I want to give up.

headaches are the norm gs mine is booming and ive been a shaking mess this morning x

you ok toria? very shakey today myself x

not really lovely had a horrendous morning zero energy terrible nausea banging head racing thoughts fear and anxiety, bloody horrible isnt it! are you feeling any better than yesterday? x

Hey toria! Sorry to hear.

Im feeling off and slept a lil better.

I got that low feeling with the anxiety lurking around.

Its not fun . I feel so awful for my life .

Thanks!

yay gs hold on to the fact that you slept better 😃 and keep reminding yourself that this isnt forever because it really isnt x

Yeah i know. i think my problem is so apathetic to do much .

My mood is very low and just dont feel like much.

so what do you do to fill your days? i know the feeling i have zero energy but know sitting around just makes things worse x

Yeah i know toria. I get out time to time but tend to lounge around a lot.

Im not that active toria .

I feel so low today and weirded out.

have you ever felt better after being out? have you any parks or quiet places near because sometimes alot of people can be too stimulating x

i feel like a big scream is in order

my mornings are horrific atm I know exactly how you feel x

Yes, mornings are the worst. I think what makes it harder is that at night you get a little reprieve and you hope and pray that it carries on through to the next day, and it doesn't. Just hold on tight everybody,it's a bumpy ride.

thanks Axl it getting harder each day atm x

it wont stay like that forever potato, been there, done that, started feeling better then back there again, remember ssri's have worked for you in the past x

thanks toria x I'm at an all time low and I'm sure you are the same right now lovely x

Yeah potato i can relate to you buddy.

I been laying around a lot like a root .

I cant get going and feelings of low and anxious feelings there as well.

Sorry to hear all this buddy.

Thanks!

scream lynn .many times i go and scream my butt off.for relief!lol

gs where you at in the usa.

how is your anxiety at the minute? any luck with it settling down?

minute by minute p x

can it take longer than 6 weeks on a raised dose to work

the minutes drag on for soooooo long lol

how u feeling this evening lovely? hope it's been a little easier for you tonight x

it can take an awful lot longer in some cases. 12 weeks is standard. some people are lucky and get better a lot sooner but not many x

LOIS , I START CBT theraphy for anxiety, with LUVOX i have been only taking .25 klonopin. you scream did it help relieve some of the anxiety

AXLE, We have the same last name. I'm on the ssri luvox for anxiety and intrusive thoughts. Did it take a while for the antidepressant to kick in

yes mam.is better than crying most folks cry i screamed.hopefully it works for you.i had no luck with cbt acupuncture the only thing that work for me is i found a therapist who made me understand the meds and what the symptoms and side effects where. everything i was feeling was definitely chemical either from meds or naturally .iam so glad thats all behind me.

Yes, Lynn. Unfortunately it took quite a while for me. About 12 weeks on an effective dose (75mg for me). My stupid problem is that I kept taking myself off the damn things, lol. But, to make it quite clear, I had both severe depression and anxiety, so you may react faster than I did. We are all different. Lot's of support in this forum. You'll get through this with everybody here helping out...

crying helps so much as it releases dopamine scream if you want to but crying always makes me feel better x

cbt helped me to think right i would recommend it but it doesnt work for all x

tori did you have nightmres on mirtazaoine

only on higher doses and when withdrawing lynn x

I did when I was on 30mg of mirtazipine

they were horrible. but they weren't all the time just occasionally x

how did you reduce off mirt i am on 3/4 of a 15mg pill

why do you want to come off it lynn? x

started having horrible nightmares this week, reduced from 15 to 10 6 weeks ago . also on the ssri luvox. why did you go off tori

Hey toria! Struggling today as well.

I feel like doing nothing and my mind is racy and heart racy.

I dont know how to go on like this.

I didnt sleep as good either.

How you doing potato?

Thanks!

lynn it could be start ups that to be honest i wouldnt change anything else until youre stable, i went off twice as cbt worked for depression, the third time is a long long story x

bless you, can you try and do a small task at home trust me it helps x

I was having such a bad reaction to it the got me off straight away. I was extremely lucky because I didn't have many withdrawals

coming off citalopram has been a lot harder for me

keep going gs remember the post i sent you.

compare how you feel now to when you started. what's different?

tori i have been on it for 7 months

Um honestly not that much potato.

I feel like im not making that much progress.

My.mind is not at ease at and low moods.

I also thinking i cant do much at all.

remember it's still really early. you're not half way yet. think of all the improvement you can make in that time. it gets harder before it gets better. you are doing really well to stick with it so long.i want to give

up but we have to keep going if we want to get better buddy x

You'll get there gs. I am having a tough time right with you. I know though that the only way I'm going to know if it works is to give it enough time. I know it's really rough. Hand in there....

yes lynn but youve added things and changed doses x

tori you would stay on the 10mg and not go off yet

how long have you been on the ssri? x

6 months reduced from 15mgs down to 12mgs a month ago no side effects. taking 7.5 tonight

thats your choice lynn just be careful as once off the insomnia will hit x

why did you go off

because i didnt need it anymore, a lot of people only use them short term as a crutch x

were the withdrawals bad. ive been on seven months never got above 15. went down to 12.5 for a month. Last night did 7.5, will stay here for a month

lynn it varies from person to person and different situations, the first 2 times i was on them a few years and it was easy the third time was on them short term and it was hard for about 4 months x

Whats considered a bad reaction to the med?

you have withdrawal and startups simple as that x

swelling or diffucult breathing are considered allergic reactions with ssri.

Hey toria! Cant sleep was crying and pouting night.

I dont know anymore .

pouting? x

Hey toria ! it more like panting and crying and i get frowning facial expression.

Thanks!

like a baby?

its just panic gs dont worry, does it come in waves? x

Yeah then i feel like exhausted cant do anything feeling which i have now.

Thanks!

honestly lovely i had that then it basically went until the faulty bottle, it will go just try to keep positive, in withdrawal its like your brain needs to learn what emotions are right and wrong and you have to help teach it x

Yeah im having trouble being positive is all.

I think thats a issue as well toria as you know.

I feel like this and then complain.

Im sorry to hear that happen to you .

Thanks!

it will all pass gs you arent broken dont worry x

Thanks toria! its just so hard when you feel like this daily and your life is on hold so to speak.

Thanks!

What i really dislike is how i am not doing much daily at all which not good due to the feelings.

Thanks!

youre welcome, do try to do things and once you start you will see nothing bad happens x

hey toria! i know never been so like unmotivated and just lethargic as can be.

Thanks!

Not sleeping well either .

What do you suggest?

I was sleeping better and doing more stuff despite my anxiety and now this feeling of rubbish.

Thanks!

this is when you need to force yourself to do things that are tough. lying around in bed all day is not gonna help bud.

you need to force yourself into uncomfortable situations and each time you do it will become slightly easier. the lethargic feeling will pass but you need to keep pushing until it does. fresh air is your friend. instead of resting in bed, rest in the garden or at the park. in the fresh air.when you

put yourself in a situation where the anxiety is high you will realise that nothing has happened. then eventually your mind will stop seeing it as a threat.

look at toria. when she feels crap she goes to the golf course and pushes through

do things that will make you more tired so you fall asleep easier x you still on the 50mg?

Hey potato! i understand my buddy.

I am trying and now i getting head throbs and feeling sick my buddy.

I am very frustrated like this buddy.

How you been?

Thanks!

My anxiety is eh but my symptoms are bad with no energy and my head throbbing.

It seems like one thing after another.

Thanks!

i know gs i was diagnosed with chronic fatigue but now think it was the ssri's x

aw bless you P 😃 youre spot on with your advice there x

i know what it feels like to be bombarded with symptoms it sucks, none of this can harm you remember that x

Hey toria! i know but it is enough so you dont feel well at all and make you say stuff to family.

Its like you dont wanna do anything but you wanna enjoy life so much.

Thanks!

how are you feeling ?

I use to exercise a lot and was in good shape and enjoyed exercise classes.

Now i can barely get myself going during any day.

Thanks!

i know gs i know trust me x

youll get back to the gym but the less you do now the harder it will be x

I do go but with no energy and my attitude is not good on life now you know toria.

Its like i just wanna feel like me again.

I feel so lethargic and head sensations and stuff.

I having hard time toria.

how you today?

aw bless you i know gs, i went through all that and there again now but please try to not get frustrated, its gets you nowhere, you cant rush this, all you can do is be good to yourself and help it along, youve done well youve toughed it out this long and believe me i know how hard it is i really do! ive had a really tough week this week but trying to crack on as normally as i can no matter what x

Hey toria ! i know i just feel it and tell my family my frustration as well.

Its gotten bad though toria as my head hurts and not myself anymore.

I went out but my friend is concerned for me and thinks i am in rough shape.

Thanks!

I think i felt low and headache and stuff to go with it.

I never felt this way before in my life.

Its just unreal to say the least.

Thanks!

Im crying and migraine headache as well.

Thanks!

Its the low moods now getting me as of late. Crying and stuff still badly.

Thanks!

Should i wait on the zoloft.

I been feeling worse than ever and my family keep sending them text that i cant go on like this .

Thanks!

gs even if you want of zoloft you will have to wait until youre more stable lovely as stopping again will make you feel worse x

Yeah i know. i just feel awful on this or whatever it is.

I feel like i cant sleep or do much.

I also using restroom a lot now.

I dont like this and was crying last night and this morning.

Thanks!

Yeah well i know toria!

Its just im not feeling well and mind is so racy and stuff. I cant think straight.

Thanks!

does anyone feel like there body is internally shaking

Hey lynn i feel not that great at all.

Um i dont get that but do get a lot of other stuff .

Thanks!

i had internal shakes /tremors for about three months.it will subside plus i had pulsating temples it also subsided.

Hey lois! Im not that great today.

I have that pulsating head too.

My family wants to make a choice saying im not functioning well daily.

Thanks!

hang on gs .all those side effects means the meds are working.

gs my mind is crazy today and have so many symptoms its unreal but yesterday i wasnt this bad its just the way it goes x

yes lynn totally normal x

Hey Toria! What you feeling ?

Sorry to hear that.

Im feeling head pulses headaches and just feel mood low.

Um my family thinks im not functioning normally.

I guess because i complain how i feel and not active enough. I say i cant take it anymore .

They want me to change things up.

Thanks!

Yeah lois it is hard believe me.

I feel so headachey and pain.

Um What do you say to family that they wanna make decisions for me.

They say im functioning at low level .

It is kind of true as i not doing much now lois.

I guess it very worrisome to my family as they think it might escalate to something bad.

Thanks!

have you been taking your benzo??

I feel down more than up now lois its weird .

Its like the anxiety is there in background then the low moods and feelings take over the rest of day.

I also feel throbbing headaches too.

I need to get out of resting mode.

That seems like all i wanna do now feeling this way .

My family says im in crisis due to this low moods and stuff.

Thanks!

lois did your anxiety last for months

8long months.unfortunately

if you change you start again gs x

its all the changes that have caused this x

Yeah i know . So what do i do?

Im in pain and getting all kinds of symptoms toria.

Itd getting harder each day .

I did get out but i lay around a bit much and get agitated and worked up.

Cant sleep much as of late so im a walking zombie.

I just feel my head throbbing and get the thoughts and voices as well.

I get crying spells too which happens when i get all this and scares me.

What do you think is going on here?

Thanks!

My family wants me to do something for myself like group therapy .

Thanks!

I wish i never went on these meds.

If i knew i feel this bad.

This is torture toria.

These people make a lot of money from our suffering.

Thanks!

i know gs try and stick it out its withdrawal and start ups x

thats why i always say if aint severe depression or anxiety there is no need for ssris.

Hey i know lois!

I did have anxiety before the meds but now i got a lot of other things going on i meant.

I got stuff i never had before and is scary.

Thanks!

was you anxiety severe before meds.what was the cause of the anxiety before meds.you say you had worriess ?worries about what?

Hey toria! Yeah i know. Its the symptoms causing me lots of distress.

Thanks!

you mean the side effects not the symptoms.

Hey i had a lot of stress about changes in life and stuff.

I was feeling it a bit to try meds again.

Its just the drama and agony with

these is unreal.

Im just saying im now worse than ever and its not good.

I was never in a point of my family wants to put me in crisis mode.

Hey lois ! Its the symptoms causing me more distress than ever.

Its really not good. I dont wanna leave house or even bed now .

I was in

i hate to say it . changes in life are natural and ssri are not a way to try and cheat your natural changes .these are powerful drugs and unless it is severe than i say go for it .i have a friend who has natural anxiety over life with her children her husband etc.but i be dam if i suggested to her to take an antid.med for relief.

iam not Condemning ssri i for one need them for the rest of my life .my situation before meds was severe.

Im not either lois .I wasnt that great before meds and now i feel like a lot of symptoms.

Your very helpful to me to understand the symptoms.

Im in bed a lot now lois feeling sick today.

Thanks!

I mean the side effects lois .

the only way your going to reduce the side effects is to preservere.

Yeah i know lois. It just been so hard on me.

All i wanna do is lay around and i feel like nothing.

I also get the thoughts and voices as well lois and this scares me into not wanna do much as well.

I also dont wanna drive anymore.

Thanks!

My family hates to see me this way.

They wanna do something to help but cant.

They want me get help i guess from where i dont know.

Thanks!

the only thing that can help you right now is the sertraline.plus this forum.you have already recieve help .so you have been on antd.before with sucess?correct me if im wrong?

Yeah lois ! A long while back lois.

I know lois but i keep texting family and i keep laying around as well.

Im scared of something i guess.

I wasnt like this before . Im neglecting myself i notice lack of focus and interest.

Thanks!

are u in the usa?i forgot

Yeah lois !

lois my family wants me to do things different as they dont see me getting well.

They suggest stuff like group therapy and other stuff as well.

Im home today now laying here .

I get the weirded out feelings and thoughts too lois.

Thanks!

something is better than nothing

you just need to push yourself simple as that! ive had 2 of the worst days so far and still got out and about x

Yeah i know but i feel so like i cant because i feel icky and have thoughts and other stuff.

I feel low and just blah and stuff toria.

How you feeling and what you feeling?

Thanks!

Toria i think im scared of my thoughts and stuff and low mood so i just veg out.

I do get out but only if someone goes with me.

Thanks!

Hey toria u ever have bad thoughts and halls ?

I think part of my issue is that and the other is lack of motivation and migraine headaches.

Thanks!

yes i have them constantly lately x

Hey toria! im getting audible hallucinations i think .

I get these with the bad thoughts so i have trouble dealing with this.

today i had horrible anxiety from getting new license.but i Plowed thru with those long lines and finish .i had no choice.so at times gs if you dont push your self the anxiety side effects of the ssri will get the best of you.

Yeah i know lois! I um got you there but these effects are tough on me lois as i dont wanna be like this.

I hit my head out of frustration today.

I get halluncinations and stuff and thoughts.

gs symptoms are magnified by a thousand when starting or withdrawing from a med so its nothing like normal anxiety, thats why its tough but with all the dose changes youve done you now sound like youre sensitive to med changes like me, today ive had

anger

fear

racing thoughts

shivers

migraine

tearful

shakes

leg pain

back pain

shoulder pain

nausea

burning up

dizziness

repetative songs in head

anxiety

depression

racing heart

insomnia

exhaustion

ive probably forgotten a few but thought id let you know you arent alone! unfortunately any changes wont help just cracking on no matter how hard it is x

Hey toria! im in rough shape .

I even hit my head .

I want my life back.

I also get halluncinations .

Sorry to say .

Is Zoloft for me ?

I cant barely function anymore.

Thanks!

Did you have a recent follow up with your doctor?

Hey toria! i know not like normal anxiety . I didnt mind normal anxiety .

Have you seen your doctor recently?

What did he say or think about all this?

gs even if its not for you youre still going to feel bad for a while stopping unfortunately no quick solution or magic pill to stop this x

trust me i know the side effects are brutal.that is why you have to be able to distinguish the difference between what anxiety you had before meds to what you have now .aside from the side effects.do you feel any relief from initial symptoms of anxiety.i know i felt relief from my initial anxiety symptoms fairly within weeks .it was the side effects that linger for 8months for me.

is crazy how doctors dont believe all the dreadful side effects we experience on these meds.or perhaps they do know but brush it off as our fault .go figure

Yeah i know . They wanna put me in crisis.

I had a meltdown.

I dont know toria and lois.

Thanks!

Yeah its the side effects that bother me for real.

I get stuff bothering me and just not well feeling.

Thanks!

go to crisis is not bad i been there before.

What you do there lois?

I had a meltdown and its the side effects like agitation and just unwell.

Thanks!

they will give your meds .you talk to a phychiatrist about your issues. monitor you in a community setting.they will keep you for 72hours.and feed you three times a day.

are you still taking benzo ?i forgot which one are you taking.because you should see if doc changes benzo to xanex.i had to change valium to xanex .the valium was not that effective for me.

Hey im on klonopin lois.

So what made you go in there lois?

Thanks!

I haveny been sleeping good.

I get to sleep and then wake right up.

Um yeah my family worried .

The Zoloft seems very stimulating. like a upper high too much.

Thanks!

Hey lois! Did you ever get scary thoughts or halluncinations audio?

Thanks!

i went to crisis because my stupid gp did not warn me about the withdrawls.so i panic.n went no big deal.just a big bill.i had audio n hallucinations from the horrible withdrals

sertraline is good for depression.so stimulating .anxiety sufferers do well on the ones that are sedating.

Yeah lois so im on zoloft and still

feel this way now.

Im on edge daily.

What you suggest?

Did they crisis help you in anyway?

Yeah i been getting scarey side effects and hate to say it i hit my head becsuse i get so tired of the feeling.

And im.not sleeping well at all.

I slept better on others at least.

Thanks!

That sucks i think i hearing voices too.

This is all too much for me.

I never have this bad stuff before ugh.

Thanks!

the crisis just help me all around.i didnt feel alone when i was at crisis.all though i have a husband been at the crisis with doctors just seem the right thing to do at the time.

Did they help with meds or what?

Thanks!

its withdrawal ive never taken zoloft and my sleep is terrible x

im only going to say this once more gs its withdrawal, and for a lot of people all ssri,s are stimulating hence why most take them in the morning!!! no new drug will help, you need to settle then decide what to do x

i would suggest if you are not sleeping well get a sleep aid from doctor.that will help with the so call stimulating effects you are having from the sert.and all your withdrawls issues.

and all your withdrawal issues that keep you from sleeping.

Yeah i know! Im just not doing well though toria.

Im feeling awful and telling family stuff and acting not good.

I also think i hearing things so everyone is so concern.

I feel it again today waking and feel very not myself..

I was unstable yesterday and family called crisis on me .

Thanks!

I dont like the way im acting and my family is concern.

Um im laying around and just feeling unwell.

My family wants me to make a decision and think im not capable of this.

Thanks!

What did the crisis told yout family ???

For myself, going to crisis helped me . I was surround, support and it was sort of reassuring. After that, they gave me a referencd for a group therapy that really helped.

Yeah i think they want me to do something like that.

I just dont like the way i feel and feel awful .

My head is killing me and im acting not good toria .

I actually was acting out on my family since i got annoyed and agitated by them.

go to crisis gs it also help me.perhaps you can get answers from few phychiatrist that work there.

Yeah im not in a good place .

I think its like everyone dont get it.

They want me do something since im acting out badly.

Thanks!

Yeah i know lois. im not the worst anxiety now but still feeling side effects and other stuff.

I feel like i am losing it.

I acting different and just not me.

Thanks!!

Yes, you have side effects but I think your anxiety and depression symptoms are pretty high.

So, will you go to crisis?????

I think you should.

I see what they say to me.

Im scared of the way i feel lolita.

Im very not myself your right.

I also think i hearing things now.

Thanks!

Gs, take your courage and go to crisis.

It will be a first step that you make for yourself.

Give us news.

what side effects did you get lois

Hey toria! how you doing?

I know its from all that stuff but i feel so out of it.

I just dont like the feelings toria.

Thanks!

hallucinations/headaches/internal shakes/visual disturbances/pain that move from one part of body to the other.insomnia/irratability/large pupils/fatigue/numbness thru out my body/felt medicated for many months/heart palps/uncontrollable adrenaline/jaw pain/clogged ears/night mares/extreme anxiety/

That sounds like me.

those feeling are definitely meds related.that is not your normal anxiety trust and believe.the doctors may try to convince you that they are.but they are NOT!

at least to me i knew the they where side effects so i plow on.

I do trust and believe. What can you do ?

Its a challenge to deal with daily lois.

My head is pounding and my mind is racing.

So can all this be from meds?

Im confused what to do then lois.

I do feel so sick today.

Thanks!

well i knew after reading thru this forum and a therapist that told me so that they where side effects/withdrawls

So am i in crisis from the meds then ?

This is so wrong lois.

I loved my life now im feeling like awful daily and dont know if i wanna be like this.

Thanks!

Yeah true ! What therapist told you that?

Im not well lois . I feel like im losing control lois .

Im feeling awful and confused in my life .

My therapist thinks its all in my head.

Um Lois im in bed today and mind is just unwell .

I think i hear things?

Not really anxious but more like low and tired feelings.

Thanks!

i dont know what kind if therapist told you that .but my old therapist knew all the pros n cons of these meds she knew i was not making things up.after her telling me that it will all subside got me thinking more positive .it it werent for this forum n my phychiatrist and old therapist i would of gone insane.thank god that they where able to make me realize that it wasnt just me.it was a combination of meds /withdrawls /side effects /n some natural anxiety.when i say natural i mean a few symptoms of anxiety.not the horrific side effects of ssri.

Any advice for me? I feel like im losing lois im scared.

I still cant cope with the effects or whatever happening to me .

What you think?

Thanks!

Im starting to act weird and not coping well at all .

I know what you mean and im still feeling it.

You seem to be only one who understands.

I thought of giving up too lois. I having trouble coping.

Thanks!

I feel wired but tired lois.

You ever hear things too?

Am im losing?

Thsnks!

listen gs ive tried to help numerous times but you dont take any advice, im in hell myself but still trying to help others get through it, all crisis will do is watch you and maybe change your meds! x

Hey toria! You helping but im not coping well is all im saying

sorry.

I just wanna feel decent one day.

My family dont know what to do either.

Thanks!

All i been doing is not much at all .

I listen but still so hard.

I um hearing the voices too .

Thsnks!

for all we know that dosage is too high for your sensitive nervous system.i know for me 20 celexa was Horrendous.10 did the trick

um yeah its 50 mg Zoloft suppose to be low dose.

Its very stimulating and i feel it.

Lois im in a pinch here and my life is over feeling sickly daily like this.

Thsnks!

thats what everyone said about me lowering my dose that it was too low of a dosage.my phychiatrist states that any dosage could be the therapeutic dose.

My docs and psych wants me on 100 mg.

Thanks!

if youre sensitive to dose changes any changes you do will initially only make things worse, plus everything you describe is what i have and im reducing citalopram and never touched what youre on, you keep blaming the new med but if you go on surviving antidepressants you will see plenty of similar stories x

now would you know if lowering or upping dosage is going to relief side effects only your body will decide that.

up dosage or lower dosage what have you got to loose.

Yes i understand that toria.

What should i do about this now?

I have nobody on my side toria.

I get what you saying.

Thanks!

gs im doing the only thing i can do and staying on this dose until i can cope with dropping at the moment as everything will get so much worse x

Yes sure toria!So i stick out the zoloft for now.

My head is so bad today.

I split my dose to 50 mg is what i take .

Thanks!

gs at the end of the day its your choice what you do all i can say is what im doing to keep myself safe as i simply couldnt cope with feeling much worse and from what ive read, seen and heard no doctors understand withdrawal and always put it down to original illness they even tried that with me except i never had anxiety until all this the fools x

Hey toria! i was never this sick either toria.

I feel so much head pain today and feel so low.

I was never this bad toria and lois.

I feel like terrible toria.

I just went out and still feel it.

Thanks!

Im having trouble coping with this toria .

Thanks!

The only issue is im crying daily and feel sick daily.

My family is very worried lois and toria.

They dont understand the meds.

They want me switch to another one.

I feel like awful and they think i might be harmful to self.

Thanks!

Hey i understand all the above.

What you think stay on zoloft or what?

I am suffering badly .

Thanks!

gs, you really seem like your in some crisis...

Everyday for the past weeks, month, you tell us and ask us the same questions.

I really understand your struggle and I know you want to feel better.

To my opinion, you really should check in for crisis and ask to be support etc.

We can give you all our advises but if you really dont feel well and think you can be harmful to self, then dont hesitate.

But stop waiting and do it. I think you need that reassurance to be surround by a medical team.

We all have good advices but it can happen that a med is not a good fit for you. We dont know. Of course there is bad doctors but all of them are not all bad. You dont have to take many pills but only a good one that fits you.

I read almost every day and I see your struggle, you panic and depression in what I read....You really should listen to family and check in.

Yeah i know lolita! What will they do for me ?

Im scared of hospital.

Thanks!

what are you scare about???

I mean , you are probably more scare of how you feel now at your house.

At least, they will monitor you revise if the med is okay for you, keep track of your symptoms and if you have questions and worries, they can help and reassure.

I did this for 2 weeks. I helped me a lot.

call your family and ask them to go with you and explain them everything you feel , think, etc

listen to lolita gs.i stay in crisis for six days and it was so helpful.a hospital setting is way better than your apt.for now anyway.

the hospital is not what you think gs.it may sound like a bunch of nut cases in there.but it aint nothing like that.

Yes you ate absolutly right lois!

When someone needs it, there is no shame!

Its just the symptoms i scared of having in the hospital.

Is it ok the klonopin to take ?

why ate you scare to have the symptoms in hospital? I mean thats okay to have it there. That way, those profesionnals can help you good. If you keep hiding your symptoms to doctor, how do you want them to help. They will help.

Why wouldnt be okay to take klonopin ? Do you still take it? How much per day and whats your hours intake???

gs, you really have to help yourself for once and go ask for help.

Your family wants you to do it.

Take your courage and ask them to drive you there. Its okay! It would be a start.

You are not functionning since a while, you keep on getting bad symptoms, you feel depress and so anxious....I mean, you need it.

I dont wanna tell them my symptoms as they think im losing myself.

I get scary thoughts and halls.

Thanks!

Oh please gs.... you never had that before so thats a good reason to tell them. And they may see that this med is messing with you or maybe they will just reassure that its all anxiety relate.

Thats their job. not yours!

Trust and go!!!

Do you really want to know whats going on? Do you really want to heal and recover? Do you really want to have the good med for you ? If so, go!!!

Its been soooo long since each of your days you are suffering. I mean you deserve better, no!???

Everyone keep pushing you but you dont. You need to take that action for you wellbeing!

Hey Lolita! I never had these symptoms this bad before meds is the honest truth.

I had my issues dont get me wrong but not like this bad that i needed crisis.

I wanted to go on the med to help my anxiety now its worse and didnt have depression and that is worst.

Thanks!

Yeah, I understand all that gs.

Now, whats your plan !?

Hey toria!

How are you doing today?

iam doing well gs.thanks for asking lol

Hows toria?

I feel like eh. I feel i slept a bit more.

Thanks!

Hey what do you suggest for meds?

Im on zoloft 50 mg for 6 weeks been rough and tough with withdrswals and startups.

I notice my bp is up too as well.

Thanks!

i suggest stay the course.dont change anything .everthing you are feeling is not a matter of dying it cannot kill you.

Yeah well my family wants me in hospital and i been acting up lois.

Like not doing much and bad migraines too.

I also get strange thoughts and halls.

I just tend to lay around a lot too.

Thanks!

go to the hospital and see what they say gs. if you are really worried talk to crisis I wreckon . just remember zoloft is a slow working SSRI and you wont know if it's right for you until 8 weeks at the earliest.

if you are planning on changing because it sounds like you want too (i say stick with it) go back to the one you recovered on before. celexa wasnt it?

i been reading three months back gs post and he did not seem bad on celexa.gs was more on cue with his post.

hey gs, im not great, had my bloods done today, feeling super drained (still managed 3 walks though) glad to hear you slept a little better, thats good, it will be on and off like that until you settle a little x

i dont think much of what youre feeling is start ups more withdrawal to be honest x

Yeah i understand. I think im hearing things now.

I went to store and felt it too.

Thanks!

hey lois ! i know its just i feel it still.

I feel mood swings today and mind racy.

Sure it can hurt you if you had enough of feeling this dreadful way .

I did go out to gym and then came back moody .

Thanks!

you are getting there gs.if you think you are hearing things?thats a good thing.lol.folks that do hear things dont say i think im hearing things?

Yeah i meant i do hear things lois.

Just struggling with moods and i think i dont like it.

I feel just out of it on this med.

Im not much active.

Thanks!

Hey lois! Yeah celexa was better than zoloft but not that great either.

Thanks!

You know why?

The Doctors are in cahoots with the pharma companies. They probably get a kick back for writing prescriptions to keep quiet on the side effects . They get something.

So they blame the patient.

You think a Doctor said all the side effects anyone would take it.

Its all about the all mighty dollar and not our health and well being.

you are absolutely correct.

Hey lois! Cant sleep so am up and had some crying spells.

Head hurts and just feel weird unsteady.

Thanks!

i feel you buddy.

has anyone ever wokken with a panic attack

i often wake up into a panic attack with my anxiety, this is before medication 😦

ditto.

Hey lois!

I feel overall unwell feeling with heavy head pressure.

I just dont feel right . My thinking seems unclear.

I didnt think i would feel so out of it and uncomfortable.

Thanks!

Hey lois! How you doing ?

All my family is turning on me.

I dont get it at all.

I guess cause im acting up.

Thanks!

Hey toria! My family thinks im of not sound mind .

They think i have impaired thinking and no coping skills.

Thsnks!

go to crisis gs they would have seen it or similar before so will be best to advise.

gs only you know what is best for you, put it this way my anger has been awful the last few days like off the scale awful but i know it will pass as it did last time, for me i know the only thing that will fix me is time x

Yeah i know lois! Its just been hard lois.

I get the effects or whatever and it escalates from there.

I get these weird noise voice in my head too now.

Any advice and low moods.

Thanks!

is it like a crackling noise.?

do you only have angry thoughts or do you act out anger

Lil bit and some voices .

I never have these before lois.

I went to gym and felt very low energy.

I get angry thoughts and get irritable at times.

Im.not sleeping well either.

Thanks!

Hey lois! i was crying tonight and suffering feeling a bit.

I feel the head and trouble sleeping.

This is not going well for me as you know.

Thanks!

both lynn ive gotten better at handling it but its horrendous x

Yout family is probably turning on you because like you say, you keep on texting them your symptoms, your despair and your worries. They probably give you advises and try to help but they feel they cant do much. what do you expect from them? You have to tell them. But its normal for them to that its a lot. They ask you to go in crisis and you dont want because of irrational fears you have from hospitals.

They are right. You have to develop coping skills. You wont be able alone. You need to reach professionnal help. You are not crazy gs. You are just in too much suffering from intense anxiety.

We almost all suggest crisis but you dont. What can we do?

You feel zoloft is not right... Nobody here can give you the exact answer to that. We respond by our experiences and what we think we know.

Of course, we recommand not to play around with too many med changes by refering to our experiences but the best would be to see a professionnal.

But I already told you that....

Yeah i know lolita.

Thank for the help.

I was just wondering what they do for me.

I know just nerves about hospital.

I get b

how are you feeling today gs.

Hey lois! Not that well.

I took klonopin to sleep a bit.

I still feel my head sensations.

Kinda low feelings and just feel still foggy and out of it.

Thanks!

We told you several time what they can do for you.

You wont know if you dont try.

the only thing with crisis hospital is if you complain about how you are feeling they going to either change meds or increase meds.

when you take klonopin do you feel better??

A lil bit for sleep and now wake like foggy and tired and out of it.

Thanks!

Yeah well im gonna complain about how i feeling lois.

I mean what else would i go there for?

Thanks!

well then you gotta go and be ready for whatever they throw at you.

Of course when someones go in crisis he will complains about not feeling good. If not, then he wouldnt go.

And that means taking the risk to have a med change.

I have tried different ad and some never agreed with my system.

That is true that changing too much van cause trouble. With time, I have learned to say no to what some doc would suggest me. Im 9 months in with my med and my psychiatrist suggest add desipramine during summer because Im still tired but its a big no.

But 9 months ago, crisis helped me to be reassure while being redirect on my med. At hospital, I ask for one ad not 2 etc. Even after I got out, I had a long road recovering but crisis helped. And I did group therapy.

Now I give my body time to recover for the past 2 years.

Gs doesnt know where to go or what to do. We told him crisis help for some of us but we also ask him not to change med. So I guess he doesnt know what road to take.

My suggestion wasnt to contradict anyone but just a suggestion.

Xx

Yeah lolita! i dont know what to do is right on.

Im confused and feel worried.

Thanks!

totally agreed with you lolita.i also experience same like you.

Stop asking what to do gs.

A few of us recommanded crisis.

Just go and see.

gs you aren't crazy its withdrawals or start ups the best thing you can do is go and see what they say. it could be the best thing you've done to help yourself.

they aren't gonna lock you up

you need to see someone who deals with what you are going through regularly

we can only advise but if your family want you to go and you dont feel well what do you have to lose.

Yeah i know.

I see what you saying. These meds are why im in crisis.

My in crisis

i had a totally different experience of crisis, i was in a small room waiting for 8 hours when my usual meds were overdue, if i needed the toilet someone had to walk with me and at the end i was just given a benzo which only made me worse as i had steriod induced pychosis which they should of told me would normally pass within 8 or so weeks, instead when i went home i was given med after med all making me worse until i said enough is enough and just sat back and went through withdrawal! and i got better and that is why im coming off cit as i dont believe i should even be on it and think it is causing alot of my symptoms and pain, i dont care how much i go through i want off this med! and i know it helps so many people but unfortunately its the opposite for me and it changed me in a bad way as a person, in my opinion gs and im not a doctor (thank goodness) your symptoms are very similar to mine, i think its withdrawal and its going to take time to settle, but i know youre desperate to feel better, trust me after 2 years of pain i know but their really isnt any magic pill that can quickly take it away, you have nothing to lose by going to crisis as you dont have to take what they give you, its a bloody hard situation, i hate it so much! really hope you improve soon x

Yeah i know toria!

I have constant headache and feels terrible like foggy headed.

Im in pain. I never have this kind of stuff before all the meds.

I feel impatient. I feel like this daily and im losing it in a way.

Its like going through emotional trauma and physical trauma.

I mean i need to go out and do things like i use to.

Im not saying i was perfect before but i wasnt like this with my family constantly up in arms with me.

I feel its changed me to feel and think worst too now.

My anxiety seems decent but the effects are what is getting to me.

Like migraines and feeling like cloudy and apathetic .

I.mean i also feel like i cant see a way forward like this for the first time in my life.

My life isnt perfect but was better lived before these started this year.

I have no.life hardly now

Thanks!

if thats the case for you gs.if your crisis is cause by the meds i would quickly come off them .why suffer.but just expect to feel everything you have been reading about on here or anywhere.i know when i was feeling s****y from med to med there was no one in the world that i would of listen to for comfort.i went with my gut feeling

Yeah well lois i feel terrible now and feel like i cant go on.

I worn out from all this.

I was not the best before meds but am in crisis now due to them .

I feel like so hopeless and feel sick daily.

Im sitting here feeling terrible with a huge headache.

Thanks!

I cant even think straight except to do nothing.

I feel like i cant do much.

I feel like its impair my thinking and judgment.

I mean i wanted to feel better and not worst.

They disable you in a way.

Crisis might come over and i have to chat with them from time to time.

Thanks!

I feel like zoloft is just not right for you.

Thats my feeling.

Because, you said that you did took celexa with good result in the past. So changing med would probably be a good option.

Hey lolita! I read so many bad reviews and now im turned off these drugs.

I read so much bad stuff they can do to you.

I feel terrible for trying these meds they ruining my life.

Im not saying they help people but they hurt people too.

Im just so tired of this is all.

Thanks!

from my experience just because a med worked once doesnt mean it will work again, mirt had me convulsing the third time, you need to settle before coming off slowly or you will just feel worse x

Hey toria! how you doing?

I just feel so unwell toria.

I dont wanna live like this.

I just feeling pain and stuff from these meds.

Thanks!

gs you say your anxiety isn't as bad so that's a good sign maybe you just need to give it longer and wait for the depression to clear up. I would wait for another 2 weeks or so and see if you improve. if you don't then consider your options

if you really cant carry on feeling like you do go and seek professional help like crisis.

i know gs but you didnt feel this bad before meds so you can feel normal again, im not good myself but trying to troop on x

Hey toria! I mean i wasnt to this point .

Im not saying i was perfect but i feel like im losing control because how i feel daily.

Constant symptoms got me like this.

Thanks!

has anything improved from when you first went on them? x

Hey i know. Im not the same person toria.

I feel like im starting to despair and feel like im going crazy.

Im even hitting my head at times which i never done .

I am doing this because im in pain unfortunately.

Thanks!

Hey toria! um not really.

I have less energy now than ever.

I get thoughts and halls.

I dont self care as much as before.

I feel just apathetic and its hard to get through days.

I wanna be able to do things like feeling decent at least.

Thanks!

are you torn between meds or no meds?

because of the side effects.

what does your halls consist of?.mine where flashing lights almost like aura migraines.

Hey i get auditory halls.

Yeah i am torn and wake up crying now.

Thanks!

it sounds like no ssri suits you anymore, i was like that with mirt it helped me so much with depression a few times the third time it was hell! x

i was like that for 8whole months .and four months of the guinea pig stage.so one whole year of hell.mind you i had relief from mu initial l anxiety symptoms that is why i preservere.

Yeah lois i understand!

I hear ya! i wanna just enjoy life is all .

I wanna workout and stuff and work and go back to living.

I just feel disabled today .

Thanks!

perhaps tomorrow will be a different day for you on the positive side .

You know lois im single and never married.

I have a history of anxiety but never to the point im at now.

I was on med before and it helped a bit.

I went off of it unfortunately.

This year i moved and went on meds so everything change with meds now.

ok so the side effects are Obviously giving you drama.but they will subside and if when they do i suggest you stay the course .me for one is the type of person that has to depend on these meds for ever .its just like with any other illness .if it aint broke dont fix it.alot of people change meds because of the side effects some of these meds cause.i change four meds in four months.because i was s**t scare of the side effects . but if i have known that the side efects would subside i would of stay the course with the first med.

hey gs lois is right. let's say one more week and see how you feel? can you hold on for one more week and see what happens?

if it's a little better add another week on and see what happens then. I reckon between 6-8weeks you'll know what your decision should be. x keep hanging in there x

Gs only tried 2 ssri so I guess saying no one suits him is a bit extreme.

Why no med would not fit?

We just cant say that to him.

totally agreed with you lolita.

because he sounds sensitive to ssri,s but hey i could be wrong, bit strange how he is only getting worse dont you think and any changes only make things worse!

Hey toria! how you?

I just feel off today.

I feel my head and i also get halls.

Thanks!

if it was a matter of sensitivity gs you would of had that issue with your first ssri.you are having with drawls with some start ups.and your ocd and health anxiety is letting you have it.but it will all subside .its just a matter of waiting .

Hey lois! i understand that im just crying and feeling weepy and just feel unwell.

Thanks!

does anyone ever get chest tightness with anxiety. yesterday i felt good

and if i was you i be taking my klonopin left and right .i would not be suffering when you have klonopin for relief of any kind.

Yeah i know lois!

I feel more low than anything .

I get these halls and thoughts.

Thanks!

well if you know!take action gs.klonopin will calm your nervous system .dont be a fool.worry about the what ifs at a later date.

Hey lois! i feel so low though.

Its anxiety in the back .

Im suffering but more low like.

I cant go on like this lois!

I feel more low and klonopin more for anxiety .

Thanks!

low as in tired?

Hey low as in low mood and feel weird.

Im feeling awful wired with low mood and just sick.

that is definitely start ups.so the klonopin makes you more low mood when you take it.why cant you ask your doctor to give you xanex instead.valium did nothing for my anxiety and xanex did.

Yeah i notice i take it gets a bit low mood.

I was still feeling it now lois.

It feels like a trippin stuff.

Thanks!

thats because klonopin is long lasting while the xanex has a short life n quick response.

Yeah i know.

I feel terrible and family wants to call 911..

Thanks!

why do they want to call 911.

Like I told you, they want to help you.

They suggest you options like crisis, therapy etc and you dont do because you are scared.

As a family, they just can't watch you not doing well and take action. So they probably want to do it for you.

Hey lolita! How are you?

I just getting auditory halls and stuff.

Im nervous with hospital for this stuff.

Thanks!

Im good!

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But I think your family wants to be reassure and so do you.

So, you have to do something gs and stop the fears and the what if, etc... just like lois and potato told you.

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You need to check with your doctor or hospital because you keep on complaining on your situation and bad symptoms and you dont take action for your recovery. If I would be your family, I would be also worry like them. They want you to recover because they care.

That was the readon why I cgeck in for crisis. I didnt like feeling horrible and see my family looking at me not beeing able to help. That was my motivation to take action.

Hey lois! i still feel it today a bit.

I think the side effects got me like this.

I feel tired again but like out of it.

Im resting now and do still get stuff laying here.

Thanks!

the only thing i can say is i felt the same.so plow on gs.

Yeah i know but its very hard at times in life.

Its like my mind goes where i dont want it to go .

I feel very cloudy and like i said i feel like im going crazy with all this madness.

I dont think my family will let me go on like this and i live with cousin and he doesnt wanna see me this way.

I also hear things which is very worrisome to me and my family doesnt know what to think.

I tend to like cry a bit at times feeling like this too.

Thanks!

oh its great to hear you live with some one .we all thought you lived alone.your side effects will subside .i totally understand what you are going thru .and because it happened to me iam able to Sympathize with you.i also thought i was going to stay with all the madness your Referring to .but guess what it all subsided.my family n friends where also worried n they felt really sorry for me.some understood some did not.

Well he works 12 hour days and im.alone not working .

I just feel things that have hard time dealing with sums it up lois.

Im scared of myself if that makes any sense.

Im scared of the halls and thoughts and just feeling sick .

Thanks!

I also confused on my med situation as well.

I feel like my mind is going 24 7 and that not good.

Emotional trauma .

Thanks!

every one is so different .i dont know maybe you need more seratonin.

Hey lois i get these scary thoughts about stuff and halls are there as well.

I dont get it lois it seems like im trapped in my own mind of stuff.

Thanks!

its the meds gs.either from withdrwals or the sert.is magnifying your underlying anxiety or both .i say both .because i experience it

Hey lois! How are you?

They wanna dc my med lois.

Said im getting bad thoughts of harming myself.

Thanks!

i say go for it.dont suffer .as long as with your doctors orders.good luck always here for support.

its withdrawal and start ups its not going to be nice x

Toria, I know you live withdrawal and lived hell but saying to him it not gooing to be nice etc.. I mean, the poor guy is scare and traumatise. He needs encouragements. Not saying to him that he will be living hell.

I have experienced med changed that was okay past the side effects.

And maybe he needs to decrease or even increase.

Seeing a doctor and doing whatever is suggested to him under medical advises. But we just cant tell him things that wont encourage him.

but if you are having harming thoughts possibly due to the sert.i say decrease .just be cautious .

i havent once said it wont get better, it will but it takes time their is no magic bullet to stop this 😃

I understand that maybe you didnt said that. But always saying how bad it is and will be doesnt encourage.

Hey lois! Everyone wants to dc zoloft because of thought and voices .

They wanna try lexapro now.

Im just scared of this and how i feel daily.

Im very confused too.

Thanks!

i dont i simply say ive had or am having the same! id rather other people say they have been through the same to give me comfort than think it was just me, im just concerned all these changes will make a bad situation worse but hey will butt out x

lexapro is the celexa cousin.do whats best.are you swapping ?hopefully you are not swapping but decreasing one while introducing the new one.

I take lexapro gs. This med is almost the only one that really helps me.

That can be a good option