices. They, though experience, will really help.

    Best of luck, mate.

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      Hi thank you for being so understanding it is not easy seeing  as i have been smoking since i was 17 when i left home i am 54 now and not for the want of trying to give up , when i was smoking at 17 it was popular everyone did it , now it is horrible , bad for health ,bad for others and stinks, and makes everything brown , not just your lungs,but what i really hate the most i enjoy it so much, it relaxes me, calms my nerves, and really helps my anxiety, like what you said, and of cause do not forget the expense, i could of have lots more holidays that do the same!!, but now i have to be serious now i have other issues, and i like to include dilys message to me on this , she is completely right to a little harsh but you need this when your dealing with a life changing illness, but i have to also be harsh with dilys message too, though i have a friend also with the same thing she has so i see it first hand, she said i should not worry about putting on a little weight when i mentioned there is no way i want that to happened as i have eating disorders, but if you read my page on it you would realise this is a killer too, so i have a choice of 2 evils, oh sorry phil have not forgot you, about the vapour i was about to buy one on wednesday till i read that they is big concerns about these now, i read that though they have no tar in then the nicotine may cause lung cancer, so i read lots more , and it kept coming up the same, so i am more confused than ever, i wish i could be like my dad, he smoked for over 40yrs, and woke up one morning and decided no more and he never did, he will be 79 in october, love him x
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    I'm going to be a bit harsher than phill your options are don't give up smoking get worse breathing and have copd or give up smoking and put on a bit of weIght and I know what I would rather have I am stage 4 copd and belive me I would do anything to not have to live this way can't even brush my own hair without casping for breath can't walk more than a few feet before I have to stop even making a cup of tea gets me so breathless I have to sit down in the middle of making it so if you on the border line of copd and you have to give up.smoking theres your answer

    Give up or get worse give up put weight on I gave up 10 years ago and if was the hardest thing I have ever done but if can do it anyone can the only problem was I gave up too late you have the chance now take it do it and have a healthier life sorry to nag but I know what it's like to live with copd and to put it bluntly and clearly IT'S HELL

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      yes that was harsh and i understand why and i feel for you i have a friend  in the boat and i see it first hand and it breaks my heart, but if you read my post on my eating disorder you would realise that this is a killer too, and not something that you just get over, and you never say to someone who has this problem get over it and what is a few pounds to put on, so sorry you see i have 2 choices and they are both horrific, so if i could beat both i would be one happy lady 
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      I do understand can you not get help with your eating problem then maybe everything else will fall into place
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      It is a very long complicated history i have but i am getting through it i am going to see a CARA counsellor this monday , so i hope this is my start to a healthy me 
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    Hi,

    I understand you are between a rock and a hard place. If you stop smoking you might gain more weight, if you don't stop you will severely speed up the effects of the COPD and won't be able to breath in the end.

    Being obese has its own health concerns, like heart issues, diabetes, circulation problems and much much more, and those can be very frightening too.

    Sometimes it's as if we can't win.

    Maybe you have to ask yourself what you fear most. Which health problems would make your life worse. Weigh things up. If you gained more weight would it endanger your life greatly or would the fact that you stopped smoking counteract the ill effects of the weight gain. Or would staying a bit more slim help you breathing better. Do you understand where I'm going with this? Finding the lesser of two evils. Not easy, believe me I know.

    I smoked since I was 16 and am now 58. I stopped smoking 19 months ago. I tried to stop several times in my life, but I never had the same motivation as I had after being diagnosed with COPD.

    Strangely enough I didn't find it as hard this time and wished I had been able to stop years ago. Not that that would have been a guarantee, but still.

    I have two daughters in their twenties and when I thought of them having to be without their mother at still a too young age in my opinion was just something I could not do to them, nor to my husband of 31 years. I don't know why I couldn't stop before. Why didn't I stop when I got my babies, why didn't I stop when my specialist told me my Crohns would get better if I did, why didn't I stop after an uncle and an aunt died of lung cancer.....An addict will always have excuses. I had plenty of them.

    When I stopped though (cold turkey this time. I tried the e-cig, hypnotherapy, acupuncture, chewing gum) very quickly my smokers cough went away. I still had a cough, but not as bad as I used to. I started to look better, feel better, my skin looked better, less tired somehow. So very soon I felt and saw the benefits. Maybe not all of them having a big impact on the COPD, but all together they made me feel better in general. And that in itself can help you coping a bit better with other things.

    It is frightening, but there is a lot of support on this forum. We might not always be happy with the things we least want to hear, but sometimes we do need to hear it.

    I wish you strength.

     

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      Thank you so much for your advice and comments , i have a lot to think about and take in, i am no stupid i know how much i am putting my health at risk but it is not as simple as just giving up as i keep telling people i have a severe eating disorder , and that is a killer to and i have been trying to fight that since i was 17, so just gaining a few pounds to someone like me is a nightmare in itself , so i am getting help , but it is not an over night thing, but i do appreciate the help and advice i get from this forum
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    Unsure if you are UK or other country but there must be something similar in other countries as in UK.

    So if you are serious about quitting;

    1st chat with you doctor, your surgery may even have a cessation clinic/

    2nd Check out and join the UK site quit . org  they have a quit helpline

    3rd  Allen Carr - stop smoking video -  Check  on you tube 

    Stopping smoking the psychology of it is the key in my opinion, we make choices in life, to live the way we want, you can make the decision to stop smoking or you can decide to keep giving in to the voice in your head.  You can keep making that decision to not smoke whenever the voice or craving reminds you to smoke.  Just keep saying no to the smokes.

    If you work on the psychology you are less likely to replace one habit with another.

    Allan Carr explains.

    I give up without any aids over 12 years ago,  I just kept saying no to smokes and kept reminding myself my lung health is more important, smoking just keeps on damaging my lungs and puts my heart at risk as well as risking stomache mouth, throat cancer, even vaping is not good in my opinion.

    You don't mention have been diagnosed with COPD?  but even if you haven't you are still at risk of those things I have mentioned above.

    Below a coupld of patient UK links for you:

    https://patient.info/health/quit-smoking-cessation

    https://patient.info/forums/discuss/browse/smoking-2066

    Wishing you every success in becoming a non smoker  smile

    Probably the best decision you will ever make concerning your health overall.

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      Thanks i am in the uk and the doctors are having a hard time with me as i have lots of illnesses , they have to be careful what i take i have severe allergies , but if i do give up and i am determined i will probably have to go cold turkey and that will be really tough 
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      Cold turkey is the way, its tough for everyone, but its doable if you are determined.  1st 3 weeks the worse but after that you just keep saying to yourself, I did one day I can do another, then I stayed smoke free 5 days I can stay smoke free another 5 days and so on.  Drink water, do breathing exercises eat oranges.  Us the mind to focus on what you are achieving by stopping smoking disregard the mind chatter that keeps saying I want one I need one, you are in control of not smoking, I you choose it smoking will not be in control of you.   Hope you will check out those things that people have suggested may help.

      make a list of the advantages and disadvantages.  Hope you will choose to help your body towards wellness.

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      Thanks I  am so grateful for your advice and help , would be great if they just did not sell cigarettes at all, lol
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      you would still go through same withdrawal Jay - just think of it as wanting to be kind to yourself, your body your wellbeing, helping yourself to better health.  Smoking is not doing that, its hurting your body and your future wellbeing.  The withdrawal symptoms will pass and using the mind to say no to smokes will make the choices easier as time passes.

       

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      Thanks again i just get into my gym and hit the punch bag lol,as my other half says his staying as far away from me as possible, he has been told what people are like when they come off smoking, i know what it was like when he came off weed 20yrs ago !!
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    Hello,

    I smoked for 45 years. I fought quitting for years, until I came face to face with myself. Cigarettes ruled my life. They dictated how I lived my life. They had me spending money that I could not afford to spend and they had given me Stage 3 Copd. 

    I had tried patches gum, and other devices to help me to quit on numerous occasions, yet none really worked. I had to get to the core of the addiction and deal with it. I had to gather the discipline needed to say no to smoking, any smoking,.and to stick with it. The first few weeks were the hardest to get through, but I had got rid of every trace of tobacco (including butts) and armed myself with sugarless hard candy, rice cakes, as well as a pantry full of healthy foods. I tried to avoid sugar in my diet by drinking a lot of water. Also, I did snack a bit, but that was a temp. help with the cravings. 

    I missed holding, fondling, and placing a cigarette in my mouth, plastic straws helped me. After I got through the initial nicotine withdrawal it got easier, but I had want it and had to commit to quitting.

    For me, quitting boiled down to this: Who would rule my life, me or the cigarettes?

    We are all different, but I'm still convinced that one can't quit an addiction like cigarettes until one wins the mental battle first.

    Good luck to you.

     

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      Thank you for taking time and understanding where i am coming from, i have so many illnesses and problems that the doctors have to be careful on what to do with me when it comes to giving me any medication, incase one causes major problems with the other, i know i have to give up, apart from having my mouth taped up, and to my family that would be a god send lol,it is going to be really tough,but i have got through a brain tumour so i think i can get through this, again thanks
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